11 million immigrants since 2000. When I

Refer to my post of 10.26 and then come back and apologise. You are again posting lies and misinformation.

Good question

Interesting that you use the term white flight as this is quite a loaded term that implies racism, at least that's my knowledge of the word as I thought it was originally used to describe white people in the US in the 40s-50s leaving areas after black people moved there.

I think the same still applies though- areas go downhill because of government failings. White people more likely to have the money to leave so they do, immigrants don't. I don't think it's the fault of the immigrants but the government.

Reducing immigration may be necessary but only as a temporary measure, a sticking plaster while we fix the actual root issues. But the government wouldn't do that as someone said upthread, they're just interested in short term (4 year) measures to get reelected, no one is thinking long term

And yet didn’t question the OP or Bumblebee on 11m.

Er no. I questioned you on the 2.5m.

Which was posted by me, therefore my number.

Here is what Bumblebee was posting before I corrected him/her:

ONS says population of the UK ins 2000 was 58,886,100 and in 2024 it was 69,281,437. The official number to mid 2024 was 10.4m, plus the increase in the last year suggest 11m is about right.

I posted it as 6.6m at 12.29.

You backed down to 7-8m at 12.56.

Why pretend otherwise when it’s upthread?

Yes I understand what you are saying.

however there is definitely white flight in the area which is a shame

Closer to what the number is.

But is this because of immigrants directly? From my perspective it's down to government mismanagement that's been going on for decades. Under investment, poor decision making. I feel like immigrants are being scapegoated after successive governments have let British people down

Wrong again. I'm not sure what you are trying achieve on this thread other than tying poster in knots with nonsense. You seem intent on calling people liars which posting misinformation yourself. You don't seem to understand that 11m is the increase in population that is not the same thing as the net migration. A bit like the number for 2012-2023 is not the same the number for 2000-2025 but at least we seem to have persuaded you of that. There are ranges of estimates. The ONS says 7m net but doesn't include 2025 so an estimate needs to be added.

According the ONS
10.3m increase in population from 2000-2025
16m people moved to the uk in that period.
8m left the uk in that period.
This leave 2.3m to a result of increased life expectancy offsetting birth rates .

I posted that bridge hours ago.

Closer to which figure? Mine?

I agree

its quite depressing to see where you live locally totally change for the worse and it’s so unnecessary

‘You seem..’ line is wrong too, I’ve posted three times @Bumblebee72figures are closer.

Not RTFT, @Uggbootsforever as I get annoyed with everyone saying 'source'? I don't care about the source, we haven't got the space, housing, money, NHS treatment etc to keep letting people in.
I'm fine with sending food wherever, if that's what people need, but am totally pissed off with more & more people crowding in, it's taking the piss. I don't expect people to agree, & frankly couldn't care less whether they do or not, this is MY opinion.

I’ve already explained that the figure of 2.5m was taken from a different thread and I posted the google data from that thread.

At least I’m willing to re-look at data. You seem fixated on defending the 11m lie.

She said an accurate number probably doesn't exist, which you seem to be agreeing with here? There's a huge variation in official estimates. So we don't really know an accurate number.

Attacking posters with ‘lies’ posts doesn’t make sense anyway, but especially not if your 2.5m was wrong.

She doesn't so apparently the ONS don't know either. If only we had a body in the UK controlling these types of statistics.

Look at the chain, she only backed down to 7-8m AFTER i said it was 6.6m.

So much wrong with this! The OP seems to be pulling numbers out of mid air and not understanding so very much. AIBU? Yes OP, you are.

Hello, not sure if you’ve read the post you’re responding to properly here….try again.

Good idea