Jews leaving the UK

@decenteringmen do you know what Zionism means? It just means believing that Israel should exist. Not that you approve of Netanyahu, or the current war, or the actions of the government. It just means the belief that the country should exist.

Do you believe there are any other countries that should cease to exist?

And assuming you believe Israel should, what do you believe should happen to the Jews living there currently?

When you say “people have become Jew-haters” or connect Jewish identity to the actions of the Israeli government, that’s where it slips into antisemitism.
Criticising the Israeli government or calling out war crimes isn’t antisemitic — blaming or generalising about Jews as a group is. If you don't get that, then I can't help you, and if you don't agree, then I'm not going to change my position that this is antisemitic.

So Israel wouldn't have to commit genocide, if only surrounding countries would take all the Palestinians? Since they won't, Israel will have to kill and starve them, but that's other countries' fault?

10 x the amount of people killed in Gaza have been slaughtered in Yemen. Where are the people marching in protest of that? They're awfully quiet.

Yes I do. I criticise genocide anywhere and everywhere it happens.

Do you criticise/protest the actions of Saudi Arabia? Congo? Syria? Russia? Sudan? Only Israel? The only Jewish country in the world? That’s your answer. Hope that helps.

YES IT IS

You quoted me.
I responded.
I said it was all the starving children and genocide that got on peoples tits. Apparently that's ignorant and antisemitic.

ANTI ZIONISM IS NOT ANTI SEMITISM.

I am so, so sorry that you are made to feel that way, @Honeycottage. It's completely wrong, and I do feel for you. Sending hugs xxx 💐

But if you were to join the IRA with the great hunger as your justification that would be about revenge.

Jewish people train to defend their homeland from future threat, one which has always been pretty severe from all angles.

your comparison is like Isreal bombing the shit out of Germany because they’re still traumatised and and vengeful.

Stop using anti-semitic tropes

Why don't gazans have a right to safety in their homes? Why do their children not deserve the same safety as my children?

I think you really need to ask Hamas and Gaza about this directly. They could have ensured a very different path had Oct 7 massacre and hostage taking happened. They could have protected their homes, not to mention their children by handing the hostages back.

Listen I wouldn't accept my nearest and using the famine as justification to join the ira so I don't think it's right to accept the persecution of Jewish people as justification for what's happening in Gaza. People have free will. You can heal and stop perpetuating hatred

Who are you talking to? It can't be me, I have literally no idea what you're talking about. I've never said you can't be outraged at genocide - I agree, AS A JEW, that it is genocide.

I am all in favour of protesting the genocide; it is an atrocity. I have no idea how to do it without accusations of antisemitism.

You realise this is entirely on those who live in Gaza and who voted Hamas in? I do not think you have a single idea how much those who live in Gaza hate Jews, especially Israeli Jews. The are happy to use their own citizens, their own kin, their own children as human shields. Not one single Gazan would give up a single hostage or say where they were being hidden. Even in Nazi Germany, some Germans helped hid/save Jews.

There is a reason why Egypt have a high wall to get Gazans out. They don't want them. Gazans are too entrenched with radical Islam, a death cult.

I think you are also forgetting that Israel handed back Gaza, fleeing the strip. Gaza was prosperous, had green and glasshouses full of flowers and oranges to sell. That was some of their main exports. They also were given billions in foreiga aid. And what did Gazand do? Voted in Hamas who stole all the aid to line their pockets while they lived in Egypt, Qatar (to name a few places) and methodically stripped Gaza of any assets while building tunnels under the strip that are more expansive than the London Underground. From day one, Gaza was lobbing missiles into Israel and have done so ever since. Gaza are the ones constantly starting wars and they have no issue using their own citizens as collateral damage. Israel warn in advance of any missiles or attacks, they also drop aid. Gaza and Hamas do not do anything to help their own, they only use them to destroy Jews.

Wake up. For Gazans, this is not and has never been about them being safe. They will use their own to rid the world of Jews and Israels.

Instead of posting on here, maybe go to your local library or bookshop and buy yourself a copy of 'On Democracies and Death Cults. Israel, Hamas, and the Future of the West' by Douglas Murray. It will answer why your question is moot, and a whole lot more.

Oh, and a reminder to those who hear chants of 'Globalize the Intifada” at these so-called peaceful protests. It absolutely means killing Jews. Not so peaceful after all.

There is no genocide.

I've posted this article a number of times on different threads. It's a long read about the way in which the idea of a 'genocide' in Gaza has been manufactured and spread around the world. There are LOADS of links and references in it, all of which can be followed back to their sources. (It very much reminds me of the way 'men can be women' became an "established fact" supported by institutions around the world, despite the obvious truth.)

I don't think any of the pro-Palestine people on these threads have ever read it or even clicked through to have a skim. But honestly, they really should, because it's well-researched, clearly argued, and thoroughly evidenced. And if you read it and disagree, then great - rebutt the evidence and arguments to the same level and I'll listen to you with an open mind. But funny enough, no one has ever even tried.

www.spiked-online.com/2025/09/21/the-gaza-genocide-a-21st-century-blood-libel/

You’re not really responding to the specific conversation between our posts which was about why jews moving to Israel might look ant it as a honour or obligation to defend the homeland through conscription.

it’s nothing to do with Ireland or famine- it’s about why something that seems so negative to us might be viewed positively by some Jewish people, particularly those who chose to move to Israel.

The two Jewish families I know with dual nationality have left Israel for the U.K. because they cannot live with good conscience under their government there. They are both very secular and non practicing though, could be different. Neither have experienced antisemitism in the U.K. but again they don’t live “Jewish lives” so don’t stand out, perhaps others have more struggles

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I feel the same. Replies like “what more do you want?”, going on about “Zionists” as if they were fair game, even going as far as likening moving to Israel with joining ISIS…

She's right. It's incredibly poor taste. But at least it identifies you as a racist so people know to ignore your comments. Unless, of course they like racists. Useful marker either way.

How many people killed this month by the Afghan regime? How many by Israel? How many children murdered in each area awaiting aid? How much international aid blocked in each region?

Thats how things work for Anti-semites.

Italy has strong ties to Roman Catholicism. We didn't imprison all Catholics during WW2. You would have to go back to the 1600's or something for that kind of thinking.