To be late for school once a week?

I didn't talk about respect, I've pointed out that the argument of preparation for the "real world" is overused in this kind of threads.

If you want to talk about respect, let's start from different question. Is the school respectful of the student's time?

I've never had a job without a start time or no expectations. The point is there are rules and boundaries in the real world, its just applied differently at school. The being late isn't relevant its the fact they choose not to follow a rule that applies to all.

What does DC want to do when they leave education?

If it includes College and University.
They don't see punctuality in the same way, if your DC is persistently late, either to lessons or handing in work they will get warnings and then kicked out.
In University its similar but handing in work late usually results in a lesser grade, unless they get one of those lecturers that just gives out extensions.

Although your DC will say that they know this and that they won't do it but it does breed bad habits.

Depending on what they want to do after education depends on how the company will react.

So we should be teaching our children to be disrespectful unless someone is paying for their time?

The argument with real world and jobs doesn't really fly.

Many jobs don't have an exact start time.
In the real world, the employer is paying me for the time they want me to spent in activities similar to form/assembly.

I love you've posted this from your kid's perspective. I kind of get it, at work if we are off sick more than so many times in a year it triggers an HR absence alert, so I like to take the odd day off here and there but stay under the threshold.

I read this as coming from a girl! And I can't say why. Its funny isnt it how we've assumed unless I've missed something?

Awful attitude

I would love it if all my 6th formers would actually read their emails. And acknowledging the email would also be useful. It’s infuriating trying to organise meetings with them sometimes - I have one Year 13 who doesn’t even bring the correct book to the lessons, sometimes not even a pen! If I need to get a message to a student, knowing it’s been passed on in person to the student means I know they have received it.

Good outcome and a good life lesson.

The policy is clearly there for unavoidable lateness not to give students one lie in a week.
The point made by a Pp is s good one, the policy isn’t permission to be late rather it’s setting a threshold for punishment.

Universities are hot on attendance and punctuality so while we clearly can’t force students to be there, there are sanctions for lateness and non attendance. Something for your DC to bear in mind!

Good outcome, OP. And it might not just be your DC, so if loads are not acting “in the spirit” it may well be challenged. And a life lesson learned!

Haven't rtft.
I think the 'you can be late once a week without a penalty' thing is an absolutely idiotic idea and actually kind of misleading.

Imo this isn't true:
'Technically your dd is following the rules'.
Because presumably the school doesn't mean 'It's fine and perfectly within the school rules to be late once a week' (the school rules, I expect, say something like 'arrive at schoolby 8:45'). So being late once a week is against the school rules, it's just that it's below the threshold for a punishment to be applied. Why would they bring up her punctuality if she were sticking to the actual rules?

I’m sure they are perfectly delightful @Latelateshowz but they won’t be terribly
popular with their peers when the school change the policy and everyone knows it’s because LateShowz Minor couldn’t do without their weekly lie-in.

No but it doesn’t mean that employee would be well liked and viewed favourably for progression and promotion.
I’ve managed people with this attitude and quite frankly I’ve little patience for them.

If your DC needs convincing of the practical reasons why this isn't a good idea:

Form time might seem dull, but they'll miss all the important UCAS stuff and interview tips etc. Lots of stuff they need for their next step is covered here.

This will be taken into account in their reference. Being late once a week every week is something they will definitely mention.

If too many people start doing what your DC is doing, the school will take note and change the policy.

I disagree.
It’s disrespectful and bratty. It suggests the child in question thinks their time is more important than everyone else’s.
If it was to attend a job, due to caring responsibilities or something valuable and useful then they’d have a point.
But just to have a lie in? Nope, it’s not showing critical thinking or challenging the system. It’s laziness and entitlement.

Doesn’t surprise me though, I teach at a university and see this type of behaviour regularly. It’s the type of student that works out what percentage their attendance can be before triggering attendance monitoring procedures.

If a work place had an exemption of a one day late policy without discipline, but you were late every week then you would get disciplined or fired.
The policy is to be used under certain circumstances, if something should arise. Plus if child keeps this attitude up it will follow said child into workplace, by giving the wrong attitude towards things, It's poor attendance and in the real working world there are consequences. .

Personally I see the kid’s point of view!

Schools start so early these days which really doesn’t fit with the teenage body clock. I can understand him trying to get some rest where he can!

Year 13 is post-compulsory education, and the only statutory requirement is to be in education, employment, or training - not to attend school. Students who want a more adult experience in further education can attend college. Making the choice to remain in a school environment for sixth form generally means accepting the reality of remaining in a more traditional environment where the attendance expectation is not too dissimilar to KS3 and KS4. A student who doesn't want this should have gone to college.

If a business wrote a contract in such a way they would have no come back for an employee who used the extra late day each week. If they hadn't meant it to be used like that, they should have been very specific about it in the policy.

The firm isn't saying you can wfh one day a week. The firm is saying if you can't get into work for some good reason and you're forced to work from home one day in one particular week we won't issue a written warning.

Not really.
The school are saying you won’t penalised for occasional lateness not you can choose one day to have a lie in and actively choose to be late.

It's a tradition for tradition's sake. The world has changed an awful lot since the implementation of statutory education but, the school day has not. These ways of setting up school were to prepare children for an industrial world that is largely gone. At what point do we question why are we still doing it like this? I think a young person who has clearly asked the question to themselves ,and found a loophole that proves the attendance at such events unnecessary, is someone with critical thinking skills I would be happy to employ.