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The global spread of radical Islamic groups

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RealDiscussionNotHate · 08/10/2025 11:19

The Roman Empire
The British Empire
The Ottoman Empire
Just to name a few in the past.

The world continues to change and the growing rise of radical Islamic groups throughout the world might be the next empire. What do you think. There is plenty of evidence to show that radical Islamic groups are spreading. There are so many conflicts going on (much that never reaches main news).

The rise of terrorism in Africa. The rise in terrorist incidents and prevented terrorist incidents in Europe. Why is terrorism in the world becoming such a huge threat?

This is meant to be a actual question. Most people of all colours/faiths/cultures are peaceful and want nothing to do with terrorism. However, there is a power struggle in many countries, Sudan, Yemen, Lebanon. I wish everyone could live alongside each other, so how do we try to get along more?

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Dreamingofabeach · 08/10/2025 15:55

Really interesting op! This is my job - so I’m a Humanitarian worker who spends my time designing and implementing emergency and development programmes in the Middle East.

I’m currently between Gaza / Jordan, also in and out of Yemen frequently and spent years between Syria and Iraq running reintegration programming for families detained in Al Hol as either associates or perceived associates of ISIS.

Something I am seeing along with a lot of colleagues in the field is an overall shift towards conservatism which often goes hand in hand with overall religious extremism, associated with different religious beliefs.

Which from a theoretical perspective is quite interesting as a lot of, for example, European countries (including my own as I’m dual national) have had a shift to more right wing conservative governments over the last few years - perhaps in response to those countries fear of extremism, or for a range of other factors - however one of the I suppose unintended consequences is this also fuels different types of extremism which can lead to a bit of a cycle. - which I think is what we do see in lots of conflicts and regions globally.

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smallglassbottle · 08/10/2025 15:34

RealDiscussionNotHate · 08/10/2025 14:27

A common area of peace and stability. I'm not sure how that contributes to the rise of worldwide Islamic terrorist organisation. Could you share what link you think that has to the rise in Worldwide radical Islamist groups?

No, it's just called the Barcelona Agreement. It's not actually about Barcelona.

PraisebetoGod · 08/10/2025 15:33

RealDiscussionNotHate · 08/10/2025 14:27

A common area of peace and stability. I'm not sure how that contributes to the rise of worldwide Islamic terrorist organisation. Could you share what link you think that has to the rise in Worldwide radical Islamist groups?

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/barcelona-agreement-treaty-on-growth-of-islamism/

RealDiscussionNotHate · 08/10/2025 15:18

RealDiscussionNotHate · 08/10/2025 15:13

The civil war in Sudan

As the civil war enters its third year, Sudan’s two warring factions remain locked in a deadly power struggle. Death toll estimates vary widely, with the former U.S. envoy for Sudan suggesting as many as one hundred and fifty thousand people have been killed since the conflict began on April 15, 2023. More than fourteen million have been displaced, giving rise to the worst displacement crisis in the world. Nearly three million displaced Sudanese have fled to unstable areas in Chad, Ethiopia, and South Sudan, overrunning refugee camps. The UN continues to plead for more support as more than thirty million need humanitarian assistance, and deteriorating food security risks are triggering the “world’s largest hunger crisis.”

Meanwhile, mediation efforts have failed to produce results as the leaders of the Sudanese Armed Forces (SAF) and Rapid Support Forces (RSF) refuse to halt their violence, and regional and international actors have taken sides in the war. As conditions deteriorate, the World Food Programme’s Carl Skau warned, “we are running out of time.”
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This alone 150,000 estimated killed in a bit over 2 years. (since April 2023)

4 million displaced people.

More than 30 million needing humanitarian assistance - the world's largest hunger crisis.

I realise that most of this is not interesting to people here or in Westernised countries. However, the impact will gradually be seen (is already being seen) throughout a large part of the world. As I mentioned our children and grandchildren will have the effects of this to deal with. It's a growing situation and incredibly sad for the innocents caught up in it.

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RealDiscussionNotHate · 08/10/2025 15:13

The civil war in Sudan

As the civil war enters its third year, Sudan’s two warring factions remain locked in a deadly power struggle. Death toll estimates vary widely, with the former U.S. envoy for Sudan suggesting as many as one hundred and fifty thousand people have been killed since the conflict began on April 15, 2023. More than fourteen million have been displaced, giving rise to the worst displacement crisis in the world. Nearly three million displaced Sudanese have fled to unstable areas in Chad, Ethiopia, and South Sudan, overrunning refugee camps. The UN continues to plead for more support as more than thirty million need humanitarian assistance, and deteriorating food security risks are triggering the “world’s largest hunger crisis.”

