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To feel like the tide of public opinion has turned against the pro-palestine protestors

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JKLolling · 07/10/2025 21:36

Every social media feed I have is full of irate people commenting on pro-gaza protestors.

From people commenting on Greta Thunberg sharing the picture of the starving hostage and claiming it was a Palestinian (wtf was she thinking?!) , to the student saying Israelis should 'go back where they came from', there are thousands of angry comments. Lots of the protestors hiding their faces too, and on a local Uni group people are trying to name the protestors seen today and get them removed from their courses

I'm disgusted with what I've seen today, and it feels like the tide is turning and people are seeing these protests for what they really are: an opportunity for hate-filled morons to get together and intimidate people. I feel like they've completely ruined their cause just because they couldn't wait a day to protest.

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Livelovebehappy · 08/10/2025 00:36

CrossChecking · 08/10/2025 00:29

I'm not British, I don't live in the UK it isn't up to me to tell you guys what to care about. I just observe and my observations are that unlike your claim many don't seem concerned by what is happening there at all.

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But you feel strongly enough to comment on it. You don’t have to actually live here to post on MN about concerns about something you’ve read. You seem pretty vocal about the subject, and obviously concerned enough to source information and figures, so I don’t understand why you didn’t post about it at the time. It’s a bit of a cop out to say you didn’t feel it was your place to start a post on it, when here you are…...posting about it.

CrossChecking · 08/10/2025 00:36

PreciousTatas · 08/10/2025 00:32

How can you be so out of touch?

No one cares anymore about actor activists, rolled eyes is the extent of emotion these colossal tits ellicit in the vast majority.

Pretty much any cause they get behind is bound to fail. Trans activism, American politics.. what cause have they helped?

Boycotting did great things for South Africa. Cultural boycotts were part of that.

PreciousTatas · 08/10/2025 00:32

How can you be so out of touch?

No one cares anymore about actor activists, rolled eyes is the extent of emotion these colossal tits ellicit in the vast majority.

Pretty much any cause they get behind is bound to fail. Trans activism, American politics.. what cause have they helped?

noblegiraffe · 08/10/2025 00:31

Strangerthanfictions · 08/10/2025 00:23

This. There is nothing NOT one thing that could convince me that two years of systemic starving of innocent men women and children in the most barbaric ways the world has seen in modern times can be justified. There is nothing to justify ethnic cleansing and collective punishment. Europe is on fire with protests millions of people taking to the streets constantly, the world knows this is wrong unfortunately those in power know but have other agendas and are choosing bombs over babies

What's weird is that there is a peace deal on the table and ceasefire negotiations going on right now and instead of protesting for acceptance of this ceasefire deal, there are mobs on the streets of Spain waving Palestinian flags and smashing up McDonald's.

https://x.com/persianjewess/status/1975191114174046521?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g

The Persian Jewess (@persianjewess) on X

“Free Palestine” protests in Spain over the weekend. They seem like such peaceful and totally non violent people. 🙄

https://x.com/persianjewess/status/1975191114174046521?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g

Livelovebehappy · 08/10/2025 00:30

Strangerthanfictions · 08/10/2025 00:23

This. There is nothing NOT one thing that could convince me that two years of systemic starving of innocent men women and children in the most barbaric ways the world has seen in modern times can be justified. There is nothing to justify ethnic cleansing and collective punishment. Europe is on fire with protests millions of people taking to the streets constantly, the world knows this is wrong unfortunately those in power know but have other agendas and are choosing bombs over babies

And all because Hamas wouldn’t release the few remaining hostages they have. They’re now close to agreeing their release, but how many life’s would have been saved had they released them 18 months ago. Hamas started this. If people think it was Israel’s intention to wipe out Palestines all along, then Hamas handed an excuse for them to do so on a plate. They even contributed to the starving of their people by intercepting food. All on Hamas I’m afraid..

Andouillette · 08/10/2025 00:30

CrossChecking · 08/10/2025 00:15

That's weird people haven't seemed too concerned about the attacks on Muslims in their own country. Barely a peep about them.

I remember back when that 17yo was in court a month or so ago for planning a terrorist attack in a mosque, he was caught with aerosols and an air gun outside a mosque, he had planned to set fire to the building, killing any worshippers inside and there was nothing on mumsnet about it. The boy had spoken online about how white people were at "war" and that he would "die for my land", seems like something people should have been concerned about. No outpouring of support for the Muslim community there though.

