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Edinburgh Waverley station needs me.

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TallOrLong · 08/10/2025 19:37

Here are the facts:

  • I go to many train stations, I never ever get confused elsewhere.
  • I never go to Waverley without walking round in a big loop in a state of confusion.
  • From observation I am not the only one.

I am prepared to provide executive advice. Payment terms are a baguette from upper crust, a bag of percy pigs from M&S and some scottish fudge from, well, somewhere that sells good fudge.

This is not actually an AIBU, because I am not being unreasonable. I am on a train leaving Edinburgh having finally found my platform. See you next time for the same fun again Waverley!

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RadiatorDrying · 09/10/2025 07:59

ThePieceHall · 08/10/2025 22:38

@TallOrLong

Once you’ve got Waverley ship-shape (love that station, mainly for the Wetherspoon’s), please will you come and sort out Leeds Railway Station?

I remember when Leeds introduced a new platform around 25 years ago. It used to go platforms 1-13, or 1-17 (can't recall now) so you'd expect it to now be 1-14 or 1-18...but no...it was named platform W. Because it's westerly! Lovely bit of Yorkshire logic there 😀

I love the Piece Hall - used to shop there all the time when I was a kid. I gather it's now a music venue and all sorts!

RadiatorDrying · 09/10/2025 07:55

GoBazGo · 08/10/2025 22:33

Does anyone know the usual platform for trains to Preston (Great Western)? And landmarks to look for? TA.

I've been doing that run for over 20 years and it's often platform 8. Which is up and over via the escalators to the left if you're stood with your back to the old main waiting room looking at the departure boards (some of them anyway!) with Costa on your right and Pret on your left. It's Avanti on the WCML though, not Great Western.

RadiatorDrying · 09/10/2025 07:52

TalulaHalulah · 08/10/2025 23:08

If you look on realtimetrains.co.uk you can enter the name of the station, date and time and it will give you the platform - not sure how far in advance it goes.
Then once you have found that, Network Rail do have a station map if you google that.

whatplatform.co.uk also does the same job.

Finding the actual platform is then another matter 😀

guinnessguzzler · 09/10/2025 07:47

Those were the days when you could drive right into Waverley for drop off or pick up, and even park in there. Seems almost unbelievable now!

RadiatorDrying · 09/10/2025 07:36

ThatCalmFinch · 08/10/2025 22:47

Never had a problem with Waverley, nor Gare du Nord, nor St P but attempting to find my out of Paddington underground to exit in the main station has been traumatic. I also ended up walking in a circle for 20 minutes last week trying to find my way south to the river from Bank/Monument station - all exits from both stations seem to lead to each other.

Op will you consider expanding your role to cover confusing London underground stations?

Edited

Padders is a nightmare in that regard. At Easter I had cause to go from Penzance to Padders then cross London to travel from Euston to the north west. Mainly because I'd discovered I couldn't overnight in London and travel home the next day as Euston was being closed for the entire bank holiday weekend so the toilets could be replaced 🙄

I almost missed my train and possibly the entire the bank holiday weekend to the task of trying to cross from the main station into the Underground. Frank Pick and Charles Holden must be spinning at the very thought of how that's laid out.

MiddleAgedDread · 09/10/2025 07:32

TallOrLong · 08/10/2025 22:37

This calls for Wacky Hat Man! Let us know if you find him.

Great western?? It’s TPE or avanti west coast to Preston. often 7, 8 or 9. Never 3, 4, 5, or 6, but sure I’ve taken it from one of 14-17 once. Or just get on at haymarket!

Delphiniumandlupins · 09/10/2025 01:29

Silvers11 · 09/10/2025 00:02

It brings you out at the back of the Station - so up the hill, under the bridge and onto Leith Street. Just UP the road from John Lewis. Quickest way to get to John Lewis, the Omni centre and the Playhouse

Found this exit once meeting my DD during Covid times. Station was very quiet and we got easily parked by the exit. One of my fondest Waverley memories.

Delphiniumandlupins · 09/10/2025 01:00

OdeToTheNorthWestWind · 08/10/2025 19:49

I don't know Edinburgh Waverley personally, but for a few bags of Percy Pigs and some Colin the Caterpillar mini cakes, I'd be willing to go up there, do an in-depth survey and produce a map.... similar to the one of the London Underground?

