To wonder why so many pensioners are supporting Palestine Action, even willing to risk prison for it ?

Are you disagreeing that there is any antisemitism on these marches or support for Hamas?

Disagreeing with the actions of the state of Israel is not anti semitism. Plenty of Jewish people are horrified at what is happening in Gaza just as plenty of Palestinians are horrified at the abhorrent actions of Hamas

They have the time to protest because they are retired and don’t have young children. They spend a lot of time online and listening to/watching the news and get fired up.

Agree

spoonbillstretford · Today 04:06

"I would not trust an element on the marches not to be violent and/or anti-semitic. To me the marches are stoking division and hatred not promoting peace. Plus I don't support terrorist organisations"

And does your comment apply to the many Jewish people on the marches as well?

It's being challenged in the courts. Do you not believe in legal processes?

It did happen for those actions.

Lots of older people were active when younger. Anti- Vietnam War, pro-CND, Greenham Common, Miners'Strike, anti-Iraq War... Many are also active with Greenpeace and subsequently XR...

Our generations hoped for a better future then. Now that we no longer have careers etc to worry about, we have the time to protest. And yes, the wisdom to recognise when a rule should be challenged.

No, I’m not going to bother. Everyone can see what is going on- relentless bot flooding on agreed attack lines. It’s so obvious and so boring, not even subtle.

Me too!

Report what you like since you've helpfully repeated what I said!

This!

Including your own lines.

The proscription of Palestine Action as a terrorist group is nothing like a concentration camp. You appear to be mixing up your causes.

Apologise for what? Are you going to apologise for saying you don't condemn Hamas and 7th October? Wonder why your post was rightfully deleted?

My parents remember the second world war. They saw the images of concentration camps. Its hitting close to that

I'm really not sure. My mother, who is pretty left wing, thinks they are idiotic. I do as well. While I certainly don't condone all of Israel's actions, I do get annoyed with the Free Palestine movement: not just PA but the whole 'globalise the infitada' nonsense. It's omnicause bullshit and the people marching don't have a clue.

What on earth? Are you actually blaming the UN for not distributing aid? Have you even read the articles you have linked to?

Or are you being sarcastic?

I have never reported a post but I will report yours for blatantly lying. Ironically, people just need to read the links you posted to understand you are lying but some won't. So even if you are actually being sarcastic I think it will be lost on too many people.

The proscription of Palestine Action is being appealed in the courts so I've no idea why they would protest instead of letting the legal process take its course.

I suspect they don't actually know what they are protesting about. Interviews in the Guardian with some of those arrested talked about genocide in Gaza - which is fine, but the aren't protesting about genocide in Gaza, they are protesting about a group in the UK who have been proscribed in the UK for actions taken in the UK.

One of those arrested turned up on my thread about this to claim that the military planes that were damaged by Palestine Action were used to refuel Israeli bombers which is demonstrably false as they use different refueling systems. He also appeared to think that it was ok that Palestine Action put a police officer in hospital if it could be argued that they didn't use a sledgehammer to do it.

Palestine Action have a training manual and list targets that include other RAF bases. The slogan 'I support Palestine Action' means 'I support further attacks on the UK military at a time when we are essentially at war with Russia'. This is something that if it were foreigners were doing would be a huge concern for UK citizens.

So I think the pensioners being arrested are either stupid, or haven't actually done their research.

Apparently the majority of people who voted for Brexit were pensioners/ older people. Which doesn't says a lot of their "wisdom".

You also have to remember that a lot of these protesters are 60s type lefties, in love with Lenin, anti authority etc - and just a touch antisemitic.

I'd be willing to listen. What would they say if I asked why they don't support a non proscribed pro gaza group instead?

There’s no fool like an old fool!

Old enough to know better?

Good grief, OP, how patronising are you?

You are being unreasonable. If you listened to what these protesters are saying, you would understand perfectly.

Do you expect pensioners to just stay at home knitting or watching soaps?

How patronising.

Today's pensioners would have been involved in protests as students and beyond and continued with their activism through life.

Also as pensioners I assume they have long run out of fucks to give and don't need to worry about getting a criminal record that might affect their work life.

I think they are amazing! It is important to support freedom of speech and the right to protest in this country.

It is not supporting Palestine so much as anti semitism and the desire to disrupt.