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Do you think the Palestinian protests should be restricted?

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Yriovd · 05/10/2025 22:50

With talk of the potential police powers, what do you think?

YABU - no restrictions, allow them to go ahead every week as they currently do.

YANBU - restrict them so they’re allowed less frequently, or ban them altogether.

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noblegiraffe · 06/10/2025 18:45

DrPrunesqualer · 06/10/2025 18:44

Sledgehammers were to smash up equipment
Facts and truth are everything

And the police officer just put themselves in hospital.

DrPrunesqualer · 06/10/2025 18:44

JKLolling · 06/10/2025 18:15

What is sad is that the bad faith actors of Palestine Action are trying to overurn their ban by convincing the gullible and vulnerable in society to get themselves arrested in their name, so that the system gets overwhelmed and the ban has fo be overturned. Very Hamas like behaviour, the hiding behind the vulnerable. Many of the people holding placards won't know that PA took sledghammers and homemade whips to attack the police and the public.

I imagine they are going to be very regretful and humiliated during the trial in November. But then, they are adults who could have done basic research and just supported palestine instead 🤷‍♀️

Sledgehammers were to smash up equipment
Facts and truth are everything

Do you think the Palestinian protests should be restricted?
noblegiraffe · 06/10/2025 18:44

JKLolling · 06/10/2025 18:42

Genuinely, did you not read your own post? What on earth are you defending these vile terrorist thugs for? Are you one of the simpletons who has been arrested for holding a placard?

"He put an officer in hospital and was charged with actual bodily harm but I'm going to quibble about the method of putting him in hospital because that makes all the difference."

It's bizarre, isn't it? Do they ever pause to do any self reflection?

JKLolling · 06/10/2025 18:42

DrPrunesqualer · 06/10/2025 18:38

As posted by Plantatreetoday in August on your own thread noble

The charges !!
The news articles made in haste were wrong
The sledgehammer was brought to smash up equipment as the company were selling parts used in weapons used by Israel killing civilians in Gaza.

Genuinely, did you not read your own post? What on earth are you defending these vile terrorist thugs for? Are you one of the simpletons who has been arrested for holding a placard?

noblegiraffe · 06/10/2025 18:41

DrPrunesqualer · 06/10/2025 18:38

As posted by Plantatreetoday in August on your own thread noble

The charges !!
The news articles made in haste were wrong
The sledgehammer was brought to smash up equipment as the company were selling parts used in weapons used by Israel killing civilians in Gaza.

And indeed some were charged with aggravated burglary using a sledgehammer.

The one charged with grievous and actual bodily hard was charged with aggravated burglary using a sledgehammer as an offensive weapon and when you look up the meaning of offensive weapon it means a weapon intended or actually used to cause physical harm. Not just smashing up equipment.

So he was using a sledgehammer as an offensive weapon, caused actual and grievous bodily harm, a police officer ended up on hospital but actually the sledgehammer was totally innocent?

JKLolling · 06/10/2025 18:41

DrPrunesqualer · 06/10/2025 18:38

As posted by Plantatreetoday in August on your own thread noble

The charges !!
The news articles made in haste were wrong
The sledgehammer was brought to smash up equipment as the company were selling parts used in weapons used by Israel killing civilians in Gaza.

Did you miss where it said two police officers were seriously assualted?

DrPrunesqualer · 06/10/2025 18:38

noblegiraffe · 06/10/2025 18:08

The guy was charged with aggravated burglary using as sledgehammer as an offensive weapon, and he was also charged with grievous bodily harm and actual bodily harm. Offensive weapons are weapons used to injure, not smash stuff up.

And a police officer ended up in hospital.

You're not going to be able to paint this as a heroic act.

As posted by Plantatreetoday in August on your own thread noble

The charges !!
The news articles made in haste were wrong
The sledgehammer was brought to smash up equipment as the company were selling parts used in weapons used by Israel killing civilians in Gaza.

Do you think the Palestinian protests should be restricted?
Do you think the Palestinian protests should be restricted?
EasternStandard · 06/10/2025 18:28

Echobelly · 06/10/2025 18:09

Yes, and if the police were concerned about their time being wasted, maybe they could have made a decision not to arrest peaceful protestors so they could give their time to other things. That decision would also have given the protest much less attention, which is what the authorities would want.

Tbf the police have to follow the laws as they are.

usedtobeaylis · 06/10/2025 18:26

Absolutely not.

noblegiraffe · 06/10/2025 18:26

Have the protestors at least stopped banging on the window of McDonalds and shouting 'Shame on you' at the customers?

cityanalyst678 · 06/10/2025 18:22

It’s not fair on the businesses and people who live in central London. How would these people like tens of thousands of people taking over their streets and making their lives miserable, every single weekend? Amazing how these people have so much time on their hands. Do they full time jobs or just float through life?

noblegiraffe · 06/10/2025 18:18

And the co-founder of Palestine Action is currently waiting for his day in court for supporting Hamas and October 7th.