For people who are so concerned you are very quiet about it. Here is just a few from the past month, I must have missed the outrage about these.

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I was extremely concerned about the Mosque attack and very grateful that nobody was hurt, unlike Manchester. I am also very pleased that the police have already made an arrest. It does not alter my feelings about anything else or my fundamental belief that all people should be able to attend their chosen place of worship without fear.

CrossChecking · 08/10/2025 00:29

Livelovebehappy · 08/10/2025 00:22

Well why didn’t you start a thread on it when it happened? Clearly didn’t think it important or relevant enough to mention it yourself. Were you waiting for someone else to post? There are threatened attacks every single day against Jews - its so bad that synagogues and Jewish schools have to employ security for protection.

I'm not British, I don't live in the UK it isn't up to me to tell you guys what to care about. I just observe and my observations are that unlike your claim many don't seem concerned by what is happening there at all.

2021x · 08/10/2025 00:26

It is possible to be shocked and appauled by the treatment of Palastine by the Israeli state, AND be appaulled of the awful crime in the synagogue.

We don't have to take sides we can support a cease fire, and aid into Gaza/Palastine.

There will always be awful people that will use any cause or narrative to behave in terrible ways.

Strangerthanfictions · 08/10/2025 00:23

Hedgehogbrown · 07/10/2025 21:41

It's not a competition though is it? You can be pro Palestine and still think that what Hamas did was fucking vile and horrible. If you can't see that then it's you who is the hate filled moron. Killing innocent civilians and taking them hostage is never justified and no one normal thinks it is. A genocide is never justified and no one will ever think it is.

This. There is nothing NOT one thing that could convince me that two years of systemic starving of innocent men women and children in the most barbaric ways the world has seen in modern times can be justified. There is nothing to justify ethnic cleansing and collective punishment. Europe is on fire with protests millions of people taking to the streets constantly, the world knows this is wrong unfortunately those in power know but have other agendas and are choosing bombs over babies

Livelovebehappy · 08/10/2025 00:22

CrossChecking · 08/10/2025 00:15

That's weird people haven't seemed too concerned about the attacks on Muslims in their own country. Barely a peep about them.

I remember back when that 17yo was in court a month or so ago for planning a terrorist attack in a mosque, he was caught with aerosols and an air gun outside a mosque, he had planned to set fire to the building, killing any worshippers inside and there was nothing on mumsnet about it. The boy had spoken online about how white people were at "war" and that he would "die for my land", seems like something people should have been concerned about. No outpouring of support for the Muslim community there though.

For people who are so concerned you are very quiet about it. Here is just a few from the past month, I must have missed the outrage about these.

(the pic will take a few minutes to load)

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Well why didn’t you start a thread on it when it happened? Clearly didn’t think it important or relevant enough to mention it yourself. Were you waiting for someone else to post? There are threatened attacks every single day against Jews - its so bad that synagogues and Jewish schools have to employ security for protection.

CrossChecking · 08/10/2025 00:22

overwhelmedsinglema · 08/10/2025 00:01

@CrossCheckinghas it really though? Can you please list all links to everything you cited! These protests always seem big when taking aerial footage in the city! But turnabouts in comparison to population are tiny!

government’s are recognising Palestine but also if you notice, they aren’t going out of their way to stop Israel. A few big celebs have spoken out, but I haven’t heard of anything in Hollywood that’s rocked the boat! Perhaps the biggest high profile action is the flotilla that Greta was a part of. In fact, why don’t some of these celebs turn up at the borders of Gaza? I’m not sure I’ve seen one?

Dude it's after midnight. Google for yourself, here are a few links to get you started. https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/sep/08/film-pledge-israeli-institutions-palestinians

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/economy/article/2025/08/20/norway-s-sovereign-wealth-fund-to-divest-from-six-israeli-companies_6744542_19.html

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hundreds-thousands-protest-amsterdam-against-gaza-war-2025-10-05/

https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2025/0908/1532351-spain-israel/

Actors and directors pledge not to work with Israeli film groups ‘implicated in genocide’

Exclusive: Thousands of film workers join new boycott initiative criticized by Israeli producers’ group as ‘misguided’

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/sep/08/film-pledge-israeli-institutions-palestinians

