I am being unreasonable - about vapes - but feel I should get this off my chest

Are you ok?

I've recently quit cigarettes and I'm doing patches plus e-cigarettes. I'm bemused at people hating vapers more than smokers 🤣 I thought we were the Kings of Scum.

It's so rare now to smell cigarette smoke. I miss it, it IS cool and nihilistic.

I judge adult vapers so hard, it's the dependency that makes it come across pathetic. I work with 2 people -one guy aged in his 20s, another a lady in her 50s, who must spend at least an hour a day in total away from their desks for vape breaks - this is on top of toilet /coffee breaks and an hour's lunch (big headoffice with hot desks so no one senior around to notice). These same 2 people,.on a work meal, stepped out for a vape 7 times in the 90minutes we were at the restaurant, so basically just under every 15 minutes. Sorry it's going to sound like I have a vendetta against these 2 but I find them both so annoying - At a course a few months ago, it was a packed schedule and we all agreed with the trainer that we'd keep breaks to a minimum so that we could leave early and miss the traffic. Yet every time there was a comfort break, the 2 of them would swan off outside for a few puffs and not come back until 15 minutes later. The lack of will power really disturbs me

Popcorn lung is bullshit, it keeps getting dragged up on these threads

Because vapers vape more than smokers smoke. It goes beyond addiction into compulsion, and it just looks really really pathetic. I know I'm being judgy, and yet. Seeing adults sucking obsessively on a piece of neon plastic that never, ever leaves their hand is really lame to me.

agree. It’s pathetic and I’m embarrassed for them. It’s of a piece with a weird soft blubbery gormlessness that some young people have, unashamedly, that a gen-x-er would die rather than display. They look as if they actually put on the dreadful cagoules that their mums make them carry when it threatens rain. They probably put the hoods up and tie them under their chins. They seem to be sort of in babies’ pyjamas all the time, even if their clothes dont actually look like pyjamas, which half the time they do. How can anyone fancy them? Probably the reason for no babies being born

I'm a vaper and I agree with you. I'm a few months off cigarettes and vaping is helping me stay that way. I very much hope to get off the vape eventually too, but in the meantime I apologise for my obnoxious cloud! 😬

Yanbu. I find vaping absolutely pathetic. I work in private healthcare and do 90% of my job remotely. At our last in person social event, my boss, whom I respected enormously until this, was suckling on his vape all night. At an indoor venue. Secretively. Part of our role is to encourage healthy living and not only was I surprised he vaped but it was those sickly scents and he was nursing it all night. It's very much downgraded my view on him

I'm in my 30s and used to smoke before kids, BTW.

"mouthfuls of other people's lung"

"Adults dummies"

So ridiculous and OTT 🙄

Both my parents were heavy smokers when I was a child, so I guess I was a smoker too in effect. I never really minded the smell, and I ADORED the smell of a just-blown-out match,

The only sickening smell was dirty wet ashtrays in the washing up bowl. Bleurgh.

Yes you can, if the windows are open.

I would argue it's more dangerous than smoking, https://www.lung.org/blog/popcorn-lung-risk-ecigs

Vapes are the alcopops of cigarettes.

What, WHAT?
No you can't, don't be so ridiculous.

The smell of a freshly it cigarette is so so good. Especially in the summer for some reason. I have no wish to put one in my mouth however.
I appreciate I may be alone in this.

I agree. Like watching a baby with a dummy. I feel embarrassed for them.

I somewhat agree......

But I vape. I vape a cigarettey flavour menthol one. It doesn't give off clouds of smoke and I am reasonably good at not puffing on it a lot. 10ml of liquid will last a month.

Its basically a dummy at the moment and I need to take it away but cant let the last bit go.

I cant - but can, believe these "nice" flavours have been marketed to people who if they are wandering around puffing on strawberry cherry flavour would more than likely never have smoked.

I was at a few events last week with 19-25 year olds who had NEVER had a cigarette and all of us oldies who were either on low/no nicotine vapes or still on proper fags ( how the expense? But thats another day) couldn't comprehend why?

They made up so much more of the 'smoking' demographic than any other age

Yet probably would have grown up with if not non smoking parents, at least parents who didn't smoke indoors as that had died down by 2000s or were non or purely social smokers.

But then why on earth did I smoke a silk cut at 14....it definitely wasnt nice
Im sure others will find fruit or sweet vapes really pleasant/cool.

I really want to stop in my rational mind. My additive mind wont let me. I have in the past for quite long periods but stress always drags me back. But ill never smoke cigarettes again, the lingering smell on hair and clothes and breath is no longer for me.
One day (soon, fingers crossed)ill be an ex vaper too

Completely agree, OP. The litter and plastic waste is the worst thing, closely followed by the Opal Fruits/Haribo stench.

It's like the UPF version of smoking.

I hate smoking but I really find vaping bizarre. It just looks so odd - like an adult dummy.

I could never date a vaper in a million years

I was seated at a gig recently and the man in front kept puffing on a vape every few minutes. It wasn't like the disposable stick vapes that smell fruity. It looked like a metal box about the size of a cigarette box. He kept breathing out a cloud of really acrid smelling smoke.

I have Sjogren's syndrome which causes dry eye, dry nasal passages and a dry mouth. Whatever was in the smoke caused irritation to my eyes and nose. I ended up unwell the day after the gig with inflammation in my eyes, nose and mouth.

I did ask him to stop it but he just claimed it was water vapour and harmless. I also asked a steward to ask him to stop but they just shrugged and did nothing. I also wasn't allowed to move seats or go into standing to get away from him. His behaviour really ruined the gig for me.

You're laughing at other people's experiences? Okay. We don't live your life, you don't live ours. Vaping is a massive litter issue and I can't walk down the high street of my city without being accosted with pick'n'mix vapour in my face which just hangs in the air. Don't love smoking either, but I can't remember the time anyone let it blow back in my face...

That’s because a cigarette provides a long lasting hit, whereas a vape has lower concentrations of nicotine and needs to be inhaled more often to give the same buzz. I learned this from my teenage son who unfortunately went through a phase of smoking and vaping. He has since managed to give up both, which I am immensely relieved about.

Agree with this. Grown men clutching a 'tropical daydream' flavour toxic box.

I think the people are the problem. I have two friends who vape very discreetly. I wouldn't know except I see them vaping. There is no smell, and certainly no billowing clouds.

I’m laughing here at the idea that smokers are more considerate. That’s because smoking has become so socially unacceptable that smokers are now seen as the devil incarnate. They have no choice but to keep their addiction away from others. No judgement by the way. It’s a horrible habit, but I appreciate how hard it is to give up, having watched several family members struggle with it. I’m not exactly over the moon about people vaping around me, but if vaping helps them give up smoking, great.

It must be great to be perfect.