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Men violently preventing women from congregating, communicating and networking, is what the Taliban do. Why is it happening in the UK?

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/10/2025 12:27

The FiLiA Women's Liberation Conference was targeted overnight, the attackers even live tweeted the violence.

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/25532194.live-brighton-centre-vandalised-feminist-conference-begins/

Local politicians are so far silent.

This is literally terrorism, using fear and violence to shut down legitimate peaceful discussions.

Video of the incident: https://x.com/TransBashBack/status/1976555969439223934

Live: Venue vandalised and protesters demonstrate at feminist conference

The Brighton Centre has been vandalised as a feminist conference begins there today.

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/25532194.live-brighton-centre-vandalised-feminist-conference-begins/

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ArabellaSaurus · 17/10/2025 07:55

Excellent, thank you.

'In an increasingly polarised world, women are being squeezed by misogynistic forces from both right and left.'

TheaBrandt1 · 17/10/2025 07:32

She’s consistently good on this

eatfigs · 17/10/2025 07:29

whynot90 · 16/10/2025 17:44

Great column in the Times by Sonia Sodha
Trans protests are a fight feminists could do without

https://www.thetimes.com/article/8f93675b-a6c2-44de-b125-f0fb51203021?shareToken=a3d85e963244658c950e7bd23a59dab3

Excellent piece, thanks for sharing.

Whatifitallgoesright · 16/10/2025 17:17

Kimura · 12/10/2025 10:18

You seem obsessed. I haven't even looked at your username. Are you keeping notes or did you just go back through 15 pages for all that?

Ha ha, accusations of obsession! That can be added to the excellent round-up you were responding to. Are we obsessed with genitals too? 🤣

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 12/10/2025 19:56

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 12/10/2025 19:46

The group is/was called Palestine Action.
It was 'proscribed' (labelled a 'terrorist' organisation) following concerted lobbying by Friends of Israel, arms companies and others. They were never convicted in court for anything that any normal person would consider terrorism.

Pretty much all of their actions involved direct action (such as property damage) at arms factories and other sites where arms systems companies operated. They often carried tools (incl axes and sledgehammers) for use in these actions. (A bit like the suffragettes who carried and used hammers and axes... )They were very effective at shutting down arms factories and physically blocking the production of weapons for a period of time.

There have been a number of incidents where the police claimed to have been 'assaulted' by members of the group, including one situation where they alleged that an activist had attacked an officer with a sledgehammer (not an axe), and told the media she'd been 'hospitalised'. Later on they changed their story and said these alleged injuries "were not serious".

None of these alleged 'assaults' led to anyone actually being convicted of assault (suggesting that there wasn't any actual evidence and the police may well have made up the story) although I think a few activists accepted a caution so those cases never made it to court.

There are many many more occasions when the police have used extreme violence against Palestine Action and people associated with them, such as the protestors who were badly beaten in Govan, Glasgow last year.

I think Palestine Action are terrorists - for one simple fact, they broke into an RAF base and damaged RAF planes.

Like it or not, we sleep soundly in our beds because well trained people walk the night ready to do violence upon those who would harm us. The RAF is made up entirely by those people.

I support them entirely.

But this is very much NOT the point of this thread. Go start your own.

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LooseCanyon · 12/10/2025 19:56

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 12/10/2025 19:46

The group is/was called Palestine Action.
It was 'proscribed' (labelled a 'terrorist' organisation) following concerted lobbying by Friends of Israel, arms companies and others. They were never convicted in court for anything that any normal person would consider terrorism.

Pretty much all of their actions involved direct action (such as property damage) at arms factories and other sites where arms systems companies operated. They often carried tools (incl axes and sledgehammers) for use in these actions. (A bit like the suffragettes who carried and used hammers and axes... )They were very effective at shutting down arms factories and physically blocking the production of weapons for a period of time.

There have been a number of incidents where the police claimed to have been 'assaulted' by members of the group, including one situation where they alleged that an activist had attacked an officer with a sledgehammer (not an axe), and told the media she'd been 'hospitalised'. Later on they changed their story and said these alleged injuries "were not serious".

None of these alleged 'assaults' led to anyone actually being convicted of assault (suggesting that there wasn't any actual evidence and the police may well have made up the story) although I think a few activists accepted a caution so those cases never made it to court.

There are many many more occasions when the police have used extreme violence against Palestine Action and people associated with them, such as the protestors who were badly beaten in Govan, Glasgow last year.

It's not just that. It's who they're backed by.

But we don't need this thread to be sidetracked by that discussion.

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 12/10/2025 19:46

Bigpinksweater · 12/10/2025 16:45

They attacked a police officer with an axe, IIRC

The group is/was called Palestine Action.
It was 'proscribed' (labelled a 'terrorist' organisation) following concerted lobbying by Friends of Israel, arms companies and others. They were never convicted in court for anything that any normal person would consider terrorism.

Pretty much all of their actions involved direct action (such as property damage) at arms factories and other sites where arms systems companies operated. They often carried tools (incl axes and sledgehammers) for use in these actions. (A bit like the suffragettes who carried and used hammers and axes... )They were very effective at shutting down arms factories and physically blocking the production of weapons for a period of time.

There have been a number of incidents where the police claimed to have been 'assaulted' by members of the group, including one situation where they alleged that an activist had attacked an officer with a sledgehammer (not an axe), and told the media she'd been 'hospitalised'. Later on they changed their story and said these alleged injuries "were not serious".

