to want the anti-vaxxers to explain themselves?

Maybe you should. Never heard of herd immunity? It affects all of us. Measles increase is just obe of the most recent examples...

I don't tend to get posts about vaccines, but have noticed that if there is a story about someone who died young, there are a lot of comments under it asking if they had 'the jab'. I just ignore what I'm not interested in.

I hadn't really thought about the demographic of Facebook much. In some way we create our own demographic by who we add as friends, what groups we follow, etc.

I have no idea how many people in my demographic have a degree. When I meet people I either click with them or I don't. Not having a degree doesn't mean they aren't capable of having one anyway, just chose a different path.

I saw the thing about the education level of Facebook users and found it a snobby stuck up comment. And surely it's SOME facebook users comments about vaccines notall. As I said I don't seem to get comments about vaccines or other contentious subjects on my Facebook

And seeing as I'm from a generation level where less than 25 % of people had a degree then you would expect if the coment was true I should see a lot of " uneducated," comments on my feed. Yet I dont

If you read back a few pages, you'd see the context. Kind of an irrelevant side thread about the education level of Facebook users, since FB users comments on threads about vaccines were a linked discussion.

Butwhats that got to do with anything?

Depends on who you add as friends too. Almost everyone on my friends list will have at least one degree. A few have PhDs.

Me and my daughters had a couple of periods after the vaccine that were a lot more painful than usual, and did have heavier bleeding. I can imagine if you did have an underlying condition it could exacerbate it, otherwise it sorted itself out within a couple of cycles.

There's a difference between declining routine vaccinations and declining one that is needed as a treatment for a situation like that.

There's also a difference in a situation like, I'm never leaving the UK so I won't take a polio vaccine vs. I'm going to visit an area where polio is rife, so the balance swings towards taking the vaccine.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Sometimes factors weigh differently in different situations.

I had abnormal bleeding (abnormal for me) after the first couple of vaccines but covid itself also sent my periods haywire. I just figured it was one of those things but the vaccine was more of a priority for me than my periods being messed up

See, perhaps they aren’t “antivaxxers” but you just label them that.
I don’t claim to be an antivaxxer. I’ve been told not to have vaccines after having had a severe reaction in childhood. If I were to take a rabies shot that would be a last resort life/death situation and noting to do with being antivax or not. But you would consider me an antivaxxer currently.

A statistically significant number of women have reported unexpected bleeding after a Covid jab. These were short-term (max three months) and minor effects, not haemorrhaging. BUT we don't know how many of these events would've occurred anyway and not been reported. I certainly didn't report mid-cycle spotting or ovulation bleeds in the normal course of events.

I did once haemorrhage unexpectedly - a moderate river of blood, embarrassingly in the Sainsbury's queue while wearing shorts 😬 Phoned my doctor, who asked if it had stopped (yes), was I pregnant (no), and gently suggested that, at 47, I was probably starting menopause.

If I'd had a vaccination the day before, I'd have been keen to know if the two events were linked and would likely have reported it as a possible side-effect. I hadn't, so this didn't happen. But you can see how natural it feels to conclude that A caused B, when in fact B was a physical process that was going to occur regardless of other choices.

I'm on Facebook. Don't seem to get nutters, anti vaxxers and rants or anything of the sort. Mine is full of travel deals, travel groups etc

But you are coming across as extremely snobby. You may only want to speak to degree educated higher income people but not everyone is so stuck up and insular

WTF are you on about? It's been well documented that many women had vaginal bleeding and mucked up periods after having the jab

Of course they did. Their lives didn't just freeze up before they had the vaccine. That only happens in sci fi movies.

Well it was three years but it didn't happen so they've extended the deadline.

I've asked numerous anti-vaxxers if they'd refuse a rabies vaccine if they were bitten by an animal suspected of being infected. They don't want to answer that one...

If an anti cancer vaccine was introduced I'd hope my adult kids would take it. Less bothered at my age. Youth should be prioritised

I’ve just been and had both flu and Covid today, pharmacist said it’s been really busy for both

You missed the point. Going to the gym didn't cause it, a curry didn't cause it, a vaccination didn't cause it. The poster I was replying to had uterine cancer. That's what caused it.

Possibly .

Alternatively it could be considered a cost-cutting exercise. And given the amount of people currently reporting feeling quite ill with the current round of COVID, may be one which they will regret.

Not suggesting that healthy people in their 20s/30s should have the vaccine, but that there are many people in the 65-75 age group plus people with certain illnesses who were entitled to the vaccine on NHS previously but no longer get it this year. Plus, offering the vaccine to health and social care workers is IMO, sensible. I certainly don’t agree with the forced vaccinations of a few years back but the opportunity for those working with the elderly and vulnerable to be vaccinated freely makes sense to me.

My understanding is that the booster doses are only really effective in the short term.

How have they squandered it?

Well, I’ve never had flu since and nor has my family. We’re good without it, thanks. Our own immune systems seem to be quite strong.

I would miss a lot of local community information without Facebook. It's the only reason I stay. For the information.

This post hits the nail on the head IMO. Only half the UK’s eligible population is on it, with a higher proportion of women than men. And only somewhere between a quarter and a third of users are degree educated. Facebook users seem to be less educated in general. They are also more likely to be in the middle or lower income demographic, and more likely to be millennials than any other group. So why would one would want to even be on it? Let alone read or engage with the drivel that seems to be there. It’s just a platform for people to say ‘look at me’, and fill a gap in a life that’s clearly missing something ;)

When you come across a nutter in the street or a bar raging against something or other, would you ask them to explain themselves, or would you do what everyone else does and just walk on by and ignore them? Posting on Facebook doesn’t give it any more legitimacy than an average nutter! What sort of arrogance makes anyone think that they have the right to ask another random person to explain themselves, and what sort of idiot would even try 😂

Quite a lot of women had menstrual irregularities after the covid vaccination. I don't know that it would cause cancer but it could certainly have tended to hide irregular bleeding. I had it, my daughter did, and several friends and family. It lasted for a good while too, something like 6 months to a year later my daughter and I were still having irregularities.

I think they did investigate this and decided it was basically harmless, but at the time I think many people found it quite disconcerting because there was no warning and no explanation.

The whole claim it was well tested seemed to be challenged by the fact that they didn't realise it would have effects like that. Because presumably it should have been observed when they did the testing if it was common.

It was just another thing that made people lose trust.