You can't draw a normal flat map though, Waverley needs a third dimension.

SparklyCardigan · 09/10/2025 00:35

OSTMusTisNT · 09/10/2025 00:25

Hang on, how many exits are there?

Main one up the road/ramp, Cockburn Street at the front. A harder to find one along the side that comes out at a Council building and guessing one up to Princes street.

Is there another secret one?

Yep. To get out the back way, walk past M&S, along platform 2 or whatever it's calling itself these days, keep going past the piano and up the steps. It's the best exit. Technically it's also an entrance but I never go in that way.

TressiliansStone · 09/10/2025 00:35

Of course last time I was only running that late because I'd just escaped a near identical experience trapped in the tower annexe of the National Museum of Scotland, the closing announcements sounding around me.

TressiliansStone · 09/10/2025 00:28

user1476613140 · 08/10/2025 21:21

Again, the guy in the wacky hat is all over accessibility at Waverley. It's his job! He is used to helping people from all places arriving in Waverley with mobility issues or if they're lost and unsure where to go.

Do the wacky hats involve badges? Or other embellishments? I'm getting a faint vision of perhaps a blue topper with maybe a feather?

Perhaps I've invoked him in time past. Though I don't feel a sufficiently reliable witness in this matter to appease the sceptical.

I admit my technique now is to throw myself on the mercy of anyone uniformed, gasping, "I have an off-peak ticket so must depart the station in the next 8 minutes. I've been trying for half an hour but the trains keep disappearing off the board."

Staff are usually very unsurprised and very nice about it.Grin

OSTMusTisNT · 09/10/2025 00:25

Silvers11 · 09/10/2025 00:02

It brings you out at the back of the Station - so up the hill, under the bridge and onto Leith Street. Just UP the road from John Lewis. Quickest way to get to John Lewis, the Omni centre and the Playhouse

Hang on, how many exits are there?

Main one up the road/ramp, Cockburn Street at the front. A harder to find one along the side that comes out at a Council building and guessing one up to Princes street.

Is there another secret one?

jonthebatiste · 09/10/2025 00:24

Re Burger King/M&S, I found on my last trip that the best solution is to place yourself in a long queue at the LNER ticket office - perhaps because you missed your train BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T FIND THE RIGHT BLOODY PLATFORM - mutter under your breath for the 20 minutes it takes to reach the front of the queue, muster all your decency to be nice to the poor put-upon LNER staff member behind the counter, acquire a new ticket along with express confirmation of the new platform number IN TRIPLICATE along with directions to said platform, wander out of this office still muttering under your breath and with blurred vision because your ire is only just beginning to subside, wait for the smoke out of your ears to dissipate…..and lo! M&S will be in front of you and you’ll only be just a tiny bit confused by the smell of frying fatty beef patties. Whether or not M&S will have any sandwiches left to purchase is a different matter entirely.

Silvers11 · 09/10/2025 00:11

TryOnATeaCosy · 08/10/2025 21:16

I know and love Waverley dearly, but my particular favourite is that platforms 7 and 11 are exactly the same platform.

Absolute genius.

And you have to walk a very long way to reach platform 7......

siliconcover · 09/10/2025 00:08

user1476613140 · 08/10/2025 21:21

Again, the guy in the wacky hat is all over accessibility at Waverley. It's his job! He is used to helping people from all places arriving in Waverley with mobility issues or if they're lost and unsure where to go.

I've been using Waverley since 1991 & have never seen anyone assisting with accessibility. Sorry but I don't believe 'wacky hat guy' exists outside of Scotch mist.

Silvers11 · 09/10/2025 00:02

TallOrLong · 08/10/2025 20:17

WOAH WOAH WOAH. Is this a true fact or mumsnet misinformation? I can come out at John Lewis?? Hurry this way, let us share a wee dram and tell me more of this secret world.

It brings you out at the back of the Station - so up the hill, under the bridge and onto Leith Street. Just UP the road from John Lewis. Quickest way to get to John Lewis, the Omni centre and the Playhouse

Ratafia · 08/10/2025 23:55

Dearg · 08/10/2025 19:47

I think Waverley represents a microcosm of Edinburgh itself. Visited recently, driving, thought I knew my way round. Holy crap, they do like to make you tour the city and suburbs.

