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AIBU protecting my time rigidly like this?

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ragandbonewoman · 09/10/2025 20:36

Like many women I have been a people pleaser for years. Accommodating the needs of others where I possibly can, bending and flexing to keep everyone happy.

My kids are nearly adults, and my life is probably the easiest it’s ever been. I love to sleep, I work full time in a full on role, and I decided a couple years back to prioritise what I actually want, rather than what I think would be best for everyone else.

I now don’t plan anything weekday evenings if I have work the next day. So Monday to Thursday. I’m so much happier knowing that I have this time ring fenced to wind down, recharge and get as much sleep as I want. My weekends are really busy socially, with DH, the kids, my own family (big family) and my friends, and I love that.

Some friends really get and respect my decision. Others I feel are really judging me, and just refusing to accept it, responding with “well you just let me know what weekday eves you’re free and I’ll work around you” and “well what about after work until 7, surely you don’t go to bed at 7?!” I feel like I have to keep repeating myself bordering on being rude, and am forced to keep saying “yes I know that I could, but I really don’t want to!”

Tonight I said to a group of friends in a chat (struggling to find an evening to have a takeaway) “you guys just carry on with that date and I’ll catch up with you on the next Saturday catch up” and my friend said oh for goodness sake if you’re that exhausted we will come to yours for the takeaway then you haven’t even got to leave the sofa!” Which totally misses the point, I have spelled it out many times, I won’t make plans weekday evenings! And no I won’t be the slightest bit offended if you crack on without me!

I told this particular friend last time she pushed like this that if she needed me (like something emergency ish) then of course I’d be there like a shot, but I won’t make plans weekday evenings.
i feel like I’m going to ruin our friendship by having to be really rude.

surely I can’t be the only menopausal women who has finally decide to put myself first and stop doing things I don’t want or enjoy to please other people?

OP posts:
Livpool · 10/10/2025 19:19

Pinkroom · 09/10/2025 21:31

This makes me feel really boring but im early 30s and I always refer to my work evenings as school nights! I never plan anything on a school night! I finish at 6 and by the time ive got back from work, walked the dog, made tea, cleaned up and made tomorrow's lunches its bedtime. How do people fit it in?!

To be fair I work 7 - 3 from home so it is a lot easier for me

sambasunsays · 10/10/2025 19:06

I don’t like going out on work nights as I have a really stressful job which means I just want to veg out in the evening. But I definitely make exceptions as otherwise I would miss out on lots of enjoyable things. Quick drink with friends. Local comedy or music. I absolutely inwardly groan when I need to go out on a work night, but I think it’s worth it every now and again. You need to be a bit looser OP.

Goldenbear · 10/10/2025 19:02

MaurineWayBack · 09/10/2025 22:02

The problem here isn’t that you’re saying no.
Its the fact you’ve explained why and it isn’t a socially acceptable and accepted reason.

This situation is exactly the time when you need to be economicall in what you say. And just say ‘nope, I’m not available’
If people can’t cope with you not going out during the week, then you’re not compatible.
(fwiw I dint know many people with older teens who go out during the week either. Even if until 7pm/just a takeaway until 10.00pm etc…. Most people are tired, running around between work, doing housework, keeping an eye on said teenagers etc….and barely catch their breath)

Aren't the OP's kids at uni?

I have a friend like this and they also have a new boundary about not buying a birthday card or present from anyone (money isn't the issue), it is a bit hurtful to the group especially those closer to her. Friendship to me is a bit about making an effort, it's not just take, take, take and your own boundaries.

Notonthestairs · 10/10/2025 18:55

The framing of the AIBU in the original post is off (to me).
I never meet my friends to please them.
I meet them because it pleases me to see them.

So even when I have gone out when I am knackered or have things on my mind I'm not doing that to be a people pleaser.

That's me knowing that I always come away from an evening with them feeling better than when I arrived. I might have to be the first to leave or I might be tired the next day. But the benefit outweighs the negative.

I do turn down invitations when they dont work for me. I just dont need a rule about it.

Horses for courses etc.

Luckyingame · 10/10/2025 18:55

I started fiercely protecting my time, energy and putting myself first at 42.
Something just clicked.
I don't have children, but still one elderly parent in a different country and obviously a husband.
Absolutely YANBU!

CuddlesKovinsky · 10/10/2025 18:53

Tell them you have a lover who takes up all your time and energy...

🤗

ragandbonewoman · 10/10/2025 18:53

Cardinalita90 · 10/10/2025 18:38

You say yourself you have separate friendship groups. So by ruling out evenings, it could potentially be weeks and weeks before you meet up with a particular friend when juggling your family time too. You want it all on your terms.

I think you have to accept that some friends wouldn't be OK with that and if you're happy to take the risk, carry on as you are.

