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To wonder how other families get to the end of the month?

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gundigirl · 07/10/2025 12:45

DH and I are both middle earners, with a combined income of around £90k. We have one DD in state school – no fees, but she does a few clubs and after-school activities, which add up.
With the rising cost of living, I’ve had to take on a side hustle. I actually enjoy it, but still – without that extra income, I wouldn't have been able to cover recent repair bills, for example.
I honestly don’t understand how other families (especially those with two or more DC, or just one working parent) make it to the end of the month. I’ve never felt more financially squeezed.
I’m not exactly a super-saver – I like the odd hair appointment – but I do try to save or invest a bit each month when I can.
What am I missing?

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confusedlady10 · 08/10/2025 18:34

BMW6 · 07/10/2025 14:02

These threads are so pointless - surely people earning this kind of money have the intelligence to sit down and work out exactly what they're spending? What's the point in asking complete strangers!?

For example, my income is less than one third of yours yet I can save nearly £1000pm. Does that help you in any way?

Is your salary before or after tax because I need to be learning from you!

GreenSmithing · 08/10/2025 18:31

Have you tried something like You Need A Budget? Or another envelope budgeting app?

One of the key ideas is that unexpected expenses like car repairs aren't really unexpected because you know if you have a car, at some stage it will need repairs, you just don't know when. So you put aside x amount every month, so that when car repairs become due, you already have money in that 'envelope' to cover it. Same for things like appliance repairs. If you have a boiler, at some stage it will break down so you have an appliance repair fund. If you need glasses, at some stage you will need new glasses... you get the idea.

It sounds as though you have enough income, you just haven't budgeted for foreseeable but unscheduled expenses. The first couple of months are tight, but once you get the different funds built up, it smooths out bumps in outgoings.

Christmascakeforbreakfast · 08/10/2025 18:27

Putneydad7 · 08/10/2025 18:00

Unless you've had a recent pay jump, your lifestyle will have expanded to fill whatever earnings you have. We have a HH income of several times that and we spend it all. Mind you 3 kids in private school is £90k off the bat, cleaner, dog minder, gardener, ski holidays, sun holidays, I don't know where the money goes!!

Can’t tell if you’re trying to be funny, or willy wanging 🙄

busymomtoone · 08/10/2025 18:24

You cut your cloth according to your means and am guessing you are used to a comfortable lifestyle. Single parent here living off basic income (£23k juggling two jobs no additional support). My only “ luxury” is a 14 year old car and petrol to enable me to drive for some trips out; and a pet! Hairdo once every 6-9 months. No gym. Vinted for clothes. Try and save for ( cheap) hols but continually paying off debts as a result!! I’m v lucky that I have a low mortgage . I have friends on significantly higher incomes but they pay for hugely expensive hols, cleaners, gardeners, expensive and frequent trips out and shop in expensive shops ( plus subscriptions for wine, posh coffee, lots of other things !). Also entertaining. I think that if you are used to some or any of these things increased costs ( eg car maintenance- tyres for luxury cars are soooo expensive) of living probably do make it feel a struggle compared to 4-5 years ago. No advice as I think once you are in that lifestyle it’s hard to downgrade !!!

Leesemarie · 08/10/2025 18:21

I think it's all relative. For some that would be a huge income, for others it wouldn't cover much. It obviously depends on location and running costs.

I think I'm actually in a similar boat to OP. I wouldn't say we go without - although we haven't been on any kind of holiday for two years (other than one day in Norfolk).

My partners parents call it the working poor.
We don't drink/smoke/go out really ever so we don't need nice clothes. We food shop to plan and do meal prep to save money. I will only ever buy anything when it's on sale.

But if I want to buy branded nappies I wouldn't need to think twice about it so I know I'm fortunate.

miss79guided · 08/10/2025 18:20

gundigirl · 07/10/2025 12:45

DH and I are both middle earners, with a combined income of around £90k. We have one DD in state school – no fees, but she does a few clubs and after-school activities, which add up.
With the rising cost of living, I’ve had to take on a side hustle. I actually enjoy it, but still – without that extra income, I wouldn't have been able to cover recent repair bills, for example.
I honestly don’t understand how other families (especially those with two or more DC, or just one working parent) make it to the end of the month. I’ve never felt more financially squeezed.
I’m not exactly a super-saver – I like the odd hair appointment – but I do try to save or invest a bit each month when I can.
What am I missing?

It is NOT about saving. It IS about budgeting and prioritising - do I really NEED to buy that? What would happen if you did NOT buy it? Would it make a difference ?

AccidentalPrawnYouFool · 08/10/2025 18:17

TheDenimPoet · 07/10/2025 14:35

Are you joking, or do you genuinely not realise how tone deaf it is to complain about struggling on 90k while there are other families on a fraction of that amount?

So what? OP is asking for advice on her situation. By your rules no one could come here and ask advice ever for fear there is someone worse off!

Fatiguedwithlife · 08/10/2025 18:17

After bills you still have thousands of pounds left, EVERY MONTH.
How is that a stretch?? If you had to get a new boiler (£3K) you can afford that and still have thousands coming in the month after!

BeMintSwan · 08/10/2025 18:17

Everything is relative.To some £90k is a huge amount of money, to others it is not. If you have large outgoings like a big mortgage or drive cars with expensive monthly payments you can quickly go through a decent wage, Cutting back on going out, school clubs, or food bills isn’t going to make much difference.

TheSwarm · 08/10/2025 18:14

Average uk household income is £36,700.

If you are feeling "stretched" on 90k it's because you've overextended yourself with the mortgage or you are shit at managing a budget.

Totemoneru · 08/10/2025 18:14

gundigirl · 07/10/2025 20:35

Thank you everyone for your comments — some were really kind and thoughtful, others a little less so, but I appreciate all the perspectives shared.

