AIBU to tell team members to forfeit their breaks

I think it's worse I think they think they're being super clever

I take it this post is your idea of a joke. What a waste of everyone's time.

Why are you talking in riddles?

God these 'clever' posts are getting tedious now.

I think I prefer the AI/ content farming posts

This poster has explained that they are severely dyslexic and also not a teacher.

Or get a job as a teacher and see how easy it is, it is amazing the experts that come out of the woodwork of easy other peoples jobs are, and no I am not nor have ever been a teacher

I used to work as an exam invigilator. You wouldn't believe the number of students - 16 year olds! - who turn up to their exams without a pen 🙄

If you don’t like the way the school is disciplining your children, choose another school

I've managed people for a long time. My only bit of advice to is you is pick your battles! Don't waste time and energy on the small stuff.

I had a child say he didn’t have a pen so couldn’t do the work. When I said that would have to be noted as an organisation mark he remembered he had a whole pencil case and got it out.

Children aren’t adults, they need different rules. If an adult turned up claiming to be unprepared at a meeting as a ruse to get out of the work it wouldn’t go down well.

There is a philosophy to sweat the small stuff and the bigger incidences reduce accordingly. Along the lines of look after the pennies and the pounds will look after themselves.

Bullying in any half-decent school is also stamped down on.

And there are many workplaces where bullying is rife and people who are subjected to it are routinely ignored, ridiculed, victim-blamed and told it's all in their heads.

I can't work out if OP has a smidgen of being an educator experience, as in studied it, but never practically and went straight into something like school inspection which is where the unrealistic 'well what I'd do is...'
Or is that parent who's educationally inquisitive child (saw that gem on a thread about a rude back chatting angel) is somehow always clashing with mean teachers.

‘Peaces’ and ‘distroy’ - I thought a teacher would be able to spell simple words like these - worrying.

Tedious. Let's turn it around shall we?

Team member 1 swears loudly at the manager during meetings. Team member 2 hits a colleague.
Team member 3 never does a stroke of work and just gazes out the window.

They'd never last a second in an actual job but hey, they're not in a job, they're kids and at school.

The world of work and the world of education are two different things. There's no point comparing the two much beyond thinking what skills kids need for when these older. Their behavior will be very different to an adults because they're not adults!

"I don't understand why it's automatically dismissed as somehow stupid, boring or irrelevant to draw attention to two similar or equivalent situations"

Because they are not equivalent. One is dealing with adults who have applied for that role and the other is children most of whom are only there because their parents send them there and given the choice would prefer to stay home.

Some of these children will behave for months or sometimes years in a way that would get them instantly dismissed as a working adult.

There are a great many kids or even a majority of kids who you could allow to use toilet as and when needed with no issue or genuinely lose pens instead of flinging them at someone the other side of the room but there are there are too many who can't and the stricter rules this requires must largely be applied to everyone.

If you could disagree with publicised policies you can always home school.

Some people then say well I have no choice as I need to work, but by the same token will not accept that schools have no choice but to enforce these strict regimes to function.

I was thinking wouldn't it be simpler to have a blot picture of a baboons backside to represent the awaking dawn?

Op why cant you say what you want why the need for game playing?

My children come out with stuff like this.

They say things like "homework is unfair why do I have to do it?"

"Why can't I wear jewellery or makeup when the teachers do?"

"Why do I have to study things I hate when I won't need them as an adult?"

"Why can't I sit next to my friends all the time?"

"Why do I have to use this particular door to leave the building and not the one I fancy using?"

Their whole whingy tone is not far off yours OP.

That’s it in a nutshell

When do you find time to chat individually to multiple children after each lesson?

I’m assuming you’re not a teacher or you’d realise with back to back lessons, no support staff, a huge workload and multiple children this is impossible.

Also, we don’t get to pick the rules and we certainly don’t get to pick the ones we agree with or don’t agree with.

Exactly. But to write your excellent post you need to have some critical thinking skills which are lacking in the opening post.

Oh right so it's another of these daft analogy threads 🙄

I think of parents sent their kids to school ready to learn, with the basic equipment they need, dressed decently and actually disciplined their kids for messing about half the arbitrary rules wouldn’t be needed.

My DS started high school this year, some of the behaviours he describes are an utter nonsense - kids not having a pen/pencil every single day, not forgotten because they never have one. Kids arriving 20 minutes late for class, being destructive, back chatting teachers, picking fights in the class. If that was your day all day every day, and you know parents will make excuses for their offspring not just doing what they need to, you’d be implementing discipline for little things.

Forgetting a pen or taking off a jacket when it gets hot? Or do you mean something else?

They're only not comparable in the workplace because nobody would think to make an issue of them in the workplace - much less sèek to punish!

It's a stupid analogy. No employer is forced to employ a worker who can't be arsed, but all children have a right to an education, even the ones whose home life has set them up with an anti-education attitude. Employers can expect an attitude of diligence and appropriate conduct and don't have to employ anyone who.doesn't show these qualities. Schools have to have systems which instill these qualities, prevent the lack of them from disrupting the education of others