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11 million immigrants since 2000. When I

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Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 08:40

Sorry, it’s another immigration one.

I always see immigration discussed in terms of race, religion, who may or may not be a good fit for the UK, whether it’s by small boats - to be honest, this is not the biggest worry for me.

The biggest worry is the sheer increase in our population and how many people this country can reasonably accommodate. We are now 8th in Europe for population density - only behind Belgium and the Netherlands, and a handful of places like Vatican City and the Channel Islands. At present we have net migration of around 500,000 a year.

I’m worried that the key issues of overpopulation are being overlooked to make this conversation all about race. What about our pollution levels, wildlife habitats, flood risk, food security, infrastructure? Will this eventually be a polluted city state country? It seems to be heading that way.

Posters always say we need immigration, but we have already welcome 11 million since 2000. If that still isn’t enough; what is? Or do we just keep going?

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Bumblebee72 · 04/10/2025 18:34

SerendipityJane · 04/10/2025 18:23

Facts ?

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You were outraged that 1 in 7 people are immigrants not us. Now you seem to be confused as it evidenced by the OECD. I don't care it is in 1 in 7, 1 in 5 whatever, I think the UK would be served by being a meritocracy - you can contribute come, if not leave, including kicking the British who nothing. We used transport people to the colonies but that is not longer in favour, and to be frank I can't see many countries willing to take our layabouts.

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Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 18:33

Myrtletown · 04/10/2025 18:32

I think you two should take this to DM’s. Your own little chamber of fear and panic and self congratulation to the exclusion of all fact. Whale of a time!

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And yet 74% of this website agree with me. You’re in the minority - maybe you should take it to DMs?

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Myrtletown · 04/10/2025 18:32

Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 18:28

Because all they can do is spam, attack the person and make silly unrelated jokes. They know deep down this is a slow motion car crash, but they’re banking on other people dealing with it so they don’t look ‘racist’ - a label they’ve been flinging at everyone else.

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I think you two should take this to DM’s. Your own little chamber of fear and panic and self congratulation to the exclusion of all fact. Whale of a time!

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Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 18:32

We don’t have to produce a number to prove your number is made up

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Myrtletown · 04/10/2025 18:31

We don’t have to produce a number to prove your number is made up. You have literally time and time again showed how you’ve estimated a number - it is not a real one. I don’t have a number because there isn’t one fixed number that is published. In the absence of this you can’t just do some rudimentary maths from varying sources and come up with a number!!!

I wouldn’t give a flying fuck if the number was 11m - great. But it’s not. That’s your absolutely inexpert extrapolation of population data into numbers of immigrants.

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Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 18:28

SerendipityJane · 04/10/2025 18:24

"We" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.

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Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 18:28

Bumblebee72 · 04/10/2025 18:26

Your absolutely obsessed we've had people who don't believe the ONS and don't believe the OECDs reports.

Yet no-one is willing to put any ideas as to how we manage population growth without driving a further housing crisis and/or food prices. I can only assume everyone who posts have no problem with the cost of living.

People just either want to say the ONS is wrong or be childish. The odd thing is there a lot that is being posted that is a value judgement on immigration other than from the people are would appear to pro immigration.

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Because all they can do is spam, attack the person and make silly unrelated jokes. They know deep down this is a slow motion car crash, but they’re banking on other people dealing with it so they don’t look ‘racist’ - a label they’ve been flinging at everyone else.

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Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 18:27

SerendipityJane · 04/10/2025 18:23

Facts ?

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Complete calculation 1 page up.

No doubt everyone will carry on saying it’s made up, but it’s all there, and I await your meticulous correction from your own sources.

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Bumblebee72 · 04/10/2025 18:26

Myrtletown · 04/10/2025 18:20

This is gold. Distracting people from ‘facts’ that you’ve literally made up!

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Your absolutely obsessed we've had people who don't believe the ONS and don't believe the OECDs reports.

Yet no-one is willing to put any ideas as to how we manage population growth without driving a further housing crisis and/or food prices. I can only assume everyone who posts have no problem with the cost of living.

