11 million immigrants since 2000. When I

People aren’t living longer

Haven't RTFT but I do hope someone else has already pointed out to OP that in the same period from 2000, around 5.2 million people emigrated from the UK to live abroad. Let's hope the countries they moved to are far more welcoming of immigrants than we currently are.

What do you want to do about your concerns?

You can't change past numbers, immigration is falling and predicted to fall further.

What else do you want to happen?

@BallerinaRadio please can explain where numbers are coming from given that everything I have posted is for the National Office of Statistics?

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/long-term-international-migration-flows-to-and-from-the-uk/

Obviously immigration is far too high for our infrastruccture and our services at the moment, it marginally increases our GDP because more people do more stuff, but it is a bit like a never ending ponzi scheme that is tetering on the brink of bankruptcy.

https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1972000617527935156

Firstly, the English ethnicity was one of the most stable in the world, genetically speaking. Basically we had virtually zero immigration for the last 1000 years up to the 1960s.

Secondly, this is not an argument for unfettered immigration. I can't just walk into the US on the basis that they're all immigrants anyway.

I’ve just asked ChatGPT to give me a total figure for net migration to the UK since 2000, and it’s given me a figure of 7.3 million. Not as high as the figure in the OP’s OP, but still too high in my opinion, and the levels in the last couple of years have been absolutely ridiculous and are just not sustainable, no matter how you try to spin it.

Take the last 3 years for example. And these are net figures. 487,000 in 2022, 906,000 in 2023 and 431,000 in 2024.

I don’t understand why certain posters are so keen to shut down any debate. Plenty of people are concerned about this issue, and for perfectly valid reasons.

Its lucidicous lets compare ballerina figures with ONS.

People coming to the uk ONS 16m, Ballerina - can't believe its 11m
People leaving the uk - ONS 8m, Ballerina 44m

Ballerina thinks that migration has contributed a reduction in population of at 33m, that 50% of the population of the UK

I just don't know what to say to this 🤯

Do you think population can keep going up as long as we build stuff?

about 15yrs ago there was at that time a statistic of this country only producing 25% of our food needs. (wish i could remember where it came from but it’s poss in v elderly attic stored pc!?)
but your point on us not being able to support the population has been known about for at least that long!
Still, huge areas of previously productive farmland (yep fields over the last 2yrs I can see from my own kitchen ☹️ & despite locals massively objecting) is being turned into housing, yeh & no schools infrastructure etc. either 🙄.
Perhaps all politicians should farmers?

The population increased by 750,000 last year alone according to the ONS, 98% of this was down to immigration, that’s a city the size of Leeds. In the same time only 125,000 new homes were built. How many new hospitals, GPs etc are needed to accommodate this? We don’t have the money to invest in infrastructure, everything we do seems to take way longer and costs much more than budgeted. Building costs are through the roof. It’s no wonder that in my area north west where homes are relatively cheap to buy compared to the rest of the country, house prices are up 30% since 2020 and you can only rent a room in a HMO for the price it was to rent an entire home then. To rent a home on my street costs £1000 more per month than my mortgage.

PP are correct about UK trained doctors - I became aware of it from a thread on here started by a poster whose DS was unable to find a post in the summer. There has been massive political pressure on Wes Streeting to address this, as relatively inexperienced UK trained doctors are competing for jobs with very experienced international doctors who are willing to take a demotion in seniority to secure a job here.

See www.bma.org.uk/news-and-opinion/major-survey-shows-scale-of-doctor-unemployment-crisis

I mean yeah with the right people in charge obvs. As a country we just lack a bit of ambition. Would rather moan about foreigners than try and make actual change

If you honestly think this post is detrimental due to some figures quoted which you don’t agree with, then report to MN. I doubt they’ll delete the post, because if they did that based on accuracy, then at least 50% of posts currently on MN would be deleted. You’ve challenged the figures, as have others, as is your right, so people have a view of both sets.

I'll save you the trouble 8m people have left. I really you need to learn how to look at the ONS website. None of this is a secret.

It is important in any culture that incomers are integrated into the existing culture. In the year to June 2023 the net migration figures of people coming to the UK was just under 1 million, in the year to June 24 it was around 3/4 of a million that is an increase in population the size of Manchester in the space of 2 years. Many will go on to have children and increase the population further.

This number of people cannot be dealt with. If you don’t think this is an issue you’re either so ideologically driven you ignore even the most basic common sense or you’re just down right ignorant

British people love free money.

Entitlement to free elective NHS care is being 'ordinarily resident' in the country. How long it takes to establish this is not clear - some say it's approx 6 months. If a Briton leaves the country to live abroad they cannot just return after years and get free non-emergency care based on nationality and previous paying in. Entitlement to free NHS care has never been attached to paying tax and NI - that was the whole point of setting up the NHS.

According the ONS

10.3m increase in population from 2000-2025
16m people moved to the uk in that period.
8m left the uk in that period.
This leave 2.3m to a result of increased life expectancy offsetting birth rates .

The cap made negligible difference to the number of children born. Why do you think the reverse will cause a significant change?

Exactly. If the figures aren’t true, then people will see that by doing their own research. It’s really nothing to get upset about.

OP: You can expect the UK population to rise even more when the two-child benefit cap for UK citizens is removed.

Immigration accounted for a significant majority, and increasingly a near-total, of the UK's population increase since 2000; in 2020-21, net migration directly or indirectly contributed over four-fifths of the eight million population growth. By mid-2024, international migration was responsible for almost 100% of the UK's population growth because natural increase (births minus deaths) became negative.

That’s the overview. If people want to go back to pre 2020 and work it out, they can.