11 million immigrants since 2000. When I

Totally agree with you
Reform seem to be the only political party prepared to tackle it , probably why they are so popular.
It's never been about race for me either

Dentistry isn't an immigration issue (in fact I think without immigration we would have far fewer dentists). It was at some point in the 80s/90s that changes to dental contracts meant that all dentists in my area went private only and it's only got worse since. NHS funding of dentists is insufficient to attract and retain NHS dentists.

GP issues are similarly much more complicated than population size.

From a census 10 years ago.

Utilities companies and food companies think its between 77 million and 80 million.

You don’t need to lower the birth rate, it’s happening anyway.

I'm surprised the post is still up to be fair or at least been made to edit the title.

But actually it should probably really be deleted

That’s great. There’s still an issue with a need for an ever increasing base to support the larger aging one.

Looking at the overall system it’s not viable. In any case AI will interrupt the model.

this is actually a good point - the trend for falling birth rates is happening globally. It is most notable in western societies but statisticians have noted that it occurring everywhere but we don't notice it as much because certain countries and demographics are behind the curve. Also, although immigrants tend to have higher birth rates than 'non-immigrants', it generally falls over time to fall in line with that of the native population.

What we actually need to be doing is readjusting our economy and society so that we are no longer reliant on immigrant workforces.

I think a country is over populated when it can't grow its own food. Given we no longer have a empire to feed us or a navy to help get food in. If there was another world war we are looking at the same slow starvation as Gaza.

1 child policy! There you go I fixed the problem for you. 😂😂😂Oh ..but only for the immigrants.

Why isn't it relevant?

OP won’t reply properly to posts that don’t fit their narrative - including ones where they have been incorrect. I kindly took the time to explain that more births than deaths would lead to a population increase, but I guess that didn’t fit with OP’s narrative either.

This link suggests it's a bit more nuanced than 'it's all due to 11 million immigrants': https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-impact-of-migration-on-uk-population-growth/

But isn't it always.

No, I did not say that.

If someone was convincing people that drinking a litre of bleach before breakfast was a great idea we should be trying to persuade people that it is a lie and the bleach will kill them. And we would succeed because there would be news reports of people dying after drinking bleach, and people would know of people at work or in their street who had done it and died.

Convincing someone that immigration is not a problem when they see, every single day with their own eyes, that their community has changed in ways they do not like, is simply not going to work even if the stats are on your side.

And, given we have mass immigration the stats are not on your side.

And it is not even relevant what net immigration is - people would rather a falling population that one that is only staying level due to mass immigration, let alone one that is rising.

Why, doesn't fit your narrative?

Better?! Oh you are funny.

DP isn’t the type of immigrant people like OP seem to find an issue with.

I don't think it's racist. I think it's possibly factual. I would say it about another country if they relied on immigrants for the running of their public services. You don't agree that the vast majority of public services in this country are staffed by immigrants? Perhaps because I live in London it is more obvious.

DP is an immigrant, highest tax payer, top 1% earner been here 20 odd years. As af amount we contribute more in tax than we take ‘out’ of the system.
funnily enough most people don’t seem to be bothered that a white, western immigrant is here…

OP doesn’t understand birth and death rates unfortunately. Only that the population has increased by 11 million and for reasons they can’t explain this must be immigration. I’ve provided the number of births and number of deaths between 2000-2021 but I think maybe it was just too many big numbers for OP to understand. Or it’s easy to just say immigrants bad but not be able to explain why.