Andouillette · 08/10/2025 00:17

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No. Are you hard of thinking? Empathy for Jewish people. But perhaps you are one of those who cannot separate Israeli Government/Israelis/Jewish people generally. They are not all the same thing, just in case you hadn't realised

CrossChecking · 08/10/2025 00:15

Livelovebehappy · 08/10/2025 00:03

Yep. But today they could only muster ‘hundreds’ of protestors on the streets in the UK. A bit of a damp squib really wasn’t it? Thing is, people are unhappy about their ‘war’ being brought to our doorstep, evidenced by Thursday’s attack of a synagogue. We’re not interested. The majority of us are more concerned with what’s happening in our own country currently, rather than whether or not we’re selling arms to a country defending themselves from a terrorist group.

That's weird people haven't seemed too concerned about the attacks on Muslims in their own country. Barely a peep about them.

I remember back when that 17yo was in court a month or so ago for planning a terrorist attack in a mosque, he was caught with aerosols and an air gun outside a mosque, he had planned to set fire to the building, killing any worshippers inside and there was nothing on mumsnet about it. The boy had spoken online about how white people were at "war" and that he would "die for my land", seems like something people should have been concerned about. No outpouring of support for the Muslim community there though.

For people who are so concerned you are very quiet about it. Here is just a few from the past month, I must have missed the outrage about these.

(the pic will take a few minutes to load)

To feel like the tide of public opinion has turned against the pro-palestine protestors
BlakeCarrington · 08/10/2025 00:13

noblegiraffe · 07/10/2025 23:12

Yeah I think they shat themselves dancing and 'protesting' after two Jews were murdered, then shat themselves again by continuing with the weekend protest despite being asked not to to free up police resources to protect Jewish spaces, then shat themselves again by deliberately protesting on the anniversary of October 7th.

Normal people think that these are not reasonable actions.

I couldn’t agree more.

Daygloboo · 08/10/2025 00:09

DevillesAdvocate · 07/10/2025 21:56

This is just the latest luxury belief iteration.

Most of the protestors couldn’t point to Palestine or Gaza on a map.

I hope the Police do actually follow through with convictions as many of the left wing, middle class, entitled white people taking part will be shocked when they have to declare their convictions to employers and car/home insurers.

The protestors have no idea of what they’re actually protesting about, they’re anti-semitic, end of.

So if you are white and middle class, you are not allowed to protest about anything because you can't be anything other than a privileged virtue signaller?. Don t be so daft.

noblegiraffe · 08/10/2025 00:08

overwhelmedsinglema · 08/10/2025 00:01

@CrossCheckinghas it really though? Can you please list all links to everything you cited! These protests always seem big when taking aerial footage in the city! But turnabouts in comparison to population are tiny!

government’s are recognising Palestine but also if you notice, they aren’t going out of their way to stop Israel. A few big celebs have spoken out, but I haven’t heard of anything in Hollywood that’s rocked the boat! Perhaps the biggest high profile action is the flotilla that Greta was a part of. In fact, why don’t some of these celebs turn up at the borders of Gaza? I’m not sure I’ve seen one?

They tried to but got lost. This is their route, and that is not where Rafah is.

They literally couldn’t find Gaza on a map.

To feel like the tide of public opinion has turned against the pro-palestine protestors
BewaretheIckabog · 08/10/2025 00:05

overwhelmedsinglema · 07/10/2025 23:52

@BewaretheIckabogyou summed it up perfectly! Collective outrage for something many know so little about. Who is funding all this activism and fuelling these fires?

It’s opened my eyes to anti -semitism and the extermination of all Jewish people being the biggest motivator.

If I felt safe to go on a march saying ‘End Hamas and End the Israeli bombings’ I would.

When will people wake up and see Hamas are further away from a two state solution than Israel and there a good reason why Egypt and the Arab nations are less vocal than misguided middle-class liberal Europeans in support?

Livelovebehappy · 08/10/2025 00:03

CrossChecking · 07/10/2025 23:56

The tide is turning but not how you rhink. Pro Palestine protests are spreading like wildfire. The protests around the world this week have been amazing. A quarter of a million people in Amsterdam, a quarter of a million in Italy, 160000 in Spain. The free Palestine movement is growing with every child starved and every bomb dropped. Governments are listening Palestinian recognition, bans on trade with Israeli firms in the OPT, wealth funds divesting from Israeli companies, 1000s of actors, directors and film makers boycotting Israel film groups implicated in genocide and on and on it goes. The tide has certainly turned.

