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My husband is giving up on our 7 year old daughter.

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daddywoe · 05/10/2025 21:28

We have 3 children and our middle one is autistic and has ADHD.
Dh is stressed and struggling with her and today he told me he doesn’t love her.
He has always been such a hands on dad and we’ve always said how we need to be a team and get through the tough times together but he doesn’t care anymore, she tells him she hates him and doesn’t want to talk to him and he just said fine, I’m done with her.
I can see that he means it, he doesn’t care anymore and I think he’s ready to give up and walk away.
I feel helpless, I need him because I’m struggling too.

OP posts:
persephonia · 05/10/2025 22:41

Lavender14 · 05/10/2025 22:18

I think this is really unfair. If this man normally doesn't have any abusive traits then he's actually just broken under the weight of what you're all carrying. I don't think jumping to divorce is necessarily the solution, many families carrying for children with sen hit crisis due to lack of support and then things do gradually change.

It may be though op that he needs to step back at least temporarily to give him the head space to think about what needs to change. And then he needs to actively work on that before deciding he's just throwing the towel in and giving up completely. He still has responsibilities to his kids and to you.

If, however, he has previous form for controlling/narcissistic or other abusive behaviours then you need to look at all of this through that lens and my answers would be very different.

I think a man or woman privately confessing these thoughts to a therapist, or even posting them on somewhere like Mumsnet is a different thing. Sometimes you need to get those thoughts out.. Directly telling his daughter he doesn't love her, and then talking his wife he wants to throw her of a bridge is completely different..it's not like it makes him capable of murder. But he clearly can't control himself and is thinking some very dark thoughts. I wouldn't 100% trust him to adequately cope with the daughter in a way that wasn't harmful (emotionally or physically).Let's put it that way...

DervlaGlass · 05/10/2025 22:40

TheTwitcher11 · 05/10/2025 22:39

You sound as bad as him love! What kind of response is this?!

It's reality. "How can he hate someone feral, aggressive and loveless who is ruining his life!"

How indeed.

MissDoubleU · 05/10/2025 22:40

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 05/10/2025 22:37

If he told you he was fantasising about hurting himself or killing himself, throwing himself off a bridge or jumping under a car or whatever poison of choice he would choose you would understandably seek immediate help to safeguard him from himself because a. He's told you how he feels and he can't help it and b. He has verbally expressed a plan to do it. Those are 2 of the things they look for when they're doing a mental health risk assessment.

Except he's externalising that to your poor daughter. He wants to hurt or kill her. This is so much more serious than you think it is OP.

But I'm really glad that you've been honest with us. It can be really hard saying these words outloud even on an anonymous forum.

You need to keep that strength and wake up first thing in the morning and put a plan in place with immediate effect.

This is the real issue. Everyone saying how he seems on the verge of a breakdown and his MH must be at breaking point I feel are missing the very serious point. He isn’t threatening to leave, he isn’t threatening to harm himself or end his own life. He is fantasising about murdering his own child.

The number one priority needs to be safeguarding her.

DervlaGlass · 05/10/2025 22:40

TheTwitcher11 · 05/10/2025 22:38

Unfortunately though, they do… because society is set up to ensure women are punished!

Well women choose not to leave nobody is making them stay more than the bloke.

TheTwitcher11 · 05/10/2025 22:39

DervlaGlass · 05/10/2025 22:36

Of course it's possible and sometimes totally understandable not to love your own child - some people are not loveable let's not pretend otherwise. If I were him I'd have left by now and not looked back. He probably loves the rest of you, though, and it will be awful for him. Honestly I'd want to send her elsewhere (back in the day she'd have gone into residential care) but obviously not an option now.

You sound as bad as him love! What kind of response is this?!

Sheridanbucket · 05/10/2025 22:39

Your daughter is not safe from him. To my mind, he needs to leave.

TheTwitcher11 · 05/10/2025 22:38

SepticPegsSepticLeg · 05/10/2025 22:36

He doesn't get to say he's done.

No fucking way.

We as women pour and pour and pour even though our cup is dry and men get to declare themselves "done"

You need to have serious words.

Unfortunately though, they do… because society is set up to ensure women are punished!

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 05/10/2025 22:37

If he told you he was fantasising about hurting himself or killing himself, throwing himself off a bridge or jumping under a car or whatever poison of choice he would choose you would understandably seek immediate help to safeguard him from himself because a. He's told you how he feels and he can't help it and b. He has verbally expressed a plan to do it. Those are 2 of the things they look for when they're doing a mental health risk assessment.

Except he's externalising that to your poor daughter. He wants to hurt or kill her. This is so much more serious than you think it is OP.

But I'm really glad that you've been honest with us. It can be really hard saying these words outloud even on an anonymous forum.

You need to keep that strength and wake up first thing in the morning and put a plan in place with immediate effect.

