11 million immigrants since 2000. When I

So you what to change it to There has been some/lots/a few immigrants since 2000. I can see why MN might have found that unhelpful

OP clarified the title:

It cut my title in half - was supposed to say ‘when is our population too high?’

Changing the title to just 'when is our population too high?' would start the same discussion without any figures

Better?! Oh you are funny.

You repeatedly colluded with OP without once questioning the figure.

Why do you keep asking me the same questions?

So you what to change it to There has been some/lots/a few immigrants since 2000. I can see why MN might have found that unhelpful

I see this a lot with older people in my line of work ( benefits). They've been in living in Spain for years then start getting health problems so come home. Invariably house prices have risen hugely in the years they've been away and they can't buy so looking for housing, housing benefits etc. I guess they've often paid taxes here for many years though so not like they haven't contributed.
The situation ( that I also see a lot) that makes me most annoyed though is elderly unwell men in their sixties and seventies bringing over young wives ( often in their 20's) form India and Pakistan to be their carers. These young women can't work, and whilst they can't get benefits until they get indefinite leave to remain, the husband can still start claiming benefits for the kids. They always seem able to father a couple of kids with this new wife whilst being disabled enough to need a carer. The women are stuck with not much english and unable to work. If the husband dies they have very limited language and job opportunities.

I said people can work it out, other posters did, fine by me. If you’re going to say other people are posting ‘lies’ perhaps check your figures first.

And yet never questioned the OP. Funny that.

Um, again, I answered about 4 minutes ago. What’s wrong with you all!

I asked them to remove the number which is your unverified estimation and leave the thread. This would seem a sensible start point for discussion no?

The environmental crisis is driving immigration as parts of the world become uninhabitable.

Of course, if we genuinely cared about these things we'd support climate measures and increase foreign aid. We'd set up asylum processing centres in Europe so that all claims could be properly assessed and those with valid claims could then proceed. Safer and a lot less expensive for all.

But oops, Reform wouldn"t support any of these things. Why do that when you could whip up hate instead?

Have you changed your view in the light of the data being 100% different to what you believed before? Or is your view set regardless of the data?

It wasn't fabricated. It was the correct data but fundamentally misinterpreted.

I’ve already explained that the figure of 2.5m was taken from a different thread and I posted the google data from that thread.

At least I’m willing to re-look at data. You seem fixated on your 11m lie, like a robot.

You are aware there are people posting who didn’t write the thread title?

I haven’t used 11m. I did question your figure as it was wrong.

I mean I hope they all get arrested for inciting anti semitism

I’ve already explained that the figure of 2.5m was taken from a different thread and I posted the google data from that thread.

At least I’m willing to re-look at data. You seem fixated on your 11m lie, like a robot.

Yes, they did lead to higher immigration.

I’m not calling for more immigration. I’m just not a fan of demonising immigrants and asylum seekers.

And your 2.5m figure, a lie?

My frustration is that we keep being told there is an environmental crisis and we need to invest in renewable resources which is fine but why then would you keep allowing more people to come here who surely create more of an issue with water, sewage and resources.

I would rather we kept our countryside for farming or for wildlife not more concrete boxes and flats

lol- is this from the thread where the figure comes from you’re “research across the internet”

Well I asked my mates down the pub, sorry, during my research across the UK hospitality sector and they think you’re talking a load of codswhallop.

Absolutely. Eventually they dodge clear questions so much you realise they’re trying to make the argument so incomprehensible it can mean anything they want it to mean.

interesting - apparently most of those who are anti-immigration self identify as racists!

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5421742-81-of-those-anti-mass-immigration-identify-as-racists?reply=147590142