To ask if most straight men are attracted much younger women?

Yes but Jason Statham is not the average bald men. Most men you meet in real life don’t look like him 🤣

Colin the orange ex pat as a lifelong hunter protector? 🤣 I doubt it. Maybe a lifelong hunter and protector of kebabs and pints.

You keep making sweeping and unfounded statements. This must mean this and this. First it was 'if this applies to men then it must apply to women'. Now it's 'if this applies to older women it must apply to young women'.

There are massive differences between people of varying sex and age. Otherwise we might as well say "older people are more likely to be conservative/vote for brexit so this must apply to younger people too".

Studies repeatedly show that bald men are perceived as more dominant and confident. I might wonder if this appeals to women as they start to look for stable and dependable men rather than hipster rockstars with manbuns who resemble their youthful crushes. Nobody wants a man who spends more time on his hair then they do.

They've done studies using AI imaging and the very same men are perceived as more confident and dominant when bald. Certainly people are weird about it because if you suggest women don't look as good without long hair they say this is social conditioning and often get a bit irate. But it's true IMO. Men tend to like feminine women but women don't tend to like feminine men.

It's certainly rare outside the lesbian scene to want a butch woman and the visual difference between a woman with a pixie cut and a butch can sometimes just be a couple of stone.

I hate all this modern feminist insistence on making everything about social conditioning, misogyny, proganda, etc. They're always so desperate to shoehorn in some social theory and insinuate that those that disgree have been brainwashed when in reality the vast majority of women nowadays reject 'feminism' and instead profess to support equality (not really interchangeable phrases nowadays). At least a gun only has one trigger lol.

Studies have shown baldness in men is seen as a non-threatening form of social dominance.

Bald men are also thought to be more socially mature, intelligent, educated and honest compared with men who have a full head of hair.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14682669/amp/Women-attracted-BALD-men-study-reveals.html

I would wonder if there was a distinction made between ‘objectively most attractive’ and ‘what you are attracted to’, because to me, there is no point in being attracted to someone out of your league. Wonder how they framed it.

Sorry, I was being a bit snarky/tongue in cheek. A cheeky whisky will do that.

I wasn't suggesting that butch women are fatter. Although you make a good point that they likely feel inclined to adhere to 'female beauty standards'. I was more getting at the fact that a lot of women get exasperated at the suggestion that women generally look better with long hair but are quite happy to opine about how much better men look with hair.

The beauty standard is usually set by the opposite sex (eye of the beholder and all that) and men tend to like a feminine appearance. I think if a woman has very short hair and isn't 'dainty' she can sometimes look a bit butch. I know it's a bit taboo to say but it's like how women can generally get away with saying they don't date shorter men but a man will ruffle a few feathers is he says he doesn't date above a size 10.

I think a lot of people haven't really grasped that 'be nice' was actually more of a life philosophy for many of us rather than a commandment to be followed, and people often don't like being told what to do. Like how I'm usually happy to buy someone a drink/get a round in until somebody actually orders me tox at which point I'd probs be like "actually, nah".

The trans lobby have found this out to their own consternation. They never had any actual power that wasn't dependent on people acquiesing to their demands and 'being nice'. However, I feel like their entitlement caused people to lose their goodwill and eventually say "sorry Krystal but you'll have to use the gents from now on"." And now the chicken hascl flown then coop they're powerles despite their impotent fury.

I agree with quite a bit of this. Will look at the bald study.
Odd comment about butch women being fatter than others - from my experience of the lesbian scene, they don't tend to be particularly fat, plenty are quite into sport and fitness, sometimes weightlifting.
It's true lesbians are more likely to be overweight on average. Two reasons are that women are generally less demanding re weight & other visual things, (and/or feel less comfortable with being demanding) & stress from various stuff (trans madness now, tiny dating pool - plus a lot of studies on these are from years back when prejudice was worse) . Also that spaces for lesbians often include alcohol.
Aside from that, I definitely think a butch woman and a woman with a pixie cut are distinguishable. The haircut obviously, clothes & styling too.

Colin the orange ex pat as a lifelong hunter protector? 🤣 I doubt it. Maybe a lifelong hunter and protector of kebabs and pints.

You keep making sweeping and unfounded statements. This must mean this and this. First it was 'if this applies to men then it must apply to women'. Now it's 'if this applies to older women it must apply to young women'.

There are massive differences between people of varying sex and age. Otherwise we might as well say "older people are more likely to be conservative/vote for brexit so this must apply to younger people too".

Studies repeatedly show that bald men are perceived as more dominant and confident. I might wonder if this appeals to women as they start to look for stable and dependable men rather than hipster rockstars with manbuns who resemble their youthful crushes. Nobody wants a man who spends more time on his hair then they do.

