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To finally agree with a junior doctors strike

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Horsehow · 06/10/2025 18:20

Junior doctors have decided to strike as they are being overlooked for jobs / training posts which are instead given to international applicants. I’ve always abhorred their money grabbing strikes in the past, but support this one 100%. UK doctors should be recruited where possible, and international graduates only turned to where we cannot find a suitable recruit in the UK.

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mumsneedwine · 06/10/2025 20:11

Marbles10 · 06/10/2025 20:10

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Its almost like we know what we are talking about. Spent the past 12 months lobbying hard.

mumsneedwine · 06/10/2025 20:10

@SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice no. Said nothing about any charge. I said they had equal priority to get any job as a doctor.

Marbles10 · 06/10/2025 20:10

@SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice

To finally agree with a junior doctors strike
SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 06/10/2025 20:08

mumsneedwine · 06/10/2025 20:07

Hopefully now can see that IMGs get equal
opportunities for jobs to UKGs. That law firm needs to go back to school if it's claiming otherwise !

No, they are saying the ISC applies. You did say the charge no longer applies, but it does.

mumsneedwine · 06/10/2025 20:07

Wishiwasatailor · 06/10/2025 20:07

The worrying thing is that if the junior posts are all filled by older foreign IMGs then they will age out and retire or return back to their home country there will be a gap of senior resident doctors/consultants

This.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 06/10/2025 20:07

Eyewhisker · 06/10/2025 20:04

Actually, I think the same should apply for all graduates as it did before Boris Johnson. It used to be firms could only hire non-EU candidates when there were no suitable UK applicants.

Now, everyone from around the world can apply and there is an unemployment crisis among UK graduates. No shit sherlock.

It is worse among medical students as there is a sole employer but the same does apply to other jobs.

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I thought the private sector was also hiring doctors? Especially for GPs.

(GPs are all privatised)

mumsneedwine · 06/10/2025 20:07

Hopefully now can see that IMGs get equal
opportunities for jobs to UKGs. That law firm needs to go back to school if it's claiming otherwise !

PurpleFairyLights · 06/10/2025 20:07

Janesmom · 06/10/2025 19:59

In every other professional career, UK grads compete with those from other jurisdictions for however many jobs are available. Take law, where the best city firms are staffed by the top grads from across the world. Why should medicine be any different?

Because doctors only have one employer and government have invested 250k in their training

Wishiwasatailor · 06/10/2025 20:07

The worrying thing is that if the junior posts are all filled by older foreign IMGs then they will age out and retire or return back to their home country there will be a gap of senior resident doctors/consultants

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 06/10/2025 20:06

mumsneedwine · 06/10/2025 20:05

Where did I say this ?

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Sorry, you didn’t, my mistake. You said UK doctors don’t have priority, which is true,

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 06/10/2025 20:05

mumsneedwine · 06/10/2025 20:03

@SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice read more carefully. No one said they get priority over UKGs. They get the same priority.

Ah yes, my mistake I confused you with another poster on that point.

Sevillian · 06/10/2025 20:05

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Repost. No such posts exist.

mumsneedwine · 06/10/2025 20:05

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 06/10/2025 20:03

Ok, well perhaps link them? The only thing you linked directly contradicted you.
You said foreign doctors got priority over UK doctors for jobs, but what you linked clearly stated “equal opportunity” which means officially neither has priority.

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Where did I say this ?

Eyewhisker · 06/10/2025 20:04

Janesmom · 06/10/2025 19:59

In every other professional career, UK grads compete with those from other jurisdictions for however many jobs are available. Take law, where the best city firms are staffed by the top grads from across the world. Why should medicine be any different?

Actually, I think the same should apply for all graduates as it did before Boris Johnson. It used to be firms could only hire non-EU candidates when there were no suitable UK applicants.

Now, everyone from around the world can apply and there is an unemployment crisis among UK graduates. No shit sherlock.

It is worse among medical students as there is a sole employer but the same does apply to other jobs.

Sevillian · 06/10/2025 20:04

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I’ve suggested they do just that since we’re going for a Groundhog Day here. And I’ve just a second ago suggested you produce evidence of the ‘bile’ (you won’t be able to - I’m calling your bluff).

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 06/10/2025 20:03

mumsneedwine · 06/10/2025 20:01

Oh dear. Read more. Look at the BMA conference and motions passed this autumn. It's so easy to find out,
I know I'm right.

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Ok, well perhaps link them? The only thing you linked directly contradicted you.
You said foreign doctors got priority over UK doctors for jobs, but what you linked clearly stated “equal opportunity” which means officially neither has priority.

mumsneedwine · 06/10/2025 20:03

@SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice read more carefully. No one said they get priority over UKGs. They get the same priority.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 06/10/2025 20:02

mumsneedwine · 06/10/2025 19:59

@SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice seriously ? You need to read more from doctors if don't believe it's true. There is NO priority for UKGs. None. Nil.

Yes seriously. Where is the data/evidence showing that foreign doctors get priority over or are systematically preferred over UK doctors?

mumsneedwine · 06/10/2025 20:01

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mumsneedwine · 06/10/2025 20:01

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 06/10/2025 19:59

Along with all the other solicitor firms and the Home Office bureaucrats claiming the charge is still due to them too? What are the chances that everyone is mistaken except you? Have you found a page saying the ISC has been eliminated like you say?

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Oh dear. Read more. Look at the BMA conference and motions passed this autumn. It's so easy to find out,
I know I'm right.

PurpleFairyLights · 06/10/2025 20:01

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