To feel like the tide of public opinion has turned against the pro-palestine protestors

What is the Palestinian cause exactly

The tide is not turning against the pro Palestinian movement- far from it, millions across the globe support the Palestinian cause and will never see things the same way again after this last two years of slaughter.
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Here are the names of the over 18000 children known to have been slaughtered. Please read them all. List of children
When journalists go in to Gaza the world will see even more the horrors enacted

I think you need to be careful here.

"Support from the public has drained away" - support for whom? I don't think there has been widespread support from the public for Hamas at any point in the last two years, so that hasn't drained away. I also don't think most people have changed their minds about Israel's actions in Gaza being disproportionate and at least tantamount to genocide, so public support for Palestinian people in general is still there.

What has changed is perhaps support for the protestors, who showed themselves to be so very insensitive by timing protests so disgustingly.

Oh, and did you really write "in all ways they are very different as a race"? Hmm. Do you think that might be a bit, I don't know, racist? I mean, how can it not be?

And support now from the public has drained away.

Unfortunately death cults like Hamas do not value human life. The people of Palestine are being used as pawns - Hamas considers them to be martyrs for the cause. Their suffering is irrelevant. That is a very difficult starting point for any country trying to broker a peace deal of any kind wouldn’t you say?

I have spent a lot of time in the ME and culturally, historically and in all ways they are very different as a race. The values are very different, even basic values and outlooks. A lot of work will need to be done to bridge the gap. Raising the living standard in Palestine would be a good start and an internationally recognised state. A healthy government willing to work for the people.

Israel is demonised for defending itself...and for being a single Jewish homeland and civilised...surrounded by failed states where women are treated horribly and gays are murdered. I'm so sick of the accusation of genocide...Hamas use their own people as human shields, and the lack of birth control means that every house is packed with people and kids...they literally crave the death of children as martyrs in a propaganda war that has drawn in left wing libs who are ignorant of history. Why won't Hamas allow civilians to shelter in their tunnels. They want civilians deaths. Israel is blamed for being better armed and determined to defend the one Jewish state...One...And the sickos who celebrated Oct 7th are disgusting people who deserve to be deported. You hate Jews and use Gaza as an excuse and free Palestine as a means to give your empty middle class lives meaning. There are so many horrific wars around the world but it's ok if north Africans murder and rape black Africans...you don't care...but if Western allies go after evil psychopaths then that's a trigger for virtue signalling idiots. Gaza marches are about Islamist antisemitism...Uni students have such low IQ that they don't realise that they are just useful fools for terrorists. I wish Israel would wipe Hamas out then we'd never have to hear about them again.

I'm horrified by the way Israel has behaved and is behaving towards Palestinians in Gaza and also in the West Bank. I also think the pro-Palestine protests a week after the Manchester synagogue attach or even more so on the 7th October were a mistake though. It came across as really unpleasant and so, so ill-judged. You're never going to win people over by looking like you're celebrating such things.

What's mad is that people think if you are pissed off with people supporting terrorists on the streets of the UK you must be pro-Israel.

Why are people so black and white in their thinking?

It is entirely possible to be appalled at what Israel are doing and also appalled at people being pro-Hamas in the UK.

Leave alone the UK the tide is turning among Israelis, lol. Pissing myself laughing at the posters earnestly insisting that the UK is turning pro genocide.

https://x.com/SilentlySirs/status/1975728073585656012

It’s the same in the UK.

I can't comment on public opinion in the UK but where I live people are more and more outraged at the genocide

@TicklishMauveSquid no, Netanyahu did not put Hamas in power, but he both actively and tacitly supported them and completely underestimated the risk they posed. And the reason he wanted a counterweight to the PLO was because he wanted to destroy any option for the two-state agreement so he was blinded to the risk. He had already actively derailed the Oslo Accords (on his own admission) and, many Israelis would argue, incited the assassination of Rabin who was possibly the best option for peace through a two-state solution in recent times (although I am not naive enough to think there were not barriers on both sides). You clearly agree with Natanyahu that a two-state solution should be avoided at all costs.

And his "friends in high places" are in the US - can you really imagine that the US would allow an Israeli Prime Minister to be brought to the Hague? But realistically they would be much less likely (or able) to interfere in internal affairs.

And even putting Gaza aside, do you support his actions in the West Bank? Do you really think this is protective for Israelis, let alone legal or humane towards Palestinians?

As of March 2025 nearly three quarters of Israelis thought Netanyahu should take responsibility for 7/10 and resign, so they clearly don't see him as the right person to keep Israel safe.

I really hope that the news that the first phase of the peace deal has been accepted by both sides is a real chance for lasting peace, with both sides held to account to ensure all terms and conditions are adhered to.

