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To finally agree with a junior doctors strike

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Horsehow · 06/10/2025 18:20

Junior doctors have decided to strike as they are being overlooked for jobs / training posts which are instead given to international applicants. I’ve always abhorred their money grabbing strikes in the past, but support this one 100%. UK doctors should be recruited where possible, and international graduates only turned to where we cannot find a suitable recruit in the UK.

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PurpleFairyLights · 22/10/2025 20:04

Scotiasdarling · 22/10/2025 19:55

Why on earth are you quoting me and then talking rubbish? What do you want me to look up for you?

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I will try to make this simple for you.

Your post said "eh?" Because you thought you were being funny when in fact it showed your complete ignorance of the meaning of: the phrases I used. I kindly posted the meaning for you.

The pharade A word to the wise. I put (not) in front of wise as you have shown only limited understanding in all your posts.

Take a leaf out of Sevillian 's book. You can look up the meaning of that one for yourself.

mumsneedwine · 22/10/2025 20:03

Or at least they are in the UK

mumsneedwine · 22/10/2025 20:02

Consultants are called Mr ? Not Dr.

mumsneedwine · 22/10/2025 20:02

Evening shift has arrived 😂. BAPIO really don't like us @PurpleFairyLights.

Marchesman · 22/10/2025 19:57

PurpleFairyLights · 22/10/2025 19:47

Wow petty. Mr son is a Mr but is not insulted when called doctor.

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I made no reference to insults. That is a typically incorrect inference on your part. I was happy to be called mister by half of my patients, the point is I was never, ever, called mister by any sort of colleague, no matter how remote the relationship.

My comment was about ignorance.

Scotiasdarling · 22/10/2025 19:56

Sorry, what on earth.

Scotiasdarling · 22/10/2025 19:55

PurpleFairyLights · 22/10/2025 19:49

I have left the other one for you to look up

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Why on earth are you quoting me and then talking rubbish? What do you want me to look up for you?

PurpleFairyLights · 22/10/2025 19:49

Scotiasdarling · 22/10/2025 19:29

Eh?

I have left the other one for you to look up

Marchesman · 22/10/2025 19:49

HostessTrolley · 22/10/2025 18:51

Are the Partha Kar quotes definitely about IMGs? Just asking because the first two could equally be about the rise in PAs (and various ACPs) on doctor rotas and describing themselves as being equivalent to a registrar, there's a lot of discussion about this and the impact on medical recruitment and the direction of medicine as a career on Twitter..

All of the above, none of which I would disagree with. For example: https://www.bmj.com/content/388/bmj.r33

But I doubt that he would be pleased to know that his comments are being used to support an argument for appointment by nationality instead of by merit.

Partha Kar: The new storm propagated by poor medical workforce planning is now upon us

A storm is brewing in the NHS medical workforce. The problem is a lack of jobs for doctors, resulting in questions about competition for jobs between local graduates and international medical graduates (IMGs). An artificial bottleneck has been created...

https://www.bmj.com/content/388/bmj.r33

Sevillian · 22/10/2025 19:48

Apologies mumsneedwine, I know how much you loathe literature and all references to it.

Sevillian · 22/10/2025 19:47

I'm so sorry. The spires were apparently not the right kind. I'm not as elitist as you I'm afraid

It's not about elitism in any way. It's about getting a reference right: 'dreaming spires' is a beautiful phrase from the Matthew Arnold poem whereas 'gleaming spires' jars, conjuring up a picture of scaffolding for HS2 somewhere up the M42 (J6 or thereabouts).

PurpleFairyLights · 22/10/2025 19:47

Marchesman · 22/10/2025 19:32

You believe that you are in a position to describe "Partha" as "awesome" and then you give him a surgical title.

It is a rookie error to think that consultant physicians (or professors of medicine) are called mister.

Are you sure that you have ever met a consultant (in anything)?

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Wow petty. Mr son is a Mr but is not insulted when called doctor.

PurpleFairyLights · 22/10/2025 19:41

Sevillian · 22/10/2025 19:26

This needs to be put through a word unscrambler; completely unintelligible as it stands.

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Enjoy

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/a%20word%20to%20the%20wise

Marchesman · 22/10/2025 19:32

mumsneedwine · 22/10/2025 18:16

I'm so sorry. The spires were apparently not the right kind. I'm not as elitist as you I'm afraid.

