Antarctica

Kier Starmer has said it is to stop mass immigration. I believe that was his original reason to have them in the first place. It sounds to me you are trying to rewrite reality now it is generally recognised as being a lie.

The Canadian government under Justin Trudeau was forcing vaccine mandates on the Truckers. They did not want it and protested peacefully. Trudeau lied and said they were violent. Youtubers showed they were not and these Truckers and supporters were just normal people. The public gave money to something like a GoFundMe. It got massive public support. Trudeau forced the site to block that funding, a digital transaction. Youtubers supporting the Truckers were targeted and stopped reporting. This is all verifyibly true. Not a conspiracy, all provably true.

In the UK, mandates were put on care home workers for the same reason. Again, provably true.

Since that time, JFK in the US has questioned the vaccines. Again, provably true.

So, Starmer is now saying that these digital ids are to be able to work in the UK. So, all these people who signed that petition may be refused work in the UK, if they chose not to have a Digital Id. Many are likely to be born in the UK, but will potentially be refused a right of work? That is draconian in the extreme.

What about the next time the government want to force a questionable medical intervention on people so they can work in this country? A precedent has already been set in the last lockdown for some workers. The WEF have stated they want vaccine status on digital ids. Again, provably true. What if our government goes along with that? They regularly kowtow to EU and WEF nonsense.

I think your reply clearly shows why Digital Ids are bad.

Again, I strongly advise people to sign the petition to stop Digital Ids while they can. Do not let people like FlyMeSomewhere alter reality after the fact:

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194?v=2

I don't understand the strange things people are claiming are coming from the WEF, it a.swwns totally made up about WEF. They are not going to issue us all with our own personal government official who will follow us around and our homes, tell us when we can ride our bikes, follow us around the supermarket telling us what we can and can't put in our trolley? Nobody has told anyone they are to stop boats coming across, that's conspiracy theorist always coming up with their own version of things! They are to make sure people are being employed legally and have a right to work here, it gives people protection that someone with a dangerous record can't hide and be employed unsuitably, it stops benefit fraud, stops voting fraud, stops driving test fraud! Sounds sensible to me!
I travelled last month and crossed borders like 12 times so why do I need to be neurotic when I'm often on systems moving about!

As a PhD mathematician, I do believe the this Antarctic theory of the OP's friend is improbable and almost certainly untrue. The maths just does not work if the OP's friend was correct. For those on this thread who have gone to Antarctica, then this appears to verify its untruth.

But, as for your comments on digital ids and conspiracy theories, I think you are wrong. If the WEF are openly stating these are their aims, televise lectures with this draconian lunacy, and heads of state and royalty are going every year to Davos to bend the knee to these nutjobs, then it clearly is NOT a conspiracy.

Just because you do not choose to read/view it does not make it unreal or a conspiracy. In fact, the opposite is true and you are the conspiracy theorist for ignoring evidence that says your ideologic viewpoint is wrong.

Digital Ids will not stop the boats as Keir claims. Its lunacy to think it will. Why are those with left-leanings wanting ids, but those opposed to mass immigration on the centre or right oppose ids?

Do not expect the BBC or others to tell you the truth. We hear every day from Kier and the BBC news how Labour have a massive mandate from the public. But this is not true, using the official government figures.

Only 20% of the total electorate voted for Labour. This is a provable truth from government figures. A massive 80% of the total electorate did not vote for Labour. Kier has no mandate at all to do anything. And, he is even losing support from these people who did vote for him.

There is an official petition against the Digital Ids. Since petitions only typically get less than 100,000 signatories, the present 2.8 Million is massive. I cannot presently find the figures myself, but this is alleged to be between a quarter and a third of the number of people who voted for Starmer and Labour at the last General election. So, the millions for this petition are massive and staggering.

If you are opposed to these Digital Ids, I strongly advise you to sign it while you can. Digital Ids have no purpose, but for unsavoury government activity.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194?v=2

I swear to god that conspiracy theorism is like some sort of mental illness that gullible people spread to each other! They come yo with things that don't make an inch of sense! I had someone ranting about digital ID, he said we would have to ask the government permission to go out for a ride on our push bikes, we'd get told at the tills in the shops what the government says we can and can't buy! How would that ever work! Why would the government do such silly and pointless things! But when you challenge that that, all you get is "you mark my words"! Social media is making these people ill and needs to do something about it.
It's like the beautiful auroras last year, it proved morons claiming it wasn't aurora, it's someone poisoning us! They don't know who, how it why but swear blind it is because how come we never used to see them - it's because we didn't have apps on phones telling us to when to go outside and look for it! They refuse to acknowledge clear logic!

