Murder

In interview with a vampire they show up in photos, so I'd assume so.

There are too many inconsistencies to be definitive with the animal blood/blood bags solution. The human bar sounds good though.

Conan Doyle a dramatic forerunner?

I've used the cliff top method before (in a book, not real life)

Thank you for clarifying.

I'm a crime writer, so I spend quite a lot of time pondering this professionally. I've used the cliff top method before (in a book, not real life). This thread has given me some great ideas!

In reality, I could never do it, keeping a secret of that magnitude would eat me up inside.

Do vampires show up on CCTV? Or is it like not having a reflection?

In Angel the vampires can drink animal blood, usually bought from a vampire.

In Buffy (later series) there was a bar where humans would go to let vampires drink from them.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3e7l79jxvlo.amp

Very sad.

In 'The Radleys' only eating animal blood is survivable, but not good. Malnourishment like only living off gruel. And too long without human blood gives them the 'blood lust' where they can snap and rampage which would not be good ...

In interview with a vampire, he does both. In the early 20th Century he alternates between human and rat to avoid suspicions, which implies they really need human blood. But later on, survives off blood bags, but whether he still needs a fresh kill every so often, I don't know.

DH and I thought our best bet would be to move around remote hiking destinations. Remote, no witnesses, no CCTV, scavengers would eat the remains, and it would just be written off as an unfortunate camping disappearance. The key would be to keep moving though to not raise suspicions.

There is probably only a very short list of circumstance where I would actively go and kill someone that wasn’t immediate self defense.

If anyone abused, hurt or murdered my kids or my mum.

I would pay cash under a fake name for a shit car and run them over, reserve over them a few times. Burn out the car. Job done.

In all likelihood I would get traced or arrested while attempting to flee - I would make sure that I was totally drunk, have a credible history detailed with my GP of my never ending mental health crisis since, and I’m a woman with no previous convictions - baby jail time at worst.

In those circumstances I think going to jail would be worth it.

Ooh yes please!

Vampires are pretty much people, though, aren't they? In which case I think living off blood bags would be like us living off ready meals - not as satisfying, not as good for you, but keeps you alive! There might be campaigns in the vampire community about the dangers of too much, led b UPB (ultra processed blood), led by Count van Tulleken.

If you lived with someone or it was just house your dna would there all over the place anyway. Things forensics would looking for like hair, skin cells etc would be dismissed in your own house or on people who live with you. They'd be looking for your skin cells under there finger nails in signs of a struggle or your blood on the knife / on the wall if they had been stabbed and cuts on you.

And there would be evidence that force was used I'd imagine

Just Googled it & there is evidence it was a professional job

Same with the Wests. They probably would have got away with all the murders if one of their kids hadn't said something about their dead sister to their teacher

Pushing someone down the stairs would leave DNA. Also there’s more likelihood of the person surviving compared to other ways.

What about if your dh had a heart attack and you waited until he was dead before you called 999. Bet that happens a lot.
I'm not sure you could poison someone these days.

I think it depends on who you are trying to murder too, I think its a lot easier to kill a family member and get away with it eg push them down the stairs, off a cliff, poision them and then call the police and say they fell than it would be to kill someone and hide the body. Im 5'2 and live in a terraced house, so Id have no chance 🤣 Someone big and strong, living on a remote property would have a lot more chance than me!

It's a good job I'm not going to be murdering anyone then isn't it!

Not impossible at all. Similar to falling down the stairs, any accident where someone has been pushed to their death and there is no CCTV footage, is very difficult to prove as murder, as the act of pushing someone leaves no mark.

Ideally chose a nice scenic spot up a mountain or at a cliff edge, take lots of nice photographs of your happy hike together before there’s a “terrible accident”.

DH and I were talking about this last night (sort of). Vampires must be really struggling for victims nowadays with CCTV and forensic evidence. Victorian vampires were really living in the golden age! Nowadays they'd have to work in a blood bank and skim some off the side or something in order to survive. But would that be enough? Most predators won't scavenge in the animal world. Could a vampire live off blood bags?

I’ve often thought that Myra Hindley and Ian Brady would have got away in the 1960s with killing those four children if it wasn’t for killing their final victim - Edward Evans - and getting Hindley’s BIL involved in the cleaning up of that murder.

Too many cctv on random buildings. Unless it was in the middle of nowhere, might be difficult to get away with even in those circumstances.

Impossible really. CCTV on most buildings. Blood splatter tell tale signs. DNA. Mobile pinging off nearby buildings so you can’t lie about your whereabouts (unless you leave your phone home). It would be such a chore trying to make sure it was water tight, I don’t think i could be arsed. I’ve been watching the Ed Gein drama on Netflix. It was in the 1950s, and I think you could have probably got away with anything back then. Mind boggling..

Maybe a complete random. So I, have no motive, no connection, no previous criminal record, probably wear a wig to and from whatever place I did it so that CC tv would be looking for somebody who looked different.