They've done studies using AI imaging and the very same men are perceived as more confident and dominant when bald. Certainly people are weird about it because if you suggest women don't look as good without long hair they say this is social conditioning and often get a bit irate. But it's true IMO. Men tend to like feminine women but women don't tend to like feminine men.

It's certainly rare outside the lesbian scene to want a butch woman and the visual difference between a woman with a pixie cut and a butch can sometimes just be a couple of stone.

I hate all this modern feminist insistence on making everything about social conditioning, misogyny, proganda, etc. They're always so desperate to shoehorn in some social theory and insinuate that those that disgree have been brainwashed when in reality the vast majority of women nowadays reject 'feminism' and instead profess to support equality (not really interchangeable phrases nowadays). At least a gun only has one trigger lol.

Studies have shown baldness in men is seen as a non-threatening form of social dominance.

Bald men are also thought to be more socially mature, intelligent, educated and honest compared with men who have a full head of hair.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14682669/amp/Women-attracted-BALD-men-study-reveals.html

Yes I understand that women can also look older and sun damaged. My point was that you describe that as a positive in a man while likening a woman to 'an old leather handbag', when in reality they're both signs that the person isn't at their biological prime, so if these theories hold true, should be overlooked as a mate.
Yet your imagination, fueled by the propaganda of older men, reinvents middle aged Colin, who has spent too much time round the pool in Benidorm, as a manly man who looks that way because he's spent a life hunting and protecting.
Women may report becoming more attracted to bald men as they (the women) age because they are likely to be partnered with one and are biased/kind or else realistic about how hirsute their dating pool has become. If it was really a plus and percieved as 'wisdom' then young women would be attracted to them too.

Don't forget that a jacked man will often have an 'obese' bmi as it's just height and weight rather than body composition. A woman with an obese bmi is usually obese.

Men are more likely to be overweight or obese, but women are more likely to be specifically obese.

I guess metabolism plays a role, since women have more fat than muscle naturally. Also the fact that men are more likely to exercise more.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.smf.co.uk/publications/gendered-experiences-of-obesity/%23:~:text%3DTrends%2520in%2520obesity%2520rates%2520among,be%2520relatively%2520low%2520household%2520incomes.&ved=2ahUKEwjozv-6lqeQAxWMVkEAHQc0LoIQzsoNegQIHxAe&usg=AOvVaw10CSe25JzD9-b5bhxG8jnk

Obviously this isn't a terribly reliable metric, but I can't think of a single male celebrity whose been lauded for their attractiveness while being bald.. Goggling comes up with mainly examples like Travolta who were not bald when they were praised for their looks.

Obviously this isn't a terribly reliable metric, but I can't think of a single male celebrity whose been lauded for their attractiveness while being bald.. Goggling comes up with mainly examples like Travolta who were not bald when they were praised for their looks.

Aren't there more obese women than men though?

This is true. Men tend to let themselves go, and it’s a shame and we should actually shame them for gaining weight (particularly in the unhealthy pattern that they do), dressing sloppily, doing nothing about balding (lots can be done nowadays) and going around with Jack o’Lantern teeth.

The problem is not high standards for women. The problem is that the standards for men are so fucking low.

Yes but Jason Statham is not the average bald men. Most men you meet in real life don’t look like him 🤣

Do women really find bald men especially attractive? I just find that hard to compute. I'm not saying they're not attractive, but I'm surprised if people find them MORE attractive than men with all their hair.

Do women really find bald men especially attractive? I just find that hard to compute. I'm not saying they're not attractive, but I'm surprised if people find them MORE attractive than men with all their hair.

Do women really find bald men especially attractive? I just find that hard to compute. I'm not saying they're not attractive, but I'm surprised if people find them MORE attractive than men with all their hair.

Obviously this isn't a terribly reliable metric, but I can't think of a single male celebrity whose been lauded for their attractiveness while being bald.. Goggling comes up with mainly examples like Travolta who were not bald when they were praised for their looks.

Do women really find bald men especially attractive? I just find that hard to compute. I'm not saying they're not attractive, but I'm surprised if people find them MORE attractive than men with all their hair.

Yes I understand that women can also look older and sun damaged. My point was that you describe that as a positive in a man while likening a woman to 'an old leather handbag', when in reality they're both signs that the person isn't at their biological prime, so if these theories hold true, should be overlooked as a mate.
Yet your imagination, fueled by the propaganda of older men, reinvents middle aged Colin, who has spent too much time round the pool in Benidorm, as a manly man who looks that way because he's spent a life hunting and protecting.
Women may report becoming more attracted to bald men as they (the women) age because they are likely to be partnered with one and are biased/kind or else realistic about how hirsute their dating pool has become. If it was really a plus and percieved as 'wisdom' then young women would be attracted to them too.