Men violently preventing women from congregating, communicating and networking, is what the Taliban do. Why is it happening in the UK?

Are some people seriously making the argument that Brighton belongs to the TRAs and any women who dare to express reality in Brighton are fair game targets for window smashing bullies?

There's a phrase about leopards and faces that fits here.

Are some people seriously making the argument that Brighton belongs to the TRAs and any women who dare to express reality in Brighton are fair game targets for window smashing bullies?

There's a phrase about leopards and faces that fits here.

Are some people seriously making the argument that Brighton belongs to the TRAs and any women who dare to express reality in Brighton are fair game targets for window smashing bullies?

There's a phrase about leopards and faces that fits here.

I agree, and wonder if the EHRC guidance with the inevitable backlash from transactivists will change anything.

Like if this Bashback gang bricked Keir Starmer's windows, would he say anything about it.

Exactly. Even the violent aggressive males attacking women is unfortunately not all that surprising - what's noteworthy and appalling is Sian Berry suggesting women are not free to meet and discuss women's rights in certain places in the UK. She seems to suggest she attempted to intervene with the booking - if true, this could lay her open to legal action.

Agreed, but they need to do better.

Much stronger leadership is required to make it 100% clear everybody needs to obey the law, no excuses.

I think Labour leadership are hoping this issue will go away quietly through the actions of others, like the SC and the NHS, because if it came to a vote it would tear their party apart. Plus they're aware from polling that the electorate mostly doesn't believe in "her penis" ideology.

So we agree, I didn't say that you - or anyone for that matter - were supposed to be listening to anything.

To be clear - Angry people break stuff when they're not being listened to. The people this particular bunch are angry about popped up in their back yard, so they went and broke their stuff. It's not that deep.

Everything else - that you are supposed to be listening to them, that they're 'justified' in their criminal damage - these are things you appear to have up. Nobody in this thread has suggested them, except you.

It is a left problem though, no point in denying that.

The communist party is extremely niche, though good for them for standing up for their principles.

Labour has been TWAW until very recently and are still dragging their heels. Only a handful of politicians are properly standing against it. They've had to respond to Cass/SC judgement, it hasn't been an organic change.

All the other left leaning parties are firmly on the side of gender woo and against women. As are the Dems in the US.

There should be be no where off limits to women

that was kind of the starting point of feminism

men objected then too

The Sian Berry tweet and these posts are very much ‘look what you made me do’ on behalf of violent men.

Any idea what the reasons are then?

To be angry about a group of women talking to each other?

I can't get me head around what looks like this newish (to me) trans (incel ?) movement.

Looking at the men in a series of different demonstrations worldwide they are not 'even' really trying to look like modern girls or women. I'm not sure how this really fits in.

Finding it hard to explain. Especially when it touches on matters of stereotypical dress. It's very true that real women adopt a wide variety of dress.

The boys and men at these protests in different locations look like youths dressed in plain black or in grunge (but nothing like the girls i know who dress like thar look like).

It's like a weird parody of 'i want to be a woman but an incredibly 'ugly' or not feminine woman' and i don't care'.

The opposite to the earlier stereotypical ultra feminine drag type of trans identifying man.

It's a 'i want to be a woman but not look in the mirror' or care what i wear or look like.

They seem to say 'I don't even want to try and look beautiful'. I want to be a woman and reject being 'feminine' as that revolts me'. It's a type of feminine hatred.

There is something more misogynist going on with these particular trans identifying men. That is why I am thinking that if is a type of trans incel movement.

I probably didn't explain this very well.

A feminist conference is not trans women’s backyard.

Brighton, basically the UK's capital of inclusivity, is their 'backyard'. It's the equivalent of holding a Ranger's fan club meeting in the carpark of Celtic's ground.

It is about women and for women. Nothing to do with men identifying as women. If they want to be represented and to be heard, they have to organise their own conference.

I agree. But the way protesting works is that those who don't agree try to disrupt the thing they don't agree with.

So no, they have no reason to be angry.

Who are you (or any of us) to decide what people should or shouldn't get angry about? They quite obviously do have their reasons, you just don't agree with them.

I can't get me head around what looks like this newish (to me) trans (incel ?) movement.

Looking at the men in a series of different demonstrations worldwide they are not 'even' really trying to look like modern girls or women. I'm not sure how this really fits in.

Finding it hard to explain. Especially when it touches on matters of stereotypical dress. It's very true that real women adopt a wide variety of dress.

The boys and men at these protests in different locations look like youths dressed in plain black or in grunge (but nothing like the girls i know who dress like thar look like).

It's like a weird parody of 'i want to be a woman but an incredibly 'ugly' or not feminine woman' and i don't care'.

The opposite to the earlier stereotypical ultra feminine drag type of trans identifying man.

It's a 'i want to be a woman but not look in the mirror' or care what i wear or look like.

They seem to say 'I don't even want to try and look beautiful'. I want to be a woman and reject being 'feminine' as that revolts me'. It's a type of feminine hatred.

There is something more misogynist going on with these particular trans identifying men. That is why I am thinking that if is a type of trans incel movement.

I probably didn't explain this very well.

Nothing silly about wanting to vote for a party that represents 51% of the population properly.
I don't want to be forced to vote Right just because they know basic biology and don't pander to violence.

Property is respected more than women, is how that looks.