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To wonder why so many pensioners are supporting Palestine Action, even willing to risk prison for it ?

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PrincessSophieFrederike · 10/10/2025 02:42

Palestine Action showed their true colours a long time ago. I strongly oppose a lot of Netanyahu's actions- I don't object to a protest for the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. That wasn't Palestine Action's agenda, though.

I would've thought people 60+ would have, on average, accumulated more wisdom. Young people have often been swept up into radical movements with dangerous agendas (look at 60s protestors who thought Castro & co.were nice etc). It's no excuse..but is a BIT easier to see why young people (student age) might fall for this kind of stuff. Also people now seem to have less media literacy, esp SM.

But why are 60+ year olds getting caught up in it?? Willing to go to prison? What is going on? This hasn't happened before with stuff like BLM or Extinction Rebellion, so what us going on now?

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Plantatreetoday · 11/10/2025 19:44

PrincessSophieFrederike · 11/10/2025 19:35

Thank you! Shocking to see people missing tye glaringly obvious point.

And yet the post actually misses the glaringly obvious point that the protests are about Free Speech

after so many pages of this enough people have corrected the wrong thinking of others.

PrincessSophieFrederike · 11/10/2025 19:35

TeenagersAngst · 11/10/2025 07:31

But that’s not what they’re protesting. They’re protesting in support of a pro-Hamas terrorist organisation. And Hamas surely take some responsibility for the deaths of innocent Gazans since 7 Oct.

As PP have said, they could easily march in support of Palestinians affected by war but that’s not what they are doing- or maybe they mistakenly think they are, hence the phrase ‘useful idiots’.

Thank you! Shocking to see people missing tye glaringly obvious point.

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RedAdmirals · 11/10/2025 19:31

Doodlingsquares · 11/10/2025 19:17

Not at all. I didnt even mention the marches. Merely said disagreeing with the actions of the state of Israel is not anti semitism.
I am not denying that anti semitism absolutely exists.

I saw some film footage of the marches and there were some strange banners/placards.
One was a "ban the bomb" symbol.
Another said "One state, Palestine !" - that protestor doesn't seem to want a two-state solution.
"Globalise the intafada"- don't like the sound of that.
Other placards stated: "Starmer has blood on his hands, free Palestine". - which seems a bit odd when Starmer has said he recognised the state of Palestine.

I'm beginning to think these protesters are just a load of bored oiks who just like protesting.

Doodlingsquares · 11/10/2025 19:17

noblegiraffe · 10/10/2025 12:19

Are you disagreeing that there is any antisemitism on these marches or support for Hamas?

Not at all. I didnt even mention the marches. Merely said disagreeing with the actions of the state of Israel is not anti semitism.
I am not denying that anti semitism absolutely exists.

Cleikumstovies · 11/10/2025 19:12

Now there is a ceasefire and a possiblity of progression will Palestine supporters be volunteering t to go and rebuild the territory? Skilled and educated people will.be needed.

Or will professional.protestors and agitations more to the next virtue signalling cause?

RedAdmirals · 11/10/2025 18:48

BitOutOfPractice · 11/10/2025 18:40

The point of this thread wasn’t even about Palestine. It was about why older people care. And I say, regardless of your opinions, thank goodness someone does. This is a generation of protesters. I certainly spent my teens and twenties Protesting in the 80s and 90s and I still really care now. Why wouldn’t it? I’m not dead yet.

I'm glad you had the time/energy/money to indulge your hobby.

Me, I was was working and contributing to society, by paying taxes to fund the police force(s) to deal with the likes of you.

BitOutOfPractice · 11/10/2025 18:40

The point of this thread wasn’t even about Palestine. It was about why older people care. And I say, regardless of your opinions, thank goodness someone does. This is a generation of protesters. I certainly spent my teens and twenties Protesting in the 80s and 90s and I still really care now. Why wouldn’t it? I’m not dead yet.

RedAdmirals · 11/10/2025 18:30

Plantatreetoday · 11/10/2025 18:26

If you are unaware of the situation re PA designation then I advice you check out the news rather than mumsnet

If you are unaware of the concerns re the ceasefire then I also suggest you look up analysis by professionals in the field rather than mumsnet

If you’re really that interested you’d read around the subject.

Im not biting 😆

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So why not wait for the court ruling?

I am still amazed that people think that parading through London with silly banners/ placards stopping people doing their shopping etc will affect a conflict 2,000+ miles away.

Plantatreetoday · 11/10/2025 18:26

RedAdmirals · 11/10/2025 18:22

Why ?

If you are unaware of the situation re PA designation then I advice you check out the news rather than mumsnet

If you are unaware of the concerns re the ceasefire then I also suggest you look up analysis by professionals in the field rather than mumsnet

If you’re really that interested you’d read around the subject.