People just either want to say the ONS is wrong or be childish. The odd thing is there a lot that is being posted that is a value judgement on immigration other than from the people are would appear to pro immigration.

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Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 18:26

PinkFrogss · 04/10/2025 18:24

OP has a different understanding of numbers to many of us, perhaps she has a different understanding of words too, and doesn’t realise the general definition of the word.

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And yet not a single one of you have presented an evidence alternative number. Why not?

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PinkFrogss · 04/10/2025 18:24

Myrtletown · 04/10/2025 18:20

This is gold. Distracting people from ‘facts’ that you’ve literally made up!

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OP has a different understanding of numbers to many of us, perhaps she has a different understanding of words too, and doesn’t realise the general definition of the word.

SerendipityJane · 04/10/2025 18:24

Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 18:23

So? Who cares. We are discussing further immigration, not existing ones.

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"We" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.

TwoBagsOfCompost · 04/10/2025 18:24

Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 18:23

So? Who cares. We are discussing further immigration, not existing ones.

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Sorry, can't hear you, I'm busy reproducing and stealing acres of land while working my unskilled job.

SerendipityJane · 04/10/2025 18:23

Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 18:15

Yes the silliness usually pops up to distract from facts.

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Facts ?

Myrtletown · 04/10/2025 18:23

@TwoBagsOfCompost Bumblebee posts a fair few garbled posts - I called one out earlier and they didn’t respond back. I fear wine may be being consumed….

edited to add their earlier one that made no sense…..

Ballerina never back after the links that validate the scale is in the right ball if not completely correctly label. If you she so shocked that understanding was that she has gone to sign up for Reform.

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Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 18:23

TwoBagsOfCompost · 04/10/2025 18:18

I can't help it, I'm forrin.

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So? Who cares. We are discussing further immigration, not existing ones.

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Petrolitis · 04/10/2025 18:22

thedramaQueen · 04/10/2025 09:02

Yes it is

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Exactly it's a discussion forum

TwoBagsOfCompost · 04/10/2025 18:22

Bumblebee72 · 04/10/2025 18:20

I think mean a child.

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Eh?

Bumblebee72 · 04/10/2025 18:20

TwoBagsOfCompost · 04/10/2025 18:18

I can't help it, I'm forrin.

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I think mean a child.

Myrtletown · 04/10/2025 18:20

Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 18:15

Yes the silliness usually pops up to distract from facts.

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This is gold. Distracting people from ‘facts’ that you’ve literally made up!

TwoBagsOfCompost · 04/10/2025 18:18

Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 18:15

Yes the silliness usually pops up to distract from facts.

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I can't help it, I'm forrin.

TwoBagsOfCompost · 04/10/2025 18:17

pointythings · 04/10/2025 18:09

Well, damn. Totally didn't know I needed to do that with my two DC 22 and 24 years ago. One EU parent, one US parent, so 100% forrin. Right then, better start practising in case we're called upon to undermine some British values.

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Do not fret my child. Not all forrins are equal. The US person is OK. Where is the EU person from? The good Europe or the bad Europe? If they're from the bad Europe then I'm afraid they're a forrin, but if they're from the good Europe then welcome welcome welcome 😊😊😊

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Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 18:15

TwoBagsOfCompost · 04/10/2025 18:13

It doesn't hurt trying I suppose, but if a baby has forrin parents then may God have mercy on its soul.

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Yes the silliness usually pops up to distract from facts.

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TwoBagsOfCompost · 04/10/2025 18:13

Myrtletown · 04/10/2025 18:08

I think it can be ok if you daub a St George flag over their face within 24 hours of birth.

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It doesn't hurt trying I suppose, but if a baby has forrin parents then may God have mercy on its soul.

pointythings · 04/10/2025 18:09

Myrtletown · 04/10/2025 18:08

I think it can be ok if you daub a St George flag over their face within 24 hours of birth.

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Well, damn. Totally didn't know I needed to do that with my two DC 22 and 24 years ago. One EU parent, one US parent, so 100% forrin. Right then, better start practising in case we're called upon to undermine some British values.

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