Murder

Her brother’s theory is slightly ridiculous. I can’t believe that a random person would shoot her in broad daylight, and using an originally blank firing gun that had been modified. It really is beyond belief that someone got away with killing her in a busy part of London, on a late morning. I still think it was someone from a Serbian gang.

Just googled - imagine if she hadn’t remained conscious - it would have been put down as an accident.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-65199907.amp

arthur's seat.

the documentary is very very well done. The victims mother is amazing

@Idstillratherbepaddleboarding I once had a dream that I killed Esther Rantzen. I hid her in an airing cupboard. When I woke up, I was convinced for a good 15 minutes that I had done this.

Anni Dewani was murdered on her honeymoon during a carjacking in SA that was supposed to have been arranged by her husband, but he was acquitted at trial, I think.

There was also that documentary about a man who pushed his wife off a hill (Jacob’s ledge or something) but he messed up with phoning for emergency services and/or the victim survived for a short time and told a passer-by that he had pushed her. If neither of those things had happened it would have been put down as a tragic accident

Wasn’t there similar a good few years ago, can’t remember where. It was an arranged marriage and the groom was gay so he arranged for the taxi to be hijacked. Off to google…

Yes so dh would not see me open it behind him. It wouldn't be the door pushing him down the stairs but the person hiding behind it 🤫

Yes, a friend of mine said she'd read that maybe JD was about to expose a story on someone and needed to be silenced. I think someone was paid to assassinate her, so that will be even harder to investigate

Now you have a digital footprint for searching for an Internet cafe so the police know where to look....

I agree, there’s probably some proportion of those people who’ve been murdered. But then what do the killers do with the corpses is what I’ve always wondered.

My personal theory is there are many murders which go unpunished because people don’t realise they are murders. Deaths look accidental. I reckon it’s fully possible women killing their husbands / male partners is really under-reported because a pillow over the face at night and ‘oh no it was just a heart attack one of those things such a tragedy’. They wouldn’t be performing autopsies on all these fellas.

Sorry, I know I'm being morbidly nosy, but what was the reason given for the man who arranged the car highjacking? They were on their honeymoon! Surely not marrying her would have been the easiest option.

If I put my conspiracy hat on I would say the the “establishment “
she was a popular powerful in her own way credible journalists
who was very well liked

I think maybe she had something on the bbc presenters who we now know are sex abusers and she took her suspicions to the wrong people

thousands go missing from the UK every year. I imagine quite a few are murdered where the perp is never found. I've heard it's easier to get away with murder if the person is unknown to you.

Only if I had a piggery

I've just googled too, we have two Internet cafes. Plus the library. When I got my library card many years ago I didn't need to present ID. I don't think that's changed. Obviously if you're going to have to resort to the library to get on the Internet to research murder methods, you will need to join under a fake name. Also wear a wig/mustache, you know, it's all in the details... oh and for goodness sakes, please use cash!

I'm from the same town as Melanie Hall & used to often go to the same nightclub. I feel that MH was murdered by someone she met in the club. Was the man who kissed her ever traced? Such a shame that her friends left her on her own thinking she was with her boyfriend and vice versa. I always tell my dds never to leave any friends in their own.

I'm very intrigued as to who murdered Jill Dando. Her brother seems to think that she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time as she wasn't due to be back at her house that day. But I'm not so sure. It's almost unheard of for someone, particularly an adult, to be murdered by a stranger, plus it seemed to be so meticulously carried out

Yes, they are. In certain parts of the city in the north west like the one I live in, and I saw a few in north London last year. Nowhere near as many as a decade ago but they still exist.

No I couldn't. I wouldn't want to kill anyone and if I did I'd probably fess up immediately.

What is the AIBU btw? I'm sure someone's already asked

But that's the easy part. The police always look at the partner first, then at the rest of the family, then at everyone the victim knew. It's extremely rare to murder someone you don't know

I think a bigger barrier to this one: are internet cafes still even a thing?! I've just googled and in my (large) town the only option seems to be the library, and you have to enter your library card number to use their computers so it isn't anonymous.

Most internal doors in houses open inwards, into the room, though? Front doors tend to open into the house too.

I have always told dh to think twice before bending over to pick up £50 / a cheese board / skate board at the top of the stairs. The door to the bathroom is at the top of the stairs....