Just to clarify, I’m well aware that we’re not skint, and I do recognise we’re in a more fortunate position than many. That said, what prompted my post is that any time there’s a big, unexpected cost (like a car repair or something going wrong in the house), it wipes out a chunk of our savings — and that just didn’t used to be the case a few years ago. Things feel tighter now, even if on paper we’re doing OK.

To give a clearer picture, here’s a rough monthly breakdown:

Mortgage + bills: ~£1,500

DD’s activities: swimming, piano (school), karate, one language club, Stagecoach, plus wraparound care

Gym: £100/month – my only real hobby, and it includes use of the pool

Haircuts: I go twice a year, DH cuts his own hair and doesn’t use the gym

We very rarely go out these days, and while our life is certainly comfortable, it’s not what I’d call extravagant. I was really just hoping to open up an honest conversation about the cost of living, and how others are navigating similar challenges.

Thanks again to those who took the time to reply.

We bring in less than 90k a year for sure. Our mortgage alone is £2100 a month. It's not easy.

YourPeppyAmberTraybake · 08/10/2025 18:11

Toomanywaterbottles · 08/10/2025 18:09

90k household salary is not “middle earners”, FGS.

Who are middle earners?

Toomanywaterbottles · 08/10/2025 18:09

90k household salary is not “middle earners”, FGS.

thisishowloween · 08/10/2025 18:07

gundigirl · 08/10/2025 18:01

Ok but those are your words, not mine. Never said I was "struggling".

I said I felt stretched by the cost of living crisis, and large repair bills made me look for side hustles to top up my income.

Right, but my point is that have absolutely no reason to feel "stretched" when you can spend the money you're spending each month.

Saying that you're "financially squeezed" when you're spending nearly £800 a month on food and sending your kid to stage school is just offensive, frankly.

Blablibladirladada · 08/10/2025 18:01

lol.

if you save or invest a bit each month…my dear…you are going to be grilled down in flame.

Should you have more money to feel less pinched? Yes
Are you in anyway stretched? No

And you know it so…

gundigirl · 08/10/2025 18:01

thisishowloween · 08/10/2025 17:58

Of course a household income of 90k is high.

You can afford £100 a month on the gym, £180 a week on food and to pay for your child to do multiple expensive activities, including sending her to stage school.

You could make so many cut backs if you wanted and you still wouldn't be struggling.

Ok but those are your words, not mine. Never said I was "struggling".

I said I felt stretched by the cost of living crisis, and large repair bills made me look for side hustles to top up my income.

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Putneydad7 · 08/10/2025 18:00

Unless you've had a recent pay jump, your lifestyle will have expanded to fill whatever earnings you have. We have a HH income of several times that and we spend it all. Mind you 3 kids in private school is £90k off the bat, cleaner, dog minder, gardener, ski holidays, sun holidays, I don't know where the money goes!!

Roobarbtwo · 08/10/2025 18:00

gundigirl · 08/10/2025 17:50

£90k gross, DH earns £50k, I earn £40. How does that make us high earners, exactly? That's an average teaching salary!

You're high earners compared to a lot of people. My brother works in a gym - and he's very good at what he does - he earns about 28k a year gross for a 33 hour week - he's been there 15 years. I'm in Scotland so it's obviously not comparable to what people earn down south - but I know few people who earn 90k between them. The upside is the cost of living is cheaper here - my brother pays around 500 pounds a month on his mortgage.

thisishowloween · 08/10/2025 17:58

gundigirl · 08/10/2025 17:50

£90k gross, DH earns £50k, I earn £40. How does that make us high earners, exactly? That's an average teaching salary!

Of course a household income of 90k is high.

You can afford £100 a month on the gym, £180 a week on food and to pay for your child to do multiple expensive activities, including sending her to stage school.

You could make so many cut backs if you wanted and you still wouldn't be struggling.

gundigirl · 08/10/2025 17:56

northernballer · 08/10/2025 14:32

Are you putting a lot in your pension? We earn a large amount on paper but put a load in our pensions so although we can't afford long foreign holidays or a cleaner that's the reason. I know loads of people who earn significantly less than us with a nicer lifestyle who are making no provision for later life and will be relying on the state pension as they feel you never know what's round the corner.

I am also amazed at some people on here earning half what you do and not struggling at all!

My pension contributions are average, but I slightly increased my contributions to an investment account last year, in a wishful thinking resolution to put more money aside each month and build up interest long term.

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Happygirl79 · 08/10/2025 17:55

I think that the main thing to consider is not how much your earn but instead how much you spend.

It is generally within your control.

SomewhereInTheMIdlands · 08/10/2025 17:51

Hobnobswantshernameback · 07/10/2025 12:51

Seriously?
didn't take long?
90k
there are people surviving on stuff from food banks

Household incomes of £15k are comon.

gundigirl · 08/10/2025 17:50

nearlylovemyusername · 08/10/2025 14:59

Haven't RTFT, but is this 90k gross or net? two people having roughly equal packages or one earner?

If 90k net then with 1500/month mortgage you still have 6k/month left which is a lot.

If 90k is gross, then there is huge difference between one SAHP and one earner, take home would be about 62k (let's ignore pensions for a moment) and two earners of 45k with total take home 72k.

So what's the situation here?

£90k gross, DH earns £50k, I earn £40. How does that make us high earners, exactly? That's an average teaching salary!

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WYTrio · 08/10/2025 17:50

I think I get it. I was on a slightly above average wage (below average for a household) and we had to budget and make choices. You are well off by most people's standards and the cost of living crisis hits you.

But there are people on minimum wage supporting whole families. How do they cope? What must it be like for them?

Luna6 · 08/10/2025 17:46

180 a week on food is a lot.