BruFord · 05/10/2025 22:37

It sounds as if he’s on the verge of a breakdown. What he said was so appalling that he’s clearly mentally unwell/on the verge of becoming unwell.

I agree with @Barnbrack that he needs to take responsibility for his own mental health.

It’s great that the school is so supportive. Do you have any support outside school? Has your child been offered any therapy and/or possibly medication (I know she’s young, but it can be life-changing from what I’ve been told).

TheTwitcher11 · 05/10/2025 22:36

daddywoe · 05/10/2025 22:29

Usually after school, the shaken coke bottle affect after masking all day but the school are really good and she had Sen support

Thanks for sharing - your daughter sounds similar to my son (also ASD diagnosed) who has just started school and is really struggling to control his emotions.

Sorry to hear about your predicament - it’s a hard enough journey without feeling you’ve been abandoned when times get really tough! Hope you’ve got some friends or family nearby who are able to offer some support

DervlaGlass · 05/10/2025 22:36

Of course it's possible and sometimes totally understandable not to love your own child - some people are not loveable let's not pretend otherwise. If I were him I'd have left by now and not looked back. He probably loves the rest of you, though, and it will be awful for him. Honestly I'd want to send her elsewhere (back in the day she'd have gone into residential care) but obviously not an option now.

SepticPegsSepticLeg · 05/10/2025 22:36

He doesn't get to say he's done.

No fucking way.

We as women pour and pour and pour even though our cup is dry and men get to declare themselves "done"

You need to have serious words.

DramaLlamacchiato · 05/10/2025 22:34

daddywoe · 05/10/2025 21:39

It’s worse than that he said he fantasises about throwing her off a bridge. He said he hates her, she is extremely challenging but he just can’t deal with it anymore.

Jesus Christ

TheTwitcher11 · 05/10/2025 22:31

Barnbrack · 05/10/2025 22:26

I disagree, he's an adult, as the adult he has a responsibility, him, not op, him as an adult! Has a responsibility to find a way to manage his responses, to step up and find a way through how he is reacting. Is it hard? Yes it is hard.

We have found systems where we need to have 3+ hours a day of exercise and activity which is also low demand so sports don't work, trampolining does, softplays do, bouncy castles do, sensory spaces do and my son's entire child disability payment goes on crash mats and weighted blankets and entry to trampolining, softplay, inflatables, ASN sessions at play places, arts equipment, crafts equipment, special interest equipment. We can't leave him with anyone else other than his granny for an hour here and there. We divide and conquer with the kids quite a bit. We need complicated systems to be able to clean the house and grocery shop. We've both battled anxiety and our own neurodivergent traits, because ADHD and autism don't come out of nowhere they're genetic. We've made mistakes etc but dehumanizing and abusive language like ops husband comes from a deeper place and yes he may need help but he needs away from the child for her sake more.

Do you mind me asking if your child is in a mainstream school or specialist provision? (I have 2 SEN children myself, this is not a goady question)

MissDoubleU · 05/10/2025 22:31

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 05/10/2025 22:29

Not feeling love for a child, hard to accept but I get it. To me, love isn't always how you feel, love is what you do. It's in every action you take for someone else, even if you don't feel the same for them as you do others of equal standing.

Fantasising murdering your child though, that's not something you should take lightly. He is 1 step away from hurting or killing her.

I am a person who can hold a grudge, who can hate and does hate many people, but wishing someone dead, by his own hands no less is not just fantasising, it's planning.

Agree. It’s absolutely terrifying and OP needs to step up to protect this incredibly vulnerable child.

MissDoubleU · 05/10/2025 22:30

Barnbrack · 05/10/2025 22:26

I disagree, he's an adult, as the adult he has a responsibility, him, not op, him as an adult! Has a responsibility to find a way to manage his responses, to step up and find a way through how he is reacting. Is it hard? Yes it is hard.

We have found systems where we need to have 3+ hours a day of exercise and activity which is also low demand so sports don't work, trampolining does, softplays do, bouncy castles do, sensory spaces do and my son's entire child disability payment goes on crash mats and weighted blankets and entry to trampolining, softplay, inflatables, ASN sessions at play places, arts equipment, crafts equipment, special interest equipment. We can't leave him with anyone else other than his granny for an hour here and there. We divide and conquer with the kids quite a bit. We need complicated systems to be able to clean the house and grocery shop. We've both battled anxiety and our own neurodivergent traits, because ADHD and autism don't come out of nowhere they're genetic. We've made mistakes etc but dehumanizing and abusive language like ops husband comes from a deeper place and yes he may need help but he needs away from the child for her sake more.

Absolutely-fucking-lutely.

And I’m sorry, but yes every parent has their breaking point but you put your big boy boots on and love that child anyway. Even if you feel like you do hate them, that is a vulnerable child. Your vulnerable child. You not only choose to love them but you choose not to be abusive towards them. You can choose not to tell them you hate them. Because tell you what, that vulnerable child will never forget it and likely never forgive it.