That’s obvious to me. Netanyahu is a war criminal and Hamas are terrorists. Between then 10s of thousands of innocents have died.

This new peace plan needs to work.

@chilliheeler123 Well said.

Netanyahu didn’t put Hamas in power in Gaza. The Palestinians in Gaza did. They did not vote for peace as the other half of the electorate voted for Fatah

They did indeed, @TicklishMauveSquid, and though we get the usual excuses about there being no election since and that many who've died weren't even born then, it doesn't wash - not when a huge % of Palestinians still back Hamas

And then some wonder why no other nations in the region want to take them ...

Where are all the Israelis supposed to go? I think most of these marching twerps see Jewish people as the orthodox eg Hasidic Jews and forget we have examples such as Dana International or the Tinder Swindler and of course millions of quite ordinary people going about their business.

I presume the marchers et al will be quite happy to welcome millions of refugees here (not that they would want to come) or perhaps - here’s a thought - they could be found a homeland ? And off we go again.

This is a bit embarrassing for all those people who have spent two years insisting ‘from the river to the sea’ didn’t mean ‘wipe Israel off the map’.

So thats a yes?

They can demand, and stamp their feet, all they like.

Not going to happen is it!

What do they think is going to happen. Western armies are going to go to war with Israel and wipe it out?

Iran perhaps?

I think Russia is busy.

Netanyahu didn’t put Hamas in power in Gaza. The Palestinians in Gaza did. They did not vote for peace as the other half of the electorate voted for Fatah.

Was Israel supposed to go into Gaza and get rid of Hamas in 2007? Can you imagine the international outcry if they had tried to remove the first elected government from Gaza, with all the collateral damage that would have caused, that Palestinians had chosen in their first free and fair elections?

Doesn’t everyone go on about their right to self determination?

There were good reasons to have Hamas as a counterweight to the PA (Fatah/PLO). The PA is hated by Palestinians, Pay for Slay, refused peace deals and to accept Israel, and incited terrorism including in their schools. It also hasn’t got a good track record of controlling terrorism in the West Bank.

www.gov.il/en/pages/wave-of-terror-october-2015

Arafat used to speak out of one side of his mouth pretending to want peace in front of Western leaders and speak out of the other side to Arab leaders and the Palestinians. Much like Abbas. I’m sure Israel knows what he really says, How many years has he been President of the PA now?

I read Netanyahu thought the money from Qatar would keep Hamas fat and lazy so to speak and they would be controllable. Netanyahu also facilitated more work permits for Gazans, who could get a much higher wage in Israel, to bring more money into the Gazan economy to increase living standards.

Being brutally honest Israel’s security depends on there not being a Palestinian State as there is no popular party who wants peace with Israel and there never has been. Netanyahu is not naive enough to believe the opposite.

Palestinians are radicalised to hate Israel and for terrorism from young childhood. Who’s fault is that?

The warnings were ignored but not by Netanyahu. He has maintained he was not informed until the attack was happening.

I have read comments ages ago by some Israelis (translated so may not be entirely accurate) that warnings may have ignored as a way to oust Netanyahu (perhaps linked to the corruption charges as well), and only hostages from the military base were expected to be taken. Netanyahu would have to step down and take the blame for the secularity failures.

I wonder if it’s true and Netanyahu knows this which is why he’s not backing down.

If he has friends in high places who’d stop him from going to The Hague, why would he be bothered about relatively minor local corruption charges? It’s to do with champagne, cigars and good media coverage isn’t it? Not embezzlement of millions of shekels or buying votes.

Just to be clear, you are demanding the eradication of Israel?

I don’t think you realise that it is well beyond the territory of a ceasefire that is being demanded. Israel has well and truly shot itself in the foot with its action in Gaza. they’ve exposed themselves that people are now calling for an end to the apartheid and end to the occupation. Israel is seen as a settlor colonial state that is an occupying force. Due to Gaza an entire new generation has been educated on what has been happening. The fact that you think it’s just about a ceasefire now is naive at best.

They could, nobledgiraffe, but that wouldn't make them feel part of the zeitgeist or make for such "exciting" images for their SM

The lessening of sympathy's a shame for the genuinely well intentioned protesters, but that's what happens when you ally yourself with those who prefer to foster hate, and it's clearly seen on here that the second group are getting increasingly rattled

I’ve noticed a lot of people calling out others for ‘staying silent’ (not just famous/influential people) and implying that people who don’t share random pro-Palestine posters to their Twitter feed or Instagram stories are complicit in genocide.

It’s possible to want safety for all and to condemn Hamas, the current actions of the Israeli government and all the anti-Semitic sentiment that has arisen in the wake of the conflict without ‘picking a side’. It’s also possible to do all those things without sharing it to your private Instagram story where it will not be seen by anybody with any decision-making power.