I remember driving around Edinburgh using an early model satnav. The poor thing got totally confused and ended up spluttering contradictory half sentences before totally giving up.

siliconcover · 08/10/2025 23:54

The John Lewis exit is the best bit. You can avoid ALL the tourists & and Festival goers. No ticket office or complaints place now. Borders trains always cancelled. London Sleeper trains often hard to find (absurdly).
And platforms that change number halfway along. Still it IS the most glorious view as you exit, tbf, even for spoiled for food views locals. Pass the pigs & Neros :)

TallOrLong · 08/10/2025 23:46

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 08/10/2025 23:42

That's fine, this doesn't affect the holistic navigation. You don't need to follow someone who knows where they are going, just someone who looks like they know where they are going.

The important this is that when you inevitably end up in the wrong place, you can blame someone other than yourself.

I’m horrified to consider that this might actually be the answer 😬😆

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VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 08/10/2025 23:42

TallOrLong · 08/10/2025 23:35

You highlight another issue. The departures board. There is what appears to be a departures board in what appears to be the main concourse where all the platforms appear to be.

SURPRISE!

That is only the boards for the sub-set of platforms that are in that bit. Tough luck if you stand there waiting to see which platform your train goes from and it isn’t one of those. Your train will never come up.

No. You need to turn around and go to the inside bit where nobody intuitively goes. The full board is in there, and that’s where you find out there are a whole load of other platforms hiding from you. Which you can’t then find anyway.

That's fine, this doesn't affect the holistic navigation. You don't need to follow someone who knows where they are going, just someone who looks like they know where they are going.

The important this is that when you inevitably end up in the wrong place, you can blame someone other than yourself.

TallOrLong · 08/10/2025 23:35

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 08/10/2025 23:23

I have never been to the station in question, but the solution seems clear to me. You need to follow the "Dirk Gently" means of holistic navigation.

You stand in front of the departure board, and 10 minutes before your train leaves, you pick someone who looks like they know where they're going, and then follow them.

You may not end up where you intended to be, but you will end up exactly where the universe intends you to be.

Unless it's Dunvant. In that case you're just lost.

You highlight another issue. The departures board. There is what appears to be a departures board in what appears to be the main concourse where all the platforms appear to be.

SURPRISE!

That is only the boards for the sub-set of platforms that are in that bit. Tough luck if you stand there waiting to see which platform your train goes from and it isn’t one of those. Your train will never come up.

No. You need to turn around and go to the inside bit where nobody intuitively goes. The full board is in there, and that’s where you find out there are a whole load of other platforms hiding from you. Which you can’t then find anyway.

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VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 08/10/2025 23:23

I have never been to the station in question, but the solution seems clear to me. You need to follow the "Dirk Gently" means of holistic navigation.

You stand in front of the departure board, and 10 minutes before your train leaves, you pick someone who looks like they know where they're going, and then follow them.

You may not end up where you intended to be, but you will end up exactly where the universe intends you to be.

Unless it's Dunvant. In that case you're just lost.

RampantIvy · 08/10/2025 23:20

My local station has just one platform, and modt of the line is single track. Then when one train breaks down or gets delayed the knock on effect can last all day.

TallOrLong · 08/10/2025 23:18

Merrilydancing · 08/10/2025 23:11

Thought it was just me that couldn’t figure it out. The most regular train is the Glasgow one and that could really be anywhere.

I think there are probably lost tribes living there having never found their escape.

This is undoubtedly true. And according to @Hoardasurass , they are about to concrete them all in so they never get out!

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RampantIvy · 08/10/2025 23:16

TallOrLong · 08/10/2025 22:49

Leeds is the GOLD STANDARD. Well in terms of logical, consistent ordering of platforms.

I agree there is work to be done on the pain of thinking you are at adjacent platforms but not factoring the need to ascend and descend Everest in order to make your 2 minute connection.

Also the longest platforms ever, I’ll also agree 11a and 11b does not make it clear they are in different timezones.

I think the issues in Leeds are beyond signage, they are not going to be solved by some percy pigs and a marker pen.

Whenever I go to Leeds my train home always leaves from platform 17, so I always have to add another 10 minutes to allow getting from the barrier to my platform.