To wonder why so many pensioners are supporting Palestine Action, even willing to risk prison for it ?

@ByShyRaven no. I do not believe that the Israeli kids murderer are fair game. Hell no, but I place the blame firmly where it belongs. On Netanyahu and his despicable and apartheid and evil government

by that same logic, people in London who died during the 7/7 bombings were also fair game due to the Uk governments complicity in overseas wars in predominantly Muslim countries.

Exactly, and the Manchester Arena attack. That's why I don't get this logic because it's means that any future terrorist attack (& there are considerable threats) are deserved. Plus it's the same excuse the Far right use for their growing support.

Do you know anything about the history of Hamas? Did you know that Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 and removed any settlers living there, and it was only when Hamas was elected in 2007 and refused to rescind their anti semitic charter calling for the obliteration of Israel that the blockade was set up?

Do you know that Hamas has received billions from supportive regimes and instead of using it to build homes, hospitals and provide food for the citizens of Gaza, they instead focused on building tunnels and importing materials from Egypt to make weapons to continue attacking Israel?

Do you know that it’s a lot more complicated than a silly analogy?

Initially no one knew they were a terrorist group -or at least I didn’t - I think it’s the Govs fault but maybe it’s the media’s -it’s surely a BIG thing to label a mainly U.K. based group terrorists. Where were the big headlines or announcements????

Also swopping MPs around all the time no one knows who is the Home Sec so their pronouncements are ignored

It's not brave it's silly. There are many pro gaza groups and organisations they can support that aren't proscribed terror groups.

Whatever your political beliefs, not condemning the brutal murder of 1200 people is deeply troubling and shocking. Just because someone is Israeli that makes them fair game for murder? I assume due to the actions of the Israeli government.

by that same logic, people in London who died during the 7/7 bombings were also fair game due to the Uk governments complicity in overseas wars in predominantly Muslim countries.

I doubt it given the rest of their post. I wonder if the poster knows what happened on October 7th. Someone listed some of the barbaric brutalities, not sure how they can skip past that,

My mum has gone to a protest (not been arrested). She grew up in a dictatorship and feels the erosion of the right to protest is a dangerous slippery slope. Especially with fascists like Farage waiting in the wings.

Because they know they haven’t got to protect jobs unlike younger generations and are from generations that protested - anti apartite, green ham common etc. they’re incredibly brave. When looking at what we’re up against as a society I worry that younger generations don’t seem to have the same fire

Yeah, 80 year olds are common throwers of molotov cocktails 🙄🙄🙄

Please tell me this is a typo - Jesus fucking Christ - you don’t condemn Hamas?

All of this.

I admire them.

@AlloftheTime 💯 and also the arrest of a woman last week for holding a sign saying she disagrees with the decision to designate Palestine action a terrorist org.
it’s becoming an affront to democracy and quickly and frighteningly a police state.

@Yriovd 💯 and I didn’t condemn the Irish resistance or the anc fight against apartheid either. I despise the necessity for violent conflict but sadly peaceful protest goes nowhere. Even the suffragettes had to resort to action.
all life lost is wholly desperate and awful but the blame is firmly on the side of the aggressors.

I think you know exactly why they are supporting the right to protest. Clearly PA is not a terrorist organisation and if the government gets away with convincing people otherwise we are all screwed.

one does not blame a dog for biting the person who has kicked it for years. one blames the instigator of violence.

Do you blame the British government for all the attacks here then?

You don’t condemn Hamas or October 7th? Wow.

I would've thought people 60+ would have, on average, accumulated more wisdom.

That's definitely not true!

Absolutely this. Anyone willing to protest a genocide, an occupied country getting annihilated daily, regardless of age - won't get any criticism from me.

The question should be, why have they been labelled a terrorist organisation? Why are our government so quick to quieten them. It's peaceful protesting, freedom of speech.

Your post is dripping in condescension OP, maybe they're not 'falling for anything' maybe they see a cause they believe is worth fighting for.

£1.5 million

Younger people can’t afford to risk a criminal record. It’s not such an issue for retired people who aren’t planning to go job hunting any time soon. I wrote to my MP about the proscribing of Palestine action as I strongly disagree with it, but I can’t afford to risk losing my job by joining a public protest. If I were retired, I’d be joining them.