Men violently preventing women from congregating, communicating and networking, is what the Taliban do. Why is it happening in the UK?

What 'rights' are these men fighting for?

You know exactly what they want, why are you asking questions you already know the answer to?

And are you going answer my earlier question about what makes them so 'upset' about women upholding their legal rights to single sex spaces?

I didn't see your question. But if you can't figure it out for yourself, why don't you ask one of them? I'm not sure why you think I'd have any greater insight into than you, but it's hardly rocket science that people get upset when they're told that they can't have the things that they want, is it?

Exactly, despite all the desperate minimising the pp knows this.

Through violence. Women are pushing back and we had the marvellous FWS singing after the SC win.

We say no, use words and actions as FWS do and men use threats and actual violence. Your posts still sound like ‘look at what you made me do’.

Their violence is part of why we are pushing back.

Favouring violence and intimidation as a method to try to achieve their goals is militant.

Still men. Still men following the tactics of the fascists and the Taliban by using violence to stop people speaking. What is the difference between this group and the brown shirts of 1930’s Germany?

They come across like a bunch of angry student 'anarchists'.

I'm not sure how you're getting militant from a 'statement' that looks like it's been knocked up on Microsoft Paint and their absolute failure to disrupt a conference.

The public at large don’t agree with them because their ideology is absurd, but public services and organisations, like Sussex Police, Brighton and Hove Council, the local MPs do.

They had the entire Scottish government behind them and many high-profile NGOs.

What 'rights' are these men fighting for?

And are you going answer my earlier question about what makes them so 'upset' about women upholding their legal rights to single sex spaces?

They have plenty of resources and support. Gender critical feminists are the underdog here.

Men are not a minority. These are men.

I agree that they're men. But it's not 'men' that are fighting for trans rights is it? It's a tiny, tiny subsection of men who are trans. They have less public support, less resources and they started on the back foot. They are absolutely the minority in this scenario.

Thread about the militant TRA group responsible https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5425523-welcome-to-a-new-era-of-trans-rage?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=app_share

in a few cases physically assaulted by these men

Can to link me to any details of this? I'm not saying I don't believe you, I just find it unlikely that police would have ignored a direct assault.

To be completely honest I'm not holding out much hope for any arrests even with these men doing yet more property damage.

If they can identify them they'll arrest them. It'll likely come down to CCTV though, or a fall-out in the group and someone grassing them in. If people feel strongly about it they should write to their local MP, who may be able to put pressure on the police if there's enough support.

How far would FWS have got in their aims if they'd decided to vandalise MPs' offices and brick the windows of trans conferences instead of making their case politically and legally?

Yanbu

Men are not a minority. These are men.

There is no comparison with what these violent trans activist men have been doing for the last 20 years with what women have had to go through over the last 100 years.

There is the right to peaceful protest, then there is the violent actions of trans activist men.

This behaviour is an escalation in the continuing harassment of women.

It's not even really protest to my mind, it's just misogyny, now with criminal property damage.

It's really sad that a number of us expect the police to finally do something about broken glass when they have repeatedly failed to act on behalf of the actual women who have been targeted and in a few cases physically assaulted by these men. To be completely honest I'm not holding out much hope for any arrests even with these men doing yet more property damage. The police seem totally captured still.

They’ll tell themselves the men are sad, vulnerable outliers who have been led to this through longtime oppression 🥱

Indeed.

Its quite hard to quantify how many women have NOT gone to meetings because of fear of transactivists, because of their aggressive, intimidatory and harassing tactics, but I'd wager that number is fairly high.

These men (by which I mean the group of men who are militant trans rights activists, not just the men in Brighton) are “violently preventing women from congregating, communicating and networking” which is the comparison being made here. Pp has repeatedly minimised this.

Good for you. You’re as entitled to your view as anyone else. But you have absolutely minimised what’s happened to women due to this absurd ideology.

So what do you think the TRAs find so 'upsetting' about women standing up for their rights to their own spaces, as per the law?

No, I haven't. Saying that smashing windows isn't comparable with the atrocities of the Taliban is not minimizing.

Nobody was hurt, this is a fact. The conference went ahead exactly as planned, this is a fact. Nobody was prevented from speaking, this is a fact. You're free to pretend that's comparable to the Taliban's playbook if you like, but I'm not going along with it.

It's not usually the massive majority that has to resort to protesting/direct action to get their voices heard.

Women have of course done so throughout history when fighting for their rights/beliefs.