To be late for school once a week?

It's not the minimum though is it? Highest grades in the year isn't the minimum effort!
I don't understand people who place such import on punctuality when it isn't impacting anything....obviously I understand importance when it does.

I absolutely did this in sixth form. They didnt have the one day a week policy either so I did it every day. Well done to your daughter for being an independent thinker. Why, as an almost grown adult, should someone have to go in before classes to go and sit in form or assembly? What purpose is it serving?

I wouldn't get worked up about this. They are year 13 and learning their way in the world.

Think yourself lucky there is such a policy, in that you don't get penalised for being late once a week. My son's school doesn't have that - you're late, you're late, it's a detention! These policies are in place to help a student who may be late once, but it shouldn't be abused. If it is, then the school may decide to change their policy. In the world of work, if you're late once a week, you will not only have to make the time up by working later but if it happens too much, you'll likely end up with a verbal warning, followed by a written warning and then fired. There's consequences, in all behaviours. Get to school on time, there's no excuses.

Can't believe any parent would even publish this post. Ffs.

Sounds like my son, who told the school, at a meeting about his lateness, that registration was pointless as all information came to him via email!
They politely told him that his part of the contract was to be on time, and they weren't obliged to accommodate him since he was over 16.
He's very successful now, but massively irritating at the time!
I think she's making a point of it on purpose and should just turn up when expected.

I do actually agree with this.

When I was in sixth form, we didn't have to be on-site when we didn't have lessons, but we did have to attend form, which was each morning and afternoon. So even if I didn't have a lesson until 11, I had to be in at 8.30. And if I finished at 11, I had to stay until 1.30 to attend afternoon form (and thus had to have lunch on-site as a result).

Form, in our case, was not a lesson. A register was taken, it was 10 minutes, and we either chatted, heard a story about our form tutor's life, or took it in turns to tell jokes. Sometimes the form tutor just bobbed his head in to submit the register, and then wandered off again. It was never, at any point, useful - as we had specific lessons on the timetable for UCAS, personal chats with head of college, and other skills related stuff. It was largely there because we were attached to a school and had the same timetable/bells etc. They had form, so we had form.

Towards the end of my first year, I stopped attending form, and something was said to me only once. I said I would have a much better chance of getting good grades if I could study from home, in an empty house, rather than in the computer room or canteen there, which was always noisy.

I did to do the work. I can understand that others might not have, but by sixth form they're more than old enough to make that decision, and shouldn't have to be kept on-site to work. Anyone who requires that level of babying will never complete a university course.

I have a couple of relatives and at least one former colleague who are exactly like this. Colleague used to have her annual two week “sinusitis” which is what was recorded on the system, but she didn’t pretend to be ill and nobody thought she was. She just regarded it as like annual leave and couldn’t understand why everyone else didn’t do it.
DH’s brother and his DW had the same attitude- always made sure they took their full “allocation” of sick leave.

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The same way my own Mum did with her five boys when they were trying their luck

Accepting that sometimes in life you have to follow rules that you don’t necessarily agree with is part of being a functioning adult. It reflects badly on you to be gaming the system to your advantage, and makes you seem quite arrogant (as if the rules are below you). Doesn’t bode well for the future world of work, imo.

The child is year 13, old enough to make his choices regarding this...

I guess if see the reason to get to school on time is to value your education and your relationship with your teachers, and therefore not to be a pita to them!

Only sticking to rules because of a fear of punishment is quite an immature stance, and if a teen was still in this mindset I'd assume they needed their parent to be more hands on in getting them up and taking them to school, like you would for a younger child.

I think the value of good will shouldn't be underestimated. If you do your part by trying to be a part of a community, generally you will have more allowances made in other ways. Ultimately, you get out what you put in at school.

Mine just had a system to sign in office if they missed registration so it didn’t inconvenience anyone.
I’m usually a people pleaser and go to stuff but I couldn’t think of any reason for her to go to ‘Applying to uni’ first thing Tuesday when she’d already submitted her application to uni as a handful who did early entry. They weren’t permitted to do class work in the time. I honestly couldn’t think of a decent argument why she should go to the class.

Sorry if you think I was insulting you. I was probably raising my eyebrows a bit higher than normal at the idea that a teen managed to deal perfectly well with their “ teenage circadian rhythm” issues on four days of the school week and one day of the weekend, but once a week had a relapse.

And who knows why the child is doing all the voluntary stuff with younger children and keeping up with their grades, perhaps they are a child who knows which side their personal statement bread is buttered, but also wants to sneak a bit of jam on there once a week , not because they particularly like jam but because the jam is free and the best thing is you can leave the sticky jam spoon out for someone else to wash and put away.

I’d hate my kids to pick up that attitude. Doesn’t bode well for life being willing to do the minimum to get by. I particularly hate lateness.

I never went to sixth form tutor group.
No one batted an eyelid as my grades weren't affected by me missing half an hour of sitting about doing nothing.
I think your daughter's attitude shows great judgement.

You come off it! There’s just no need to resort to insults. You’re free to disagree with the OPs position on this but does this really sound like a ‘rude, snotty kid’ to you?

“In case it is relevant, I have the second highest voluntary service hours in the school (this is for things like helping younger students, doing clubs etc) and I am predicted the highest grades. I’ve never had any detentions for behaviour etc.”

Realistically how do you drag an 18 yr old bigger than you though?

If I asked mine that they would be fine with everyone doing it.

They are still immature idiots sometimes. Lots of teens are.

If you can’t see any value to group gatherings other than the giving out of announcements, and can’t see the logistical problems of hundreds of students arriving at school and having to be registered there at different times, nothing I can say will persuade you.

Oh come off it. this isn’t about “ teenage circadian rhythms” , it’s about a rude, snotty kid thinking they are getting one over on the school.

My DD could have written this.

Her school allows 5 lates per half term. The 6th, she get an hour’s detention the following Friday. This morning she was leisurely getting herself ready and when I shouted up that she’s going to be late, her response was that she’s skipping assembly today as she’s only on 4 lates and it’s half term soon.

I find that a slightly pointless question, what if everyone did this? This child has, rightly or wrongly, decided there is no benefit to assemblies and missing them causes no issues (this certainly tracks with my memory of school assemblies - important announcements were emailed, the assemblies were just wittering). So presumably this child would think that if everyone missed one a week, it wouldn’t matter. You may disagree, I assume you do, but I don’t see why you think that question would make the child see the situation differently.

40+ years ago, I worked in a pub five nights a week and setup a market stall two mornings a week - that was the only money I got for anything beyond food/ housing. My headmaster knew my situation and I went in when I had lessons, with an informal acknowledgment from him; by 6th form I already had a reserved place at Naval College, so was highly motivated and achieving. However, as I moved into the upper 6th, a bunch of kids who then moved up into the lower sixth started to arrive on their bus then hang out in a cafe until lessons started. When challenged they referred to me. The end result was the HM and I had a chat. He couldn’t let me have flexibility, so… nett result was I left before the end of the year and reapplied (successfully) to the Navy based on my O-Level results.
I suspect that at some point the formal privilege in place for everyone will be removed if your child is seen to abuse it and others follow - because why wouldn’t they?