Meanwhile, mediation efforts have failed to produce results as the leaders of the Sudanese Armed Forces (SAF) and Rapid Support Forces (RSF) refuse to halt their violence, and regional and international actors have taken sides in the war. As conditions deteriorate, the World Food Programme’s Carl Skau warned, “we are running out of time.”
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RealDiscussionNotHate · 08/10/2025 15:11

Central African Republic

"Since gaining independence in 1960, CAR has experienced decades of violence and instability, including six coups. Despite repeated efforts to attain peace and disarmament, an insurgency led by Seleka forces—a coalition of armed, primarily Muslim groups—seized the capital of Bangui and ousted the government of François Bozizé in 2013. In response to brutality by Seleka forces, “anti-balaka” coalitions of Christian fighters formed to launch violent attacks on Seleka fighters and Muslim civilians, provoking a renewed conflict that has killed and displaced thousands. Despite seven attempts at peace agreements between the government and non-state armed groups since 2012, Seleka and anti-balaka militias have only increased their activity and influence across the country, terrorizing civilians and clashing over control of mineral resources and migration routes. Due to the scale of the crisis, the UN Security Council established a peacekeeping force in April 2014 that incorporated African Union and French forces that had previously deployed to CAR. Meanwhile, the humanitarian crisis in CAR continues to worsen, with around 70 percent of the population living in extreme poverty and around 3.4 million people in need of assistance. Spillover from neighboring Sudan’s civil war has also exacerbated the conflict, with reports of air raids and the recruitment of CAR fighters by Sudanese forces contributing to ongoing violence and instability."

There are so many nations now struggling with terrorism.

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EasternStandard · 08/10/2025 15:07

TonTonMacoute · 08/10/2025 14:51

OP is quite correct.

The Islamist agenda, as embodied by the theocratic regime in Iran, wants a world caliphate. This is not a secret they are quite open about this aim.

This cannot happen until every Jew in the world has been slaughtered, and after that every other non-Muslim. Convert or die.

It is a psychopathic death cult, even the main Arab countries don't want this, and people need to wake up and smell the Islamist coffee, unless they are happy to live in a world like Iran.

Terrible. Not much discussion on it.

RealDiscussionNotHate · 08/10/2025 15:04

The rise in terrorism in a large part of Africa affects us all in the UK or Europe since people fleeing from the extremists have to go somewhere.

I know there is little appetite for interference from Western nations so I guess everyone sits back and watches as larger areas are taken over by more radical extremists and more people flee those areas until what? Keep out of it? Help out the moderate people? No idea but is a problem for our children and grandchildren so we could just kick it down the road for them to sort out.

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RealDiscussionNotHate · 08/10/2025 14:59

May I ask the 29% who doesn't think the global spread of radical extremism is a problem why it isn't? Or perhaps YABU for a completely different reason.

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RealDiscussionNotHate · 08/10/2025 14:58

TonTonMacoute · 08/10/2025 14:51

OP is quite correct.

The Islamist agenda, as embodied by the theocratic regime in Iran, wants a world caliphate. This is not a secret they are quite open about this aim.

This cannot happen until every Jew in the world has been slaughtered, and after that every other non-Muslim. Convert or die.

It is a psychopathic death cult, even the main Arab countries don't want this, and people need to wake up and smell the Islamist coffee, unless they are happy to live in a world like Iran.

It's growing and not being taken seriously enough. Moderate people of all religions/cultures/ etc do not want this but once the extremists take over areas it's very hard to push back, as is seen in parts of Africa now.

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TonTonMacoute · 08/10/2025 14:51

OP is quite correct.

The Islamist agenda, as embodied by the theocratic regime in Iran, wants a world caliphate. This is not a secret they are quite open about this aim.

This cannot happen until every Jew in the world has been slaughtered, and after that every other non-Muslim. Convert or die.

It is a psychopathic death cult, even the main Arab countries don't want this, and people need to wake up and smell the Islamist coffee, unless they are happy to live in a world like Iran.

RealDiscussionNotHate · 08/10/2025 14:27

smallglassbottle · 08/10/2025 14:21

There is no way of stopping it. Google the Barcelona Agreement 1995. This was planned many years ago and it's only going to get worse.