None of these alleged 'assaults' led to anyone actually being convicted of assault (suggesting that there wasn't any actual evidence and the police may well have made up the story) although I think a few activists accepted a caution so those cases never made it to court.

There are many many more occasions when the police have used extreme violence against Palestine Action and people associated with them, such as the protestors who were badly beaten in Govan, Glasgow last year.

SinnerBoy · 12/10/2025 19:19

Same here...

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/10/2025 19:04

Your link goes to MI5 for me 😂

Onlytruthfulhere · 12/10/2025 18:24

miraxxx · 11/10/2025 10:02

The incel to trans pipeline is obvious to me. Nerds, neuro-divergent types with poor social skills and deep into their internet wormholes with porn addiction bringing up the rear. Many are gamer types. The internet also allows them to find their kind and affirm one another in their lunacy.

Yes spot on

ArabellaSaurus · 12/10/2025 18:22

By the by:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13581155/boy-12-is-referred-to-counter-extremist-prevent-officers-by-his-own-school-after-declaring-there-are-only-two-genders-and-im-gay-not-queer.html

'A 12-year-old schoolboy has been investigated by counter-extremism officers after he declared there 'are only two genders'.
The child made a video, posted online, in which he also stated: 'There's no such thing as non-binary'.
And in response to school bullies who mistakenly believed he supported transgender ideology, he said: '[I'm] gay not queer.'
...
But the school told the boy's mother they would refer him to Prevent'

Prevent investigates boy, 12, for saying there 'are only two genders'

A 12-year-old schoolboy has been investigated by counter-extremism officers after he declared there 'are only two genders' and 'there's no such thing as non-binary'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13581155/boy-12-is-referred-to-counter-extremist-prevent-officers-by-his-own-school-after-declaring-there-are-only-two-genders-and-im-gay-not-queer.html

ArabellaSaurus · 12/10/2025 18:19

lcakethereforeIam · 12/10/2025 17:53

They probably film the attendees too. Dox them to their employers if they can id them.

Yes, there's footage of them filming women attending.

ArabellaSaurus · 12/10/2025 18:19

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/10/2025 16:23

Damage to property is literally covered under the Terrorism Act 2000, rightly or wrongly. So in the UK this could be considered a terrorist act.

'In this Act “terrorism” means the use or threat of action where—

(a)the action falls within subsection (2),

(b)the use or threat is designed to influence the government [F1or an international governmental organisation] or to intimidate the public or a section of the public, and

(c)the use or threat is made for the purpose of advancing a political, religious [F2, racial] or ideological cause.'

(2)Action falls within this subsection if it—

(a)involves serious violence against a person,

(b)involves serious damage to property,

(c)endangers a person’s life, other than that of the person committing the action,

(d)creates a serious risk to the health or safety of the public or a section of the public, or

(e)is designed seriously to interfere with or seriously to disrupt an electronic system.'

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/11/section/1

(My bold).

Terrorism Act 2000

An Act to make provision about terrorism; and to make temporary provision for Northern Ireland about the prosecution and punishment of certain offences, the preservation of peace and the maintenance of order.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/11/section/1

SinnerBoy · 12/10/2025 17:56

LooseCanyon · 12/10/2025 17:22

They're not obtuse. They know what they're saying.

You may well be right, sadly.

lcakethereforeIam · 12/10/2025 17:53

They probably film the attendees too. Dox them to their employers if they can id them.

Artmumcreative · 12/10/2025 17:49

dudsville · 10/10/2025 17:26

It's such a powerful behavioural display. I'm easily shaken. I've not been around much violence. I'd really enjoy a feminist conference but violent acts like these frighten me and keep me away. It is a powerful form of control.

Yes! This is exactly it! I'd love to attend a feminist conference but I now don't feel I can because a protester might harm me. FWIW I have one closer friend who's a transwoman so I never saw them as a potential threat until I realised I can't go to conferences like FILIA, as a woman, safely.

spannasaurus · 12/10/2025 17:47

It's also being used to intimidate venue owners to not hire their venues to womens groups

LooseCanyon · 12/10/2025 17:22

SinnerBoy · 12/10/2025 17:14

Agreed, I find it difficult to comprehend the obtuseness of some people.

They're not obtuse. They know what they're saying.

SinnerBoy · 12/10/2025 17:14

Agreed, I find it difficult to comprehend the obtuseness of some people.

ArabellaSaurus · 12/10/2025 17:10

SinnerBoy · 12/10/2025 16:26

It's not simply the vandalism, it's the threats and violence employed, to try and force women to acquiesce to their stated, illegal aims.

Absolutely this. It's a violent act, intended to terrorise and strike fear into the women about to attend the building. That's very obvious.

Namelessnelly · 12/10/2025 16:49

Bigpinksweater · 12/10/2025 16:45

They attacked a police officer with an axe, IIRC

Not when they were damaging the planes. So if they are terrorists, so must this group be.

Bigpinksweater · 12/10/2025 16:45

Namelessnelly · 12/10/2025 16:30

Hold on, weren’t freedom for Palestine or whatever convicted of terriridm and callled a terririst group even though no one was hurt?

They attacked a police officer with an axe, IIRC

Namelessnelly · 12/10/2025 16:30

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/10/2025 16:23

Damage to property is literally covered under the Terrorism Act 2000, rightly or wrongly. So in the UK this could be considered a terrorist act.

Hold on, weren’t freedom for Palestine or whatever convicted of terriridm and callled a terririst group even though no one was hurt?