JKLolling · 06/10/2025 18:15

What is sad is that the bad faith actors of Palestine Action are trying to overurn their ban by convincing the gullible and vulnerable in society to get themselves arrested in their name, so that the system gets overwhelmed and the ban has fo be overturned. Very Hamas like behaviour, the hiding behind the vulnerable. Many of the people holding placards won't know that PA took sledghammers and homemade whips to attack the police and the public.

I imagine they are going to be very regretful and humiliated during the trial in November. But then, they are adults who could have done basic research and just supported palestine instead 🤷‍♀️

noblegiraffe · 06/10/2025 18:14

Echobelly · 06/10/2025 18:09

Yes, and if the police were concerned about their time being wasted, maybe they could have made a decision not to arrest peaceful protestors so they could give their time to other things. That decision would also have given the protest much less attention, which is what the authorities would want.

The protestors are not the good guys here.

They think they are, but they aren't. They're already supporting a group who put a police officer in hospital and who have a training manual and a list of targets including other RAF bases. Would you like those attacks on the RAF bases to go ahead? That's what 'I support Palestine Action' means.

A guy who was arrested for supporting Palestine Action came on MN and said that the planes that were attacked were used to refuel Israeli bombers. This isn't true. How stupid can you get, being arrested and not even having done basic research first?

Ihatetomatoes · 06/10/2025 18:11

LONDON, Jan 17 (Reuters) - Nine people appeared in a London court on Friday to deny offences including burglary, criminal damage, violent disorder and hitting a police officer with a sledgehammer, over an incident at a warehouse linked to Israeli defence firm Elbit.
The nine, who prosecutors have said were activists from the protest organisation Palestine Action, are accused of smashing their way into the Elbit Systems UK facility in Bristol, southwest England, in August.

At a previous hearing, prosecutors said a repurposed prison van was used to smash through fencing before some of the group damaged items in the warehouse using sledgehammers.
Four men and five women, aged between 20 and 51, appeared by video link on Friday at London's Old Bailey Court. All nine pleaded not guilty to aggravated burglary and causing criminal damage which has been estimated at 1 million pounds.
Seven of them also denied a charge of violent disorder, while one, Simon Corner, pleaded not guilty to a charge of causing grievous bodily harm with intent, for allegedly striking a police officer with a sledgehammer.
Another nine people also charged with offences over the incident appeared at Friday's hearing but did not enter pleas.
The first trial involving eight of the defendants is due to start in November, with the others appearing at two subsequent trials. A hearing will also be held to determine whether the cases should be treated as a terrorism matter.

Trials not taken place yet but charged as above. Reuters

Ihatetomatoes · 06/10/2025 18:10

DrPrunesqualer · 06/10/2025 18:01

RTFT and the thread on the attack

No one was charged with attacking anyone with a sledgehammer

The local Bristol paper reported incorrectly and others picked it up before anyone was charged with anything

The charge sheets show this very clearly

The reporting is wrong
Ive already sited this updated information.

LONDON, Jan 17 (Reuters) - Nine people appeared in a London court on Friday to deny offences including burglary, criminal damage, violent disorder and hitting a police officer with a sledgehammer, over an incident at a warehouse linked to Israeli defence firm Elbit.
The nine, who prosecutors have said were activists from the protest organisation Palestine Action, are accused of smashing their way into the Elbit Systems UK facility in Bristol, southwest England, in August.

At a previous hearing, prosecutors said a repurposed prison van was used to smash through fencing before some of the group damaged items in the warehouse using sledgehammers.
Four men and five women, aged between 20 and 51, appeared by video link on Friday at London's Old Bailey Court. All nine pleaded not guilty to aggravated burglary and causing criminal damage which has been estimated at 1 million pounds.
Seven of them also denied a charge of violent disorder, while one, Simon Corner, pleaded not guilty to a charge of causing grievous bodily harm with intent, for allegedly striking a police officer with a sledgehammer.
Another nine people also charged with offences over the incident appeared at Friday's hearing but did not enter pleas.
The first trial involving eight of the defendants is due to start in November, with the others appearing at two subsequent trials. A hearing will also be held to determine whether the cases should be treated as a terrorism matter.

Trials not taken place yet but charged as above. Reuters

Echobelly · 06/10/2025 18:09

HarrietPierce · 06/10/2025 17:42

"They deemed being arrested for selfies more important than allowing police to protect Jewish spaces after a terrorist attack."

