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11 million immigrants since 2000. When I

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Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 08:40

Sorry, it’s another immigration one.

I always see immigration discussed in terms of race, religion, who may or may not be a good fit for the UK, whether it’s by small boats - to be honest, this is not the biggest worry for me.

The biggest worry is the sheer increase in our population and how many people this country can reasonably accommodate. We are now 8th in Europe for population density - only behind Belgium and the Netherlands, and a handful of places like Vatican City and the Channel Islands. At present we have net migration of around 500,000 a year.

I’m worried that the key issues of overpopulation are being overlooked to make this conversation all about race. What about our pollution levels, wildlife habitats, flood risk, food security, infrastructure? Will this eventually be a polluted city state country? It seems to be heading that way.

Posters always say we need immigration, but we have already welcome 11 million since 2000. If that still isn’t enough; what is? Or do we just keep going?

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BallerinaRadio · 04/10/2025 08:51

TeenagersAngst · 04/10/2025 08:49

The UK is not overpopulated in the strictest sense, if you drive around there are miles and miles and miles of countryside which is not built upon.

The problem is that immigration tends not to be planned for beyond which jobs we have trouble recruiting for from the native population. So immigrants tend to settle in cities where the jobs are and this puts pressure on specific areas. Infrastructure expansion is not planned for or funded.

Of course, none of that gets away from the fact that massive population changes in a short period of time can have negative impacts on other aspects of life and should be carefully considered in the round.

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Canle1905 · 04/10/2025 08:50

Do you have any option on the home countries of these immigrants. Recently I am hearing of more people coming here from SA, USA and Australia. In all cases they are coming here for health care reasons. They often are one UK citizen who moved abroad more than 30 years ago but now have an ailing spouse and want access to NHS. In some cases adult children who have UK passports but have never contributed to this country are coming with their parent. I honestly have no idea what these people can access once here and would like to know. However in all situations their biggest financial concern is how to avoid paying tax on assets or pensions.

BallerinaRadio · 04/10/2025 08:50

Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 08:48

Our population has increased by 11 million since 2000. British families haven’t been having enough children to sustain the population for some time now, so it makes sense. If you go to the Office for Statistics online the numbers are there.

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And you think that whole 11 million is immigrants? I think you've had a bit of a mare here and should probably delete this post

Fooshufflewickjbannanapants · 04/10/2025 08:50

Well the UK population has increased by approximately 8 million since 2000 so…….

TeenagersAngst · 04/10/2025 08:49

The UK is not overpopulated in the strictest sense, if you drive around there are miles and miles and miles of countryside which is not built upon.

The problem is that immigration tends not to be planned for beyond which jobs we have trouble recruiting for from the native population. So immigrants tend to settle in cities where the jobs are and this puts pressure on specific areas. Infrastructure expansion is not planned for or funded.

Of course, none of that gets away from the fact that massive population changes in a short period of time can have negative impacts on other aspects of life and should be carefully considered in the round.

NaanPeshwari · 04/10/2025 08:48

It's not just 11 million people have come.

You've also had X people leave.

Then you birth and death. X people died. X people born.

So we didn't just add 11 million people. Slightly misleading.

From ONS :

The UK population at mid-year 2021 was estimated to be 67.0 million, an increase of 3.7 million (5.9%) on the population in mid-2011.

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Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 08:48

BallerinaRadio · 04/10/2025 08:44

Where did you get the 11 million figure from?

Our population has increased by 11 million since 2000. British families haven’t been having enough children to sustain the population for some time now, so it makes sense. If you go to the Office for Statistics online the numbers are there.

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BallerinaRadio · 04/10/2025 08:47

Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 08:45

No, that’s the net number (unless the source I found is wrong). There was nearly a million a year for quite a while so it’s not hard to believe.

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And what's your source? 11 million can't be right

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Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 08:45

NebulousWhistler · 04/10/2025 08:44

Thats just the headline number though.
That’s unlikely to be the net number. .

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No, that’s the net number (unless the source I found is wrong). There was nearly a million a year for quite a while so it’s not hard to believe.

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BallerinaRadio · 04/10/2025 08:44

Where did you get the 11 million figure from?

NebulousWhistler · 04/10/2025 08:44

fizzyroselemonade · 04/10/2025 08:42

ranked 8th for population density in Europe does not automatically translate to overpopulation

Thats just the headline number though.
That’s unlikely to be the net number. .

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Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 08:43

fizzyroselemonade · 04/10/2025 08:42

ranked 8th for population density in Europe does not automatically translate to overpopulation

Well not in the sense that it’s a subjective term so anyone can say ‘oh it’s not overpopulated’ and there’s no hard marker to prove them wrong.

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fizzyroselemonade · 04/10/2025 08:42

ranked 8th for population density in Europe does not automatically translate to overpopulation

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Uggbootsforever · 04/10/2025 08:41

It cut my title in half - was supposed to say ‘when is our population too high?’

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