A common area of peace and stability. I'm not sure how that contributes to the rise of worldwide Islamic terrorist organisation. Could you share what link you think that has to the rise in Worldwide radical Islamist groups?

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smallglassbottle · 08/10/2025 14:21

There is no way of stopping it. Google the Barcelona Agreement 1995. This was planned many years ago and it's only going to get worse.

RealDiscussionNotHate · 08/10/2025 14:18

Cecilly · 08/10/2025 12:02

Hisbollah may be defined by western countries as a “terrorist” group but the majority of Lebanese feel differently. They emerged in the ‘80s after the Israelis invaded and occupied huge swathes of territory in Lebanon up to and including Beirut. They still occupy the south of Lebanon. Hisbollah has never in it’s history attacked any country other than Israel. They would view themselves as defending their homeland and trying to push back the Israelis from southern Lebanon. I think that view is fair, and that any country occupied by another (like Ukraine) has a right and obligation to defend itself.

How many people in Lebanon agree with Hezbollah? The Shiites but a bit unfortunate if you are Sunni. As you say many in the country may not view it as a terrorist organisation but if it attacks other countries then perhaps the worldwide definition applies? I don't make the definitions. If Israel wasn't attacked by Hezbollah then Israel wouldn't attack back or vice versus if you have the other viewpoint - so if both Israel and the organisation of Hezbollah stopped attacking each other - Hezbollah isn't the actual government of the Lebanon.

"Hezbollah is considered a terrorist organization by the United States and many other countries, and has deep-rooted military alliances with repressive, anti-Israel regimes in Iran and Syria. Cross-border clashes between Hezbollah and Israel escalated in recent years, particularly amid Israel’s ongoing war with Hamas in the Gaza Strip that broke out last year. In a major intensification of its battle with Hezbollah, in late 2024 Israel killed long time leader Hassan Nasrallah, and launched a ground offensive against the group in southern Lebanon". It's is Iranian back. Iran backs many 'terrorist organisations'. It is a Shiite Muslim party so not so great for Suni Muslims (they matter too). You probably know that "Hezbollah publicly confirmed its involvement in the Syrian Civil War in 2013, and it sent some seven thousand militants to assist Iranian and Russian forces in supporting the Syrian government against largely Sunni rebel groups". So again not great if you are Sunni Muslim - many would say they shouldn't be killed either but it doesn't really gather much publicity though.

I wouldn't pop them on my Christmas list

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RealDiscussionNotHate · 08/10/2025 14:08

PurpleChrayn · 08/10/2025 11:43

Well, a good start would be to realise that radical Islamic groups don’t want to “get on” with everyone else. They want to murder us and spread radical Islam. Best plan is not to harbour them in the UK.

The thing is they are already here and when they are British then they have the right to live here and be dealt with here. It's a problem that needs dealing with. Hence the programme to spread awareness and for everyone to support suspicious behaviour. There are many signs and if everyone is more vigilant that perhaps more future attacks might be prevented?

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Cecilly · 08/10/2025 12:02

Hisbollah may be defined by western countries as a “terrorist” group but the majority of Lebanese feel differently. They emerged in the ‘80s after the Israelis invaded and occupied huge swathes of territory in Lebanon up to and including Beirut. They still occupy the south of Lebanon. Hisbollah has never in it’s history attacked any country other than Israel. They would view themselves as defending their homeland and trying to push back the Israelis from southern Lebanon. I think that view is fair, and that any country occupied by another (like Ukraine) has a right and obligation to defend itself.

PurpleChrayn · 08/10/2025 11:43

Well, a good start would be to realise that radical Islamic groups don’t want to “get on” with everyone else. They want to murder us and spread radical Islam. Best plan is not to harbour them in the UK.

RealDiscussionNotHate · 08/10/2025 11:38

I've leave it here now and not keep posting. It is something that some people are aware of, others not so much, some totally uninterested in, some choose to ignore and leave to counter terrorism and police, it is growing though and perhaps we can help by being watchful around how people present themselves.

Thoughts are with victims of terrorism whatever part of the world they may live in.

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RealDiscussionNotHate · 08/10/2025 11:36

India:

Terrorism in India is due to two old problems, which are not as old as India itself. One is the latent separatism in some states that were once autonomous and independent kingdoms. The other cause is the age-old friction between Muslim and Hindu factions.