Not sure why you think I'm on first name terms with anyone ? I'll call them Mr Streeting and Mr Kar if you like. Although I have met one of them a few times.

I do know that Mr Kar is a strong advocate for IMGs already here but also a strong advocate of not having unemployed UKGs. Because he's sensible. He also sees some consultants throwing their juniors under the bus, and he's brave enough to stand up to them. Lots aren't.

Not sure who you think are on admissions teams. Usually semi retired doctors. Who are/were consultants. But hey, carry on with the insults. Those slightly grimy if truth be told spires will still admit many WP students this year. Isn't that grand 😊

You believe that you are in a position to describe "Partha" as "awesome" and then you give him a surgical title.

It is a rookie error to think that consultant physicians (or professors of medicine) are called mister.

Are you sure that you have ever met a consultant (in anything)?

Scotiasdarling · 22/10/2025 19:29

Eh?

Sevillian · 22/10/2025 19:26

PurpleFairyLights · 22/10/2025 19:23

You have completely misunderstood the post. A word to the (not) wise. Save yourself further embarrassment and take a leaf out of @Sevillian book.

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This needs to be put through a word unscrambler; completely unintelligible as it stands.

Sevillian · 22/10/2025 19:25

PurpleFairyLights · 22/10/2025 19:19

Convenient

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Why on earth should I spend a valuable evening looking at your posts for you.

Incredibly unreasonable.

PurpleFairyLights · 22/10/2025 19:23

Scotiasdarling · 22/10/2025 19:09

Mumsneedwine before you keep digging yourself a bigger hole, anyone who knew him would know he is Dr. Kar not Mr.

You have completely misunderstood the post. A word to the (not) wise. Save yourself further embarrassment and take a leaf out of @Sevillian book.

PurpleFairyLights · 22/10/2025 19:19

Sevillian · 22/10/2025 19:03

There are a number of such posts. Read back yourself. Perhaps you've deleted them. No idea. I'm not wasting my evening looking at your posts, but they're there for sure. I need to cook supper and then watch Celebrity Traitors and then take the dogs out for an evening wee so that's my time fully accounted for thanks.

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Convenient

Scotiasdarling · 22/10/2025 19:09

Mumsneedwine before you keep digging yourself a bigger hole, anyone who knew him would know he is Dr. Kar not Mr.

Sevillian · 22/10/2025 19:03

There are a number of such posts. Read back yourself. Perhaps you've deleted them. No idea. I'm not wasting my evening looking at your posts, but they're there for sure. I need to cook supper and then watch Celebrity Traitors and then take the dogs out for an evening wee so that's my time fully accounted for thanks.

PurpleFairyLights · 22/10/2025 19:00

Sevillian · 22/10/2025 18:57

Ok. Startling that some posters agree with others and find poor SPaG annoying.

Without any shadow of a doubt you and mumsneedwine lead the charge (as on all the threads) for insults and for quite appalling rudeness.

I'm getting thanks by way of the little icon thingy - how can you see?

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Have you found my posts where I say things are "beyond me" yet?

Your insults are your trade mark.

PurpleFairyLights · 22/10/2025 18:58

Scotiasdarling · 22/10/2025 18:47

Mumsneedwine I know personally and very well doctors on admission teams. Sensible professionals who would never in a million years be laughing at something on mumsnet with some random woman at a work event.

Your description of these so called doctors handing round your phone is more like the behaviour of a class of 15 year olds, which I suppose is what you actually have experience of.

I think you would love to see yourself as one of the lads but with no knowledge of how those particular lads actually behave.

Doctors have a sense of humour and a lot of what the pro-IMG posters say is comedy gold.

A lot of doctors are reading the threads with interest but prefer not to post.

Sevillian · 22/10/2025 18:57

Ok. Startling that some posters agree with others and find poor SPaG annoying.

Without any shadow of a doubt you and mumsneedwine lead the charge (as on all the threads) for insults and for quite appalling rudeness.

I'm getting thanks by way of the little icon thingy - how can you see?

PurpleFairyLights · 22/10/2025 18:53

Sevillian · 22/10/2025 18:49

By a similar manner of posting do you mean calling out nonsense (including made up nonsense).

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Insults. Overly formal thanks to each other and picking out slight typos.

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