This isn’t me being harsh, it’s the reality with these neurotypes to fixate on these things and it will be very hard to begin to convince her again that her father is a safe and loving person.

daddywoe · 05/10/2025 22:29

TheTwitcher11 · 05/10/2025 22:23

Do you mind me asking if these meltdowns occur just at home or at school/ outside the home too?

Usually after school, the shaken coke bottle affect after masking all day but the school are really good and she had Sen support

OP posts:
Jimmyneutronsforehead · 05/10/2025 22:29

daddywoe · 05/10/2025 21:39

It’s worse than that he said he fantasises about throwing her off a bridge. He said he hates her, she is extremely challenging but he just can’t deal with it anymore.

Not feeling love for a child, hard to accept but I get it. To me, love isn't always how you feel, love is what you do. It's in every action you take for someone else, even if you don't feel the same for them as you do others of equal standing.

Fantasising murdering your child though, that's not something you should take lightly. He is 1 step away from hurting or killing her.

I am a person who can hold a grudge, who can hate and does hate many people, but wishing someone dead, by his own hands no less is not just fantasising, it's planning.

Greenwitchart · 05/10/2025 22:27

You can't ignore the fact that your husband has told you he has fantasies about hurting your daughter.

Tell him to move out for now and that he needs to sort his head and feelings out.

If not make it clear your marriage is over.

Your daughter has very likely picked up on the fact that her father does not like her and that is likely to make her act up even more.

She has the right to grow up in a safe environment where she is not ''hated'' by one of her parent and that should be your priority.

Barnbrack · 05/10/2025 22:27

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 05/10/2025 22:26

Good parents can still only cope with so much, and people's breaking points are different.

I don't think there is no way back from this, but the husband needs to accept help.

There should be now way he stays in the house until op has reassurance her child is safe.

Barnbrack · 05/10/2025 22:26

Lavender14 · 05/10/2025 22:18

I think this is really unfair. If this man normally doesn't have any abusive traits then he's actually just broken under the weight of what you're all carrying. I don't think jumping to divorce is necessarily the solution, many families carrying for children with sen hit crisis due to lack of support and then things do gradually change.

It may be though op that he needs to step back at least temporarily to give him the head space to think about what needs to change. And then he needs to actively work on that before deciding he's just throwing the towel in and giving up completely. He still has responsibilities to his kids and to you.

If, however, he has previous form for controlling/narcissistic or other abusive behaviours then you need to look at all of this through that lens and my answers would be very different.

I disagree, he's an adult, as the adult he has a responsibility, him, not op, him as an adult! Has a responsibility to find a way to manage his responses, to step up and find a way through how he is reacting. Is it hard? Yes it is hard.

We have found systems where we need to have 3+ hours a day of exercise and activity which is also low demand so sports don't work, trampolining does, softplays do, bouncy castles do, sensory spaces do and my son's entire child disability payment goes on crash mats and weighted blankets and entry to trampolining, softplay, inflatables, ASN sessions at play places, arts equipment, crafts equipment, special interest equipment. We can't leave him with anyone else other than his granny for an hour here and there. We divide and conquer with the kids quite a bit. We need complicated systems to be able to clean the house and grocery shop. We've both battled anxiety and our own neurodivergent traits, because ADHD and autism don't come out of nowhere they're genetic. We've made mistakes etc but dehumanizing and abusive language like ops husband comes from a deeper place and yes he may need help but he needs away from the child for her sake more.

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 05/10/2025 22:26

Barnbrack · 05/10/2025 22:17

I work long hours. My husband works long hours. Our son is at least as challenging. Good parents step up.

Good parents can still only cope with so much, and people's breaking points are different.

I don't think there is no way back from this, but the husband needs to accept help.

ACatNamedRobin · 05/10/2025 22:25

GoldPoster · 05/10/2025 22:13

I wouldn’t lbe capable of loving her and would be extremely wound up. It’s obviously terrible, but it would be what it was.

You can’t push yourself to feel things you don’t forever. I suppose you can pretend.

This - the same here.
Biology doesn't overcome everything / all horrible behaviour.

TheTwitcher11 · 05/10/2025 22:23

daddywoe · 05/10/2025 22:02

She has ASD and ADHD and oppositional defiance disorder so she’s very defiant which he finds frustrating.
She has melt downs and screams and swears and becomes aggressive and hateful which can last up to half an hour multiple times a day.
He is usually a good dad, he’s always been my rock but he’s just had enough and doesn’t want to know anymore.

Do you mind me asking if these meltdowns occur just at home or at school/ outside the home too?

Littlejellyuk · 05/10/2025 22:22

What support network have you got OP? Do you have family and friends that live locally? Can you access extra support amd/or respite care at all? 🤔
It sounds like he is at breaking point and you all need support. 😔

Edited to say, I hope you're okay xx