Im not biting 😆

RedAdmirals · 11/10/2025 18:22

Plantatreetoday · 11/10/2025 18:21

I think it’s important to keep it up. It’s early days

Why ?

Plantatreetoday · 11/10/2025 18:21

RedAdmirals · 11/10/2025 17:53

But it negates the need to protest.

I think it’s important to keep it up. It’s early days

noblegiraffe · 11/10/2025 18:20

Unless you were never marching for peace between Israel and Palestine in the first place.

RedAdmirals · 11/10/2025 17:53

Plantatreetoday · 11/10/2025 17:51

The ceasefire doesn't negate the genocide obviously

just because something has stopped does not mean it’s no longer a reality and no longer relevant

But it negates the need to protest.

Plantatreetoday · 11/10/2025 17:51

RedAdmirals · 11/10/2025 17:48

@HarrietPierce "The protests re the pensioners involvement refer to the Gaza genocide in which the British Government is complicit "

Err no.

There is a ceasefire now.

Did you miss that?

Sadly the other conflicts are continuing.

The ceasefire doesn't negate the genocide obviously

just because something has stopped does not mean it’s no longer a reality and no longer relevant

RedAdmirals · 11/10/2025 17:48

@HarrietPierce "The protests re the pensioners involvement refer to the Gaza genocide in which the British Government is complicit "

Err no.

There is a ceasefire now.

Did you miss that?

Sadly the other conflicts are continuing.

sabababa · 11/10/2025 15:10

JacknDiane · 11/10/2025 10:10

Watch you trying to spin the narrative?

Watch you trying to rewrite tbe narrative.

Honestly, your sneering and patronising posts are really quite tiresome

SerendipityJane · 11/10/2025 14:39

oddly enough Lebanon isn't mentioned.

Not one of the Human Leagues better tunes, that's why.

sabababa · 11/10/2025 14:12

Thegreyhound · 11/10/2025 13:19

Well according to you I wouldn’t be Jewish enough

Jewish enough for what? Im very confused as to what you are taking issue with. It's simply a statement of fact.

And I know for a fact that the vast majority of British Jews (people who identify as such in surveys rather than those who suddenly recall a grandparent might have been Jewish as it fits their agenda) are zionist.

RedAdmirals · 11/10/2025 13:40

JacknDiane · 10/10/2025 16:19

The sneering and patronising comments from pro Israel posters on this board are getting tiresome.

Maybe if people stopped killing Jews you wouldn't have to read them ? 🙄

RedAdmirals · 11/10/2025 13:29

HarrietPierce · 11/10/2025 12:25

RedAdmirals · Today 08:38

HarrietPierce · Yesterday 16:55
RedAdmirals ·
"They must be short of daytime soaps to watch "
No they are just against genocide.
What genocide ?

Well the genocide perpetrated by Israel against the Palestinians. But if they haven't genocided enough for you, Israel have resumed bombing Lebanon.

There are genocides being waged all over the world apparently.

What qualifies any conflict as a "genocide" is debatable.

Certain member states of the UN and international organizations can certainly call a conflict, war, or ethnic cleansing operation a genocide, but unless all member states of the UN agree, it will not be formally recognized worldwide.

For your delectation here are some;

https://truthlytics.com/20-ongoing-genocides-you-should-know-about/

oddly enough Lebanon isn't mentioned.

Thegreyhound · 11/10/2025 13:19

sabababa · 11/10/2025 12:58

Your words not mine.
Sorry to burst your bubble about the fig leaf jews.
Are you jewish that you feel qualified to comment on Jewish society?

Well according to you I wouldn’t be Jewish enough

sabababa · 11/10/2025 12:58

Thegreyhound · 11/10/2025 11:50

Ah so there IS a hierarchy of Jewishness- good to know where we all stand thanks

Your words not mine.
Sorry to burst your bubble about the fig leaf jews.
Are you jewish that you feel qualified to comment on Jewish society?

HarrietPierce · 11/10/2025 12:25

RedAdmirals · Today 08:38

HarrietPierce · Yesterday 16:55
RedAdmirals ·
"They must be short of daytime soaps to watch "
No they are just against genocide.
What genocide ?

Well the genocide perpetrated by Israel against the Palestinians. But if they haven't genocided enough for you, Israel have resumed bombing Lebanon.

SerendipityJane · 11/10/2025 12:16

Stillreadingalot · 11/10/2025 11:42

World War 2 ended 80 years ago so anyone old enough to live through it would now be at least 81 like my MIL who can't actually remember the war as she was 5 when it ended.
People in their 60s did not live through the war. We really need to get away from this narrative of "pensioners" as part of the generation who resisted Hitler because that's not the case.

You'll be wanting critical thinking next.