That is a fair point. I accept what many people have said that I may lose friends if I don’t make more effort

OP posts:
Bambamhoohoo · 10/10/2025 18:51

ragandbonewoman · 10/10/2025 18:48

We do also see each other at the weekend. We just arranged to go out for a long lunch 13th December. We also all chat in a WhatsApp group pretty much daily. But after we arranged the lunch people were saying that’s too long, let’s have a takeaway in between. I think a frequent level of face to face contact would have happened without trying before, as we’d see each other at all the kids activities and catch up, but I’m enjoying having those evenings back now I’m in a new stage of life, and I don’t want to make plans, I feel so much happier and healthier not rushing about anymore. I know it sounds really selfish.

I don’t think it’s an issue if you’re seeing each other at weekends- I didn’t pick up that you were doing this.

Catquest · 10/10/2025 18:50

Pinkroom · 09/10/2025 21:31

This makes me feel really boring but im early 30s and I always refer to my work evenings as school nights! I never plan anything on a school night! I finish at 6 and by the time ive got back from work, walked the dog, made tea, cleaned up and made tomorrow's lunches its bedtime. How do people fit it in?!

Haha!
Im exactly the same and always have been.
I work in a very busy job with yapping all day.
Week school nights?
Absolutely no way am I going out.
Home by 5pm, bath, dinner and TV.
Bed at 10pm latest
My social battery is totally flat by then

ragandbonewoman · 10/10/2025 18:48

Hoodlumboodlum · 09/10/2025 22:12

A lot of people have plans at weekends though. Why is the OP's time more important than there's? It's fine to do what she does but she'll lose friends. Her choice though.

Edited

We do also see each other at the weekend. We just arranged to go out for a long lunch 13th December. We also all chat in a WhatsApp group pretty much daily. But after we arranged the lunch people were saying that’s too long, let’s have a takeaway in between. I think a frequent level of face to face contact would have happened without trying before, as we’d see each other at all the kids activities and catch up, but I’m enjoying having those evenings back now I’m in a new stage of life, and I don’t want to make plans, I feel so much happier and healthier not rushing about anymore. I know it sounds really selfish.

OP posts:
Imbrocator · 10/10/2025 18:47

I’ve ring-fenced my Sundays for years and refuse to book anything on that day with anyone. I felt quite guilty and furtive about it at first and used to make excuses, but I’m now completely honest with friends.

The friends who were really demanding about intruding on that personal time, interestingly, are the friends with whom I lost friendships for different reasons. I think some people can’t help but read it as a personal rejection, even if it’s nothing of the sort.

I could understand the unhappiness if a friend of yours was unable to ever take weekends off and you wouldn’t meet them halfway, but if they are equally happy to meet on weekends then there shouldn’t be any problem. Keep on doing what makes you happy!

thisishowloween · 10/10/2025 18:42

If I’m honest I’d also be thinking that it’s surprising that you’re not considering work being a bit of an issue if you never go even for a quick drink Monday- Thursday. You may really love your job and I get that but it does seem a bit extreme. I’m absolutely not a party animal and my job can be brutal but I’m happy to do something social one night a week (by this I mean dinner and a couple of drinks and bed by midnight latest).

I don't think it's extreme - it's just different preferences, surely?

Pezdeoro41 · 10/10/2025 18:42

I really need my weekday evenings too - some people can just constantly go from one thing to another with no downtime, to me that's living hell.

But, I do sometimes do some things during the week, I just need to pace myself. So I say to myself I will do one evening a week MAX (doesn't have to be every week). Would something like that work?

I guess if you can see your friends on the weekend, then there's not too much wrong with saying you just don't go out on a school night, but if you are largely taken up with family stuff at the weekend then it seems you won't see them very often? And you do need to feed friendships if you want to keep them.

thisishowloween · 10/10/2025 18:38

Bambamhoohoo · 10/10/2025 18:00

This is so dismissive and self centred - so I'm having a bad divorce and want to meet up and share the problem, lean on my friend for support and im supposed to wait for a bloody bank holiday?!

There are some outstandingly shit friends on this thread!

So you conveniently ignore the bit where I said "weekends" - which OP says includes a Friday night?

There's nothing "shit" about keeping work nights for yourself and seeing friends at weekends and on a Friday. If that makes me a "shit friend" then meh, so be it.

Cardinalita90 · 10/10/2025 18:38

You say yourself you have separate friendship groups. So by ruling out evenings, it could potentially be weeks and weeks before you meet up with a particular friend when juggling your family time too. You want it all on your terms.

I think you have to accept that some friends wouldn't be OK with that and if you're happy to take the risk, carry on as you are.

Heronwatcher · 10/10/2025 18:37

I also don’t agree that saying if you needed me I would come really cuts it. It’s all the little social contacts that can help us- not necessarily the big disasters. Sometimes I don’t even realise I’m stressed or pissed off until I’ve gone out and had a laugh, then I think god I really needed that!