Well I’ve actually been to South Georgia (went on an RFA ship when I lived in the Falklands). No impenetrable ice walls…but it was icy 🥶🤣

Ah, ha. PrincesofWells, we have caught you out. [Points finger accusingly.] It is you that is the conspiracy theorist.

The Pingu cartoons clearly show Polar Bears and Penguins playing together. Trust the science.

Penguins but no polar bears. The Arctic has the polar bears but no penguins.

I prefer penguins.

FIL has become like this. Not with Antarctica but during lockdown became a COVID denier despite initially shitting himself, isolating then moving to the Irish countryside. Now he's anti Big Pharma despite relying on daily meds to live and believes all kinds of AI nonsense. If I ever try to discuss this with him it actually hurts my brain. Gets all 'gotcha! See you didn't know that did you? Call yourself a teacher? I thought you knew everything.....' etc etc etc 😮‍💨 there ain't no arguing with stoopid.
He also doesn't believe that ADHD is 'a thing' and his nephews are just naughty despite every male in the family being exactly the same including him!

My DN is exactly the same. She posts videos of flat earth theories on our family page all the time.
I sometimes read the comments on the videos and they are all as batshit as each other.
They think Antarctica circles the world as a giant ice wall and that the Earth is covered by a dome called the firmament.
They say asteroids and meteors cannot enter our atmosphere because of the dome. Also by the same token we didn’t go to the moon since nothing can get past the dome.
I’ve challenged them for photographic proof of the edge of the world but unsurprisingly they’ve come up with nothing, but then if they can’t enter Antarctica they can’t take any pictures can they 🙄.
It’s come to the point where I don’t open her videos as they just do my head in.
Her thing at the moment is we are all ruled by reptilians. Give me strength 🤦🏼‍♀️

What flat-earthers claim is impossible. Simply impossible. It just doesn't add up to anything approaching a coherent theory and would require a vast conspiracy among sailors, pilots, space agencies, communication network providers, cartographers and a thousand other disciplines to carry off. And is still easily disprovable by going to the seaside and watching ships disappear over the horizon.

There's a value to keeping an open mind but one must be careful not to be so open that ones brain falls out. Flerfers are gullible idiots believing bullshit theories pushed by a mix of cynical liars and religious nuts.

h friend works out there too and I’ve got these pics as well.

@pintofpkss Sounds like your friend is a flat earther.

I'm sure some of the many people who actually work down there would have mentioned it! I had a friend who visited a couple of times with people from her workplace, she didn't come back with batshit tales.

Unless you’ve been and seen with your own eyes if whatever the conspiracy theorists claim is there actually exists or not – then no one truly knows for certain.

I voted YABU for listening to the crank for more then thirty seconds.

they are actually freezing again at present but they think it might just be some sort of anomaly and not a new ice age!!

Penguin Post Office.

Honestly. Miles of nothing. Its an incredible place and I'm so glad many countries realise how precious and important this place is for all of us and want to protect ut.

Fingers crossed that lasts - looking at you, Donald, and your meddlesome nonsense.

I'm sorry about your friend. Truly its a magical place.

Lots of ice, penguins, seals and whales. I was there in January.

Countries have signed an agreement document. The Antarctic treaty which agrees no militarisation, no dog sleds, no building, no mining etc etc. the reason not many people go there is because it is a massive wildlife reserve and climate research centre.

Having said that you can visit as a tourist on the peninsula. I'd suggest he goes and sees for himself. You probably won't see him again if he wanders off into the icy wilderness to find out but I doubt it'll be because he's fallen off the edge

Seriously it's not hard to find counter arguments. Some people are beyond help!

I've just made a note to myself to talk about biased articles and fake news in my geography lessons again this week.

The Thing!

Shape shifting stuff from outer space and creeping horrors that you can't pronounce their names.

I've seen Alien Vs Predator so I know what's under the ice/snow.

Does his name begin with a J? I had a long chat with a colleague who believed in the conspiracies you describe 😆

I am a big fan of the heroic age if antarctic explorers and a great book called Hoosh about the culinary history of Antarctica (yes there is one!) So my knowledge is based on this, but it's something of a neutral land mass where science prevails and no country has a claim to it by agreement. It's actually a well explored place considering there's not much there and how incredibly hostile the landscape is.

I will say what I said to my colleague J, there are real terrible things being parading in front of us in plain sight by the powers that be, but by all means continue to believe what you want about the Antarctic conspiracies 😅

His arrogance is astounding!

Apart from this batshittery is he a good friend?