Yep. But today they could only muster ‘hundreds’ of protestors on the streets in the UK. A bit of a damp squib really wasn’t it? Thing is, people are unhappy about their ‘war’ being brought to our doorstep, evidenced by Thursday’s attack of a synagogue. We’re not interested. The majority of us are more concerned with what’s happening in our own country currently, rather than whether or not we’re selling arms to a country defending themselves from a terrorist group.

overwhelmedsinglema · 08/10/2025 00:03

@saltererwhat is your opinion of Hamas?

lazyarse123 · 08/10/2025 00:01

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And attitudes like this are why it will never be solved. Like most wars this one is run by the government's of both states not the innocent civilians who have been slaughtered, raped and every other disgusting thing they've both done. I absolutely condemn Netanyahu for what he's doing but i also condemn Hamas for raping and mutilating men, women and children. Do I blame the people who live in these countries? No i don't.

overwhelmedsinglema · 08/10/2025 00:01

@CrossCheckinghas it really though? Can you please list all links to everything you cited! These protests always seem big when taking aerial footage in the city! But turnabouts in comparison to population are tiny!

government’s are recognising Palestine but also if you notice, they aren’t going out of their way to stop Israel. A few big celebs have spoken out, but I haven’t heard of anything in Hollywood that’s rocked the boat! Perhaps the biggest high profile action is the flotilla that Greta was a part of. In fact, why don’t some of these celebs turn up at the borders of Gaza? I’m not sure I’ve seen one?

Livelovebehappy · 07/10/2025 23:56

Wakeuplittlebunnies · 07/10/2025 23:48

On the contrary. The celebs speaking out, the UK recognition of Palestine, the evidence. It’s all stacking up.

Celebs? Seriously? They’re clueless. They just jump on the current trend, usually to protect their careers. They usually don’t reflect the opinions of the none celebs - they don’t even know what a woman is fgs, but seem to collectively bleat about trans rights. And of course the UK government support a Palestinian state. It’s Labour we’re talking about, who have rogue anti semitics in their party and are the ones to the far left who are now Starmer’s puppet masters. Bit of a poor ‘scraping the barrel’ argument…

CrossChecking · 07/10/2025 23:56

Livelovebehappy · 07/10/2025 23:39

Not a competition, but come on. Today’s the anniversary of innocent young music festival goers being kidnapped, raped, murdered, and no-one knows whether the ones not released are dead or alive. It’s a day for them to mourn. Yet pro Palestinians thought it a good idea to try to hijack the day by having marches. Why? The day is if no relevance to them whatsoever, other than their leaders decided to instigate a war on that day. It smacks of a celebration of what happened, like trying to minimise what the families have been put through since that day. And now it’s backfiring, because people now see these protestors for who they are. Very unpleasant vile individuals. The tide’s turning…

The tide is turning but not how you rhink. Pro Palestine protests are spreading like wildfire. The protests around the world this week have been amazing. A quarter of a million people in Amsterdam, a quarter of a million in Italy, 160000 in Spain. The free Palestine movement is growing with every child starved and every bomb dropped. Governments are listening Palestinian recognition, bans on trade with Israeli firms in the OPT, wealth funds divesting from Israeli companies, 1000s of actors, directors and film makers boycotting Israel film groups implicated in genocide and on and on it goes. The tide has certainly turned.

PurpleAxe · 07/10/2025 23:56

Yep.

We were discussing what the next nonsense they will be supporting is.

Like any of these morons give an actual fuck about Palestine or Palestinians.

They are the same fuckwits who shout at women speaking.

Fuck them all. Governments need to get a proper grip before people actually have had enough and the real far right they are afraid of get a proper foot hold.

Every insult, every inconvenience, every threat, and every blind eye makes the Right just that little bit more attractive, and you are a fool if you can't see it.

Mimph · 07/10/2025 23:55

I hope that the tide has turned as over the last year and a half it seems that anyone who did not support calls for a free Palestine were silenced, it was almost impossible to hold a debate as the views were shouted down. I think the last week has shown the ugly side of some of those protesting a significant number seeming to be anti semetic

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