Heronwatcher · 10/10/2025 18:34

I don’t think you are being necessarily U but I do think you need to beware of the consequences. It’s become a bit too fashionably to fetishise being antisocial, and in fact can lead to MH problems in its own right. If these are good friends it would be a shame to lose them.

Personally I find weekends very difficult so if my friends took your stance the friendship probably would end up falling away. I’d also be a bit hurt you couldn’t occasionally make an exception.

If I’m honest I’d also be thinking that it’s surprising that you’re not considering work being a bit of an issue if you never go even for a quick drink Monday- Thursday. You may really love your job and I get that but it does seem a bit extreme. I’m absolutely not a party animal and my job can be brutal but I’m happy to do something social one night a week (by this I mean dinner and a couple of drinks and bed by midnight latest).

MeetMyCat · 10/10/2025 18:29

OP, maybe there’s a slight compromise position here? I worked hard to create a circle of friends and hobby groups, and sometimes it takes a bit of effort to maintain things. Be a bit careful here

JLou08 · 10/10/2025 18:26

I can't remember the last time I went out on a week night or the last time I was invited. All my friends and family are also at home every week night relaxing and meet ups are at the weekend

gianfrancogorgonzola · 10/10/2025 18:23

This is an interesting thread. I’m like you OP but tbh I DGAF if people don’t want to see me at ALL as a result of protecting my precious time!

I have about five really close friends, two of whom live in the same city but two live on another continent! Another lives about two hours away. Then another ‘outer inner’ circle around that, iykwim.

Basically my point is: we don’t need that many truly great friends to nourish us, particularly the introverts among us. I would find weekday meet ups pointlessly tiring and would - do - avoid them at all costs. You do you bae.

DashboardConfession · 10/10/2025 18:03

ScaryM0nster · 10/10/2025 14:00

I’m confident the issue you’re hitting is that you’ve got some friends who run their lives the other way around.

So weekends are for home / chill / immediate family / partner time. And week nights are for other stuff.

At which point, you’re saying your unconstrained preferences trump theirs.

You get to choose that you prefer weekend stuff. They get to choose to prefer weeknights.

Neither of you is right or wrong, but without some flexibility you all miss out. And with you refusing to ever compromise, you’re the one who’s being selfish and demanding and prioritising yourself over others consistently. That behaviour doesn’t maintain friendships.

Which you might be ok with. But at the moment it sounds like you’re showing up as expecting everyone else to pander to your whim. Probably Dont intend to, but that will be how it’s landing.

Agreed. I have a friend who will only do Sunday afternoons and it is so annoying because that's the bit of the weekend where all DS's sports etc are done and we can finally all just sit down and watch a film or play a game. So we don't meet up all that often. If she suggested a Tuesday after work I'd be up for that. We just arrange our free time differently.

Bambamhoohoo · 10/10/2025 18:00

thisishowloween · 10/10/2025 17:58

So that contact can occur on weekends, or bank holidays, or when OP has annual leave or a day off in the week.

I'm very glad my friends aren't as needy as some people on here appear to be.

This is so dismissive and self centred - so I'm having a bad divorce and want to meet up and share the problem, lean on my friend for support and im supposed to wait for a bloody bank holiday?!

There are some outstandingly shit friends on this thread!

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 10/10/2025 17:59

If people are pushy and they don't accept a polite decline, and they are the sort of person who sees your no as a start point for negotiation, then just save your breath and go for the I don't want to. For some reason it's the only thing some people hear. I once ended up telling SIL that I didn't love her enough to get out of bed that early at the weekend when she invited us to a birthday breakfast at 8am shes a fucking psycho .

thisishowloween · 10/10/2025 17:58

Bambamhoohoo · 10/10/2025 17:55

You certainly can for internet friends, or friends who are long distance.

but it’s clear this friendship group is footed in face to face contact, as many are.

So that contact can occur on weekends, or bank holidays, or when OP has annual leave or a day off in the week.

I'm very glad my friends aren't as needy as some people on here appear to be.

RawBaby · 10/10/2025 17:57

Reformed people pleasers are so often on here complaining about losing friends since they stopped their people-pleasing ways, but I think you also need to take some responsibility for creating the dynamic in the first place. If you have spent thirty years, 'bending and flexing and keeping everyone happy' at the expense of your own wishes, you've trained people to expect that kind of behaviour from you.

They're not mind-readers. They don't know that you spent three decades hating weekday evening socialising, and only doing it through gritted teeth because you thought it was your job to accommodate other people rather than yourself.

So, obviously they are puzzled when you suddenly change and become completely inflexible about what you won't do.

And I think you need to lose the delusion that all women are people-pleasers. They really aren't. Your friends have probably prioritised their own wishes all along, and don't know that you haven't, and that your current position on weekday evening socialising is so completely inflexible because you're reacting against a lifetime of doing things you didn't want.

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