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Very religious colleague

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ThatLadyLady · 08/10/2025 06:46

I have a new colleague who is young, and very very religious. He isn’t quiet about his beliefs and in some ways I think that’s great, because he feels comfortable enough to be that way.

But in others it’s becoming quite uncomfortable. He will regularly ask people in the office what their opinion is on things like evolution, abortion and gay marriage. If they express a “non-Christian” belief he will laugh, tell them they’re wrong and explain what the bible says about these things. He won’t drop the subject even if people are visibly uncomfortable.

We listen to music in the office and he will object to almost anything that isn’t worship music. Someone played Sam Fender the other day (the consensus amongst the office was that it was a good playlist and we all enjoyed it), he asked for it to be changed because he doesn’t align with “Christian values”. So they switched on a different playlist, the first song was an Olivia Dean song and he started ranting about how she promotes sexual activity outside of marriage and that it’s wrong, women should be waiting until marriage etc.

He also expresses pretty strong views about women dating and it not being for marriage, that it’s “great” he has so many young female colleagues but he thinks we should be looking for marriage and to be a homemaker, etc etc.

I obviously don’t dispute his right to have these views, even if I disagree with them it’s his right. But would I be unreasonable to mention it to my manager quietly because his constant expression of these feelings is becoming quite uncomfortable?

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Hankunamatata · 08/10/2025 17:12

'He will regularly ask people in the office what their opinion is on things like evolution, abortion and gay marriage.'

Literally your only response should be 'its not appropriate to discuss those topics in the workplace'

PurpleSky300 · 08/10/2025 16:55

He needs to STFU or leave, nobody comes to work to listen to that. I once had a manager who was a very strict Muslim and although he didn't comment anything to me, he was very harsh on other Muslim colleagues and would pull them up on their clothing, whether they listened to music, lifestyle stuff where they weren't meeting 'standards' etc. It's uncalled for and it needs to be shut down.

LBFseBrom · 08/10/2025 16:49

LancashireButterPie · 08/10/2025 16:35

I once heard an appalling homophobic rant at work from a "Christian". As the mother of a Gay DC I felt I couldn't let that lie and complained to HR.
HR's perspective was that he is entitled to his beliefs and can share these. I was utterly horrified at that. A person's beliefs should not trump another's lived reality.
To me, it's hate speech and religions are not supposed to be about hate.

I quite agree and wish more firms would enforce a 'no proselytising' rule at work.

I worked for the NHS and once witnessed a nurse evangelising to an Israeli doctor who was in our department for six months, lovely chap and great fun. They were both in my office at the time and she was going on about how it was "...all in the Bible, read Revelation....", without any regard to, or sensitivity towards, his Jewish faith. He was looking at her quite open mouthed with incredulity.
I intervened, told her it was not the time nor (her) place and that we were not allowed to evangelise at work. However we were definitely not allowed to, so I would have had HR backing had it been necessary. It didn't happen again to my knowledge.

LancashireButterPie · 08/10/2025 16:35

I once heard an appalling homophobic rant at work from a "Christian". As the mother of a Gay DC I felt I couldn't let that lie and complained to HR.
HR's perspective was that he is entitled to his beliefs and can share these. I was utterly horrified at that. A person's beliefs should not trump another's lived reality.
To me, it's hate speech and religions are not supposed to be about hate.

Joeylove88 · 08/10/2025 16:33

Alot of what you said also just sounds really misogynistic and not much to do with being a christian...very focused on what women should or shouldn't be doing. He needs to keep his mouth shut and his views to himself. Dont be afraid to call him up on his BS.

ThatLadyLady · 08/10/2025 16:32

LillyPJ · 08/10/2025 15:22

Definitely not. I love music. But I do object to bring forced to listen to music I don't Iike or don't want. If I want to listen to music, I'll buy a concert ticket, use headphones or play it at home. I don't subject others to my choices.

Do totally get this POV, but the rest of the office is all happy with it and it’s not overwhelming. Just quiet background noise

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WeNeedToTalkAboutIT · 08/10/2025 16:31

You really do need to speak to your manager. It's not sufficient that they "don't have time" for this, it's part of their job!

I'd go for the protected characteristics under the Equality Act angle. He is entitled to not be discriminated against due to his recognised religion (Christianity), but in controlling everything form the music to conversation and whether or not somebody eats a god damn snack in the workplace is causing the workplace to be hostile to anybody whose religious views do not agree with his (including Atheists, because atheism also counts as a protected characteristic). He can still have his rights under the EA met without insisting that everybody else adheres to his rules and therefore loses theirs.

ShesNeverSeenAShadeOfGray · 08/10/2025 16:29

I would be parked in front of HR filing a formal complaint.

LeopardPants · 08/10/2025 16:26

ThatLadyLady · 08/10/2025 13:02

I snapped back at him this morning. We had the radio on and a Sabrina carpenter song came on. Yes, it’s not the most appropriate for the workplace, but we have no control over what song comes on next. He was saying how she is living in sin and encourages sin amongst young women. I told him to shut up, that we don’t care and don’t all live to his ideals. The manager in today sort of raised her eyebrow and then laughed and went back to her work.

Good for you - he sounds very irritating, surprised no one has told him to fuck off.

We had a similar (but not quite as vocal) experience with a colleague - he has toned it down now thankfully. You don’t go to work to feel judged. I bet no one is telling him to chill out and go shagging around to enjoy himself!

JadziaD · 08/10/2025 16:23

It's not evangelical. Evangelical would be trying to convince eeryone else that Jesus loves them and they should dcommit their lives.