I don't think the blind man and others in wheel chairs were really concerned about selfies. Jewish people were on the protest- were they just there for selfies too ? It was a peaceful sit down protest against the Genocide. Why is the MSM conflating a terrorist act in Manchester with a peaceful protest? Once again shows us that Palestinian lives are worth less than others. Netanyahu had no intention of pausing the genocide for the day.

Yes, and if the police were concerned about their time being wasted, maybe they could have made a decision not to arrest peaceful protestors so they could give their time to other things. That decision would also have given the protest much less attention, which is what the authorities would want.

noblegiraffe · 06/10/2025 18:08

DrPrunesqualer · 06/10/2025 18:01

RTFT and the thread on the attack

No one was charged with attacking anyone with a sledgehammer

The local Bristol paper reported incorrectly and others picked it up before anyone was charged with anything

The charge sheets show this very clearly

The reporting is wrong
Ive already sited this updated information.

The guy was charged with aggravated burglary using as sledgehammer as an offensive weapon, and he was also charged with grievous bodily harm and actual bodily harm. Offensive weapons are weapons used to injure, not smash stuff up.

And a police officer ended up in hospital.

You're not going to be able to paint this as a heroic act.

Echobelly · 06/10/2025 18:06

I'm Jewish and my husband and I have been on two Gaza marches each and will be going next Saturday for certain. They must absolutely not be banned, and especially not 'on behalf' of Jews - it will associate us with restricting freedom of speech and it's a dangerous route towards restricting more.

We have attended openly as Jews and never seen threatening behaviour or heard threatening words towards Jewish people. I gather some has occurred, I'm not going to prented there hasn't been a single incident, and they should be shut down by other attendees and the police - but in proportion to the vast numbers peacefully and respectfully attending, they a tiny minority and not a reason to stop the marches on something so important.

Ihatetomatoes · 06/10/2025 18:06

MaturingCheeseball · 06/10/2025 14:40

Dd was there on Saturday. She is quite a liberal but she came back saying she was disgusted by protestors yelling and screaming in the police’s faces, and also shouting at and frightening tourists.

The right to protest should be protected, but I think for a core group it’s less about protesting a cause and more about a day out aggressively causing trouble and getting a chance to attack the police.

This is what I've seen too. Awful behaviour.

DrPrunesqualer · 06/10/2025 18:01

noblegiraffe · 06/10/2025 17:54

Nope, the pensioners who are being arrested for supporting Palestine Action are supporting the group who did the sledgehammer attack.

RTFT and the thread on the attack

No one was charged with attacking anyone with a sledgehammer

The local Bristol paper reported incorrectly and others picked it up before anyone was charged with anything

The charge sheets show this very clearly

The reporting is wrong
Ive already sited this updated information.

noblegiraffe · 06/10/2025 17:54

DrPrunesqualer · 06/10/2025 17:52

RTFT
and look at the arrest sheets

You are incredibly out of date with this incorrect and inflammatory piece of news.

Nope, the pensioners who are being arrested for supporting Palestine Action are supporting the group who did the sledgehammer attack.

noblegiraffe · 06/10/2025 17:53

HarrietPierce · 06/10/2025 17:42

"They deemed being arrested for selfies more important than allowing police to protect Jewish spaces after a terrorist attack."

I don't think the blind man and others in wheel chairs were really concerned about selfies. Jewish people were on the protest- were they just there for selfies too ? It was a peaceful sit down protest against the Genocide. Why is the MSM conflating a terrorist act in Manchester with a peaceful protest? Once again shows us that Palestinian lives are worth less than others. Netanyahu had no intention of pausing the genocide for the day.

The arrests are a publicity stunt deliberately designed to waste police time. What else do you think they are for?

Deliberately wasting police time in the aftermath of a terrorist attack is disgusting.

And people are conflating the protests with the murder of Jews probably because people march calling for the murder of Jews at the protests.

DrPrunesqualer · 06/10/2025 17:52

JKLolling · 06/10/2025 17:04

Arrests after police officers hit with sledgehammer https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0mnnje4wlro

This is who the pensioners etc are supporting

RTFT
and look at the arrest sheets

You are incredibly out of date with this incorrect and inflammatory piece of news.

DrPrunesqualer · 06/10/2025 17:50

HarrietPierce · 06/10/2025 17:42

"They deemed being arrested for selfies more important than allowing police to protect Jewish spaces after a terrorist attack."

I don't think the blind man and others in wheel chairs were really concerned about selfies. Jewish people were on the protest- were they just there for selfies too ? It was a peaceful sit down protest against the Genocide. Why is the MSM conflating a terrorist act in Manchester with a peaceful protest? Once again shows us that Palestinian lives are worth less than others. Netanyahu had no intention of pausing the genocide for the day.

Agree