They are trying to tackle the problem: What are the measures taken by India to face challenges of terrorism?

Amendments to the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act, 1967 in 2008 and 2012 to strengthen the punitive measures to combat terrorism. The creation of the National Investigation Agency under the National Investigation Agency Act, 2008 to investigate and prosecute offences under the Acts specified in its Schedule.

Lost of countries are struggling with the rise in terrorism and taking various measures to tackle the growing problem.

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RealDiscussionNotHate · 08/10/2025 11:34

SOME DETAILS ABOUT PROSCRIBE ORGANISATIONS AND WHAT IS MEANS TO SUPPORT THEM

Proscription offences
Proscription makes it a criminal offence to:

  • belong, or profess to belong, to a proscribed organisation in the UK or overseas (section 11 of the act)
  • invite support for a proscribed organisation (the support invited need not be material support, such as the provision of money or other property, and can also include moral support or approval) (section 12(1))
  • express an opinion or belief that is supportive of a proscribed organisation, reckless as to whether a person to whom the expression is directed will be encouraged to support a proscribed organisation (section 12(1A))
  • arrange, manage or assist in arranging or managing a meeting in the knowledge that the meeting is to support or further the activities of a proscribed organisation, or is to be addressed by a person who belongs or professes to belong to a proscribed organisation (section 12(2)); or to address a meeting if the purpose of the address is to encourage support for, or further the activities of, a proscribed organisation (section 12(3))
  • wear clothing or carry or display articles in public in such a way or in such circumstances as to arouse reasonable suspicion that the individual is a member or supporter of a proscribed organisation (section 13)
  • publish an image of an item of clothing or other article, such as a flag or logo, in the same circumstances (section 13(1A))
What are the penalties for a proscription offence? The penalties for proscription offences under sections 11 and 12 are a maximum of 14 years in prison and/or a fine. The maximum penalty for a section 13 offence is 6 months in prison and/or a fine not exceeding £5,000. Do the proscription offences apply to all designated and proscribed organisations? No, the proscription offences set out in sections 11 to 13 of the Terrorism Act 2000 (as amended by the Counter Terrorism and Border Security Act 2019) apply in relation to proscribed organisations i.e. those specified in Schedule 2 to the Terrorism Act 2000. These offences do not apply in relation to groups subject to other designation or sanction regimes such as an asset freeze in the UK as a result of a UN Al Qa’ida, EU CP 931 or UK domestic, asset freeze unless that entity is also proscribed in the UK. How does proscription help disrupt terrorism? In addition to the proscription offences, proscription can support other disruptive activity including the use of immigration powers such as exclusion, prosecution for other offences, encouraging removal of on-line material, messaging and EU asset freezes. The resources of a proscribed organisation are terrorist property and are, therefore, liable to be seized.
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RealDiscussionNotHate · 08/10/2025 11:33

Holluschickie · 08/10/2025 11:31

You have left out India. Which has been struggling with Islamist attacks for years.

I'm sorry - the growth of radical organisations worldwide is huge. India is also struggling.

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Holluschickie · 08/10/2025 11:31

RealDiscussionNotHate · 08/10/2025 11:22

Countries with radical extremists groups
Yeman – The Houthis
Lebanon – Hezbollah
Al-Qaeda: Has a global presence, with core activities and affiliates operating in the Middle East, Africa (particularly North Africa and the Sahel), and parts of Asia.
Islamic State (IS) / ISIL: This is the world's deadliest terrorist group, with its core and numerous affiliates active in Iraq, Syria, and across many countries in Africa, Asia, and beyond.
Hamas: Primarily focused on the Palestinian territories, though it has also had its military wing proscribed by the UK government.
Boko Haram: Active in Nigeria and neighboring countries in West Africa, where it has launched widespread attacks.
Afghan Taliban: A major force in Afghanistan.
Lords Resistance Army (LRA): Operates in Central Africa.
Jama'at Nusrat al-Islam wal Muslimeen (JNIM) & Islamic State in the Greater Sahara (ISGS): These are examples of groups exploiting instability in the Sahel region of West Africa.

You have left out India. Which has been struggling with Islamist attacks for years.

RealDiscussionNotHate · 08/10/2025 11:30

I believe as others do that it is on all of us to work together to provide factual information and support to people who may be at risk of becoming radicalised and then might go onto actually carrying out an act of terrorism.

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