He sounds conservative and judgementa, and I wouldn't be putting up with any of this. Speaking to management is good and the right thing. But I'd have been rolling my eyes and being far more direct long before, "haha Jack, you can't tell me what to do with my body but I hope you find a woman wh is appropriately pure for you" etc,

Redpeach · 08/10/2025 16:21

MaskAndMartini · 08/10/2025 07:14

Put up a sign saying:

Please do not bring your whole self to work.

Or holy self

Bigcat25 · 08/10/2025 16:19

Aside from the religious element he's completely out of line to bring up such personal topics as abortion. It's potentially upsetting and a distraction for people trying to work. He may have a case for lyricless music though.

Bananaandmangosmoothie · 08/10/2025 16:19

He sounds insufferable. Not appropriate for the workplace at all.

Juniperberry55 · 08/10/2025 16:16

Iwasneverafan · 08/10/2025 16:14

“For Christ’s sake Dave, will you shut the fuck up! We’re not interested- brew anyone?”

How can you work in an office full of such spineless passives? This would do my head in. He’s walking all over everyone’s feelings and loving it - what a dick 🙄

Blasphemy and swearing in one sentence from a woman of all people 😂 his mind would implode

Iwasneverafan · 08/10/2025 16:14

“For Christ’s sake Dave, will you shut the fuck up! We’re not interested- brew anyone?”

How can you work in an office full of such spineless passives? This would do my head in. He’s walking all over everyone’s feelings and loving it - what a dick 🙄

nosleepforme · 08/10/2025 15:48

He’s got every right to his beliefs, and if the music is against that, go classical, or go headphones. But his religious beliefs/discussions are clearly not appreciated and therefore should be left completely out of the office in order to keep a respectful environment. Just like he has a right to his beliefs, so do you. And no one should have to feel uncomfortable.
Respect works both ways.

Juniperberry55 · 08/10/2025 15:24

LillyPJ · 08/10/2025 15:22

Definitely not. I love music. But I do object to bring forced to listen to music I don't Iike or don't want. If I want to listen to music, I'll buy a concert ticket, use headphones or play it at home. I don't subject others to my choices.

I don't subject people to my music choices either, listen to music on headphones if I'm public etc. but if a business has music playing in the background I wouldn't necessarily listen to myself I wouldn't call it offensive personally

LillyPJ · 08/10/2025 15:22

Juniperberry55 · 08/10/2025 15:10

Shall all music everywhere be banned? 😂

Definitely not. I love music. But I do object to bring forced to listen to music I don't Iike or don't want. If I want to listen to music, I'll buy a concert ticket, use headphones or play it at home. I don't subject others to my choices.

Algen · 08/10/2025 15:13

LillyPJ · 08/10/2025 15:08

I find music that 'doesn't offend anyone' very offensive - and pointless!

I struggle to think of many people who would be offended by a Bach Prelude - but they are definitely not pointless!

Juniperberry55 · 08/10/2025 15:10

LillyPJ · 08/10/2025 15:08

I find music that 'doesn't offend anyone' very offensive - and pointless!

Shall all music everywhere be banned? 😂

reversingdumptruckwithnotyreson · 08/10/2025 15:09

CatchingtheCat · 08/10/2025 12:48

You can have evangelical Catholics.

Yes, but there are evangelical Christians….. from the evangelical movement………….. which are notorious for this type of behaviour.

Catholics might evangelise, but they’re not part of the evangelical church. I’m not sure how to break this down even further so I’m just leaving it.

Periperi2025 · 08/10/2025 15:09

HoppingPavlova · 08/10/2025 07:08

He also expresses pretty strong views about women dating and it not being for marriage, that it’s “great” he has so many young female colleagues but he thinks we should be looking for marriage and to be a homemaker, etc etc

He doesn’t have any right to express these views in the workplace. I don’t know why you have been a wet lettuce putting up with this to date? This intolerable bullshit should have gone to HR at the first instance.

As for the radio, that’s a bit different as he does have the right to express that the songs make him uncomfortable. Just as you would have the right to do likewise if he put his Christian playlist on. Do, on that front, the only real solution is silence going forward🫤.

I think he only has the right to judge that the lyrics of a song makes him uncomfortable, not the moral worth HE places on the artist signing the song.

LillyPJ · 08/10/2025 15:08

Juniperberry55 · 08/10/2025 14:17

And I brought up about music in shops as someone suggested music could only be played if they pick stuff which doesn't offend anyone. I was pointing out that there is music played publicly that is generally non offensive, where he would potentially have to encounter it. Tough
If he was disabled obviously their could be a need for a reasonable adjustment. A man finding offence in everyday non offensive music isn't a disability therefore no reasonable adjustments required.
The world won't revolve around his misogynistic views

I find music that 'doesn't offend anyone' very offensive - and pointless!

Heyheyitsanotherday · 08/10/2025 14:50

I’d be furious with this op and probably have gotten in trouble myself for telling him my thoughts. He’s misogynistic at best. And regardless of his religious beliefs he needs to know it’s not acceptable to say what he is saying in a work environment. I would seriously take this further with management and hr. It is not ok. What if there is a member of you team who is gay/ had an abortion/ lives a life of sin he seems to think is ok to be judgemental about. He sounds a total dick and he cannot act like this

LBFseBrom · 08/10/2025 14:50

When I was working (I'm retired), nobody was allowed to discuss their personal religious beliefs in work time. I thought that was a general rule for the workplace, though not strictly illegal. Please try to enforce it.

Your colleague is young and zealous but needs to realise work is not for proselytising, it makes people uncomfortable and there will be people who do not share his faith, or at least not his take on it, who believe something different or nothing at all. Whatever he feels, they are all equal.

What matters at work is that people do their job and generally rub along with each other.

This guy could find himself in trouble if anyone complains about him; imo (and I am a Christian), that would be correct.

He needs to learn that there is a time and place for everything.

Do you have a good HR staff member who could have a word with him?