11 million immigrants since 2000. When I

If you look at the population pyramid, it's actually older age groups who are increasing the numbers. Immigrants are almost all working age and necessarily filling the gap. The vast majority are either students or people who are working in your local hospital or hotel or construction site and doing valuable jobs.

I don't know the figure. But I'm not the one claiming my "easily worked out" figure is a fact. Just because I don't know (a brief Google suggests you're wrong from multiple sources) it doesn't make your figure true FFS 😂

Absolutely. It’s happening in plain sight, and I think it’s going to be the ‘new’ problem the government are going to have to address. My industry is being hugely compromised by AI. From advertising many roles several years ago, we’re now adverting nothing. Voluntary redundancies are no more. Now it’s compulsory ones.

O you honestly believe that all these “extra” people are going to be working? What jobs? NHS? Women from certain communities do not work, neither do their daughters. And the men certainly won’t be wiping bums in care homes. Also everyone grows old. The problem of pensions/care doesn’t end when the current horrid old waste-of-space boomers have popped their clogs (others’ opinion of them)

As for the countryside… er, farming? Food? Much of it moorland, mountainous, hard rock, marshy… And if you build over, say, Wiltshire, where are people going to work? Are they all just going to sit in new-builds claiming benefits?

Even if immigration was stopped tomorrow people are still going to be angry until this is sorted, only at the moment they have a perceived acceptable source to blame. And in fact they might get more annoyed when they find there is no one to do the jobs in the NHS and caring services.

It really does annoy me how all our problems are blamed on immigrants rather than successive governments failures..

The world is changing and population is shifting. Where would you like potential immigrants to the UK to go instead?

Now look at population density for England. The Scottish highlands distort the figures.

I see this a lot with older people in my line of work ( benefits). They've been in living in Spain for years then start getting health problems so come home. Invariably house prices have risen hugely in the years they've been away and they can't buy so looking for housing, housing benefits etc. I guess they've often paid taxes here for many years though so not like they haven't contributed.
The situation ( that I also see a lot) that makes me most annoyed though is elderly unwell men in their sixties and seventies bringing over young wives ( often in their 20's) form India and Pakistan to be their carers. These young women can't work, and whilst they can't get benefits until they get indefinite leave to remain, the husband can still start claiming benefits for the kids. They always seem able to father a couple of kids with this new wife whilst being disabled enough to need a carer. The women are stuck with not much english and unable to work. If the husband dies they have very limited language and job opportunities.

As suspected, absolute horseshit

My bigger concern is that with the amount of men coming here, men will seriously outnumber women for an entire generation and what impact will that have?

AI will change things. It’s a bit of a Ponzi scheme otherwise, how do you get out of the we need to increase as they age issue? It’s very difficult but AI removing jobs might be the new issue.

People on here are trying to debate rationally. If you can’t do that, and don’t like the post, just scroll on by. You do know it’s not compulsory to comment on posts if you have nothing to contribute?

Free speech is allowed. But if you say bullshit then expect to be called bullshit on it.

Fwiw I disagree because that is a fake number probably designed to get people frothing and that is why I'm reporting unless I get a source. Nothing to do with 'free speech'

I agree partly. The previous 14 years of Tory government didn't help with services. However, bringing more people in wont help either until housing, services, health etc can cope.

They cannot back up their wilful lies, that is why. Honestly there are some really hateful people out there.

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Source for the 11 million immigrants?

Absolutely - it’s the government’s role to ensure that the necessary infrastructure is in place. They haven’t.

(IMO they spent too much in wars (Blair) and internal nonsense (Brexit))

Inward migration has accounted for 98% of the population increase since 2000.
Agree that the demographic for inward migration needs to be factored in to policy and planning. We need young working people and children and definitely don’t need more pensioners to support.
Anyway. When you consider that there really isn’t infrastructure planning to absorb the population increase then virtually everyone can agree it’s a problem.
Housing! My town is building 5500 new homes. Mostly small flats. It’s a massive project and changing the town. Also represents a tiny tiny fraction of the population increase. We can’t keep up. We need a break to absorb all these people. It’s virtually impossible to remove them once they’re here so pause immigration as much as possible. Invest in those already here and building what we need for them.
Wont happen. It will carry on increasing until the UK and similar countries offer nothing more than where people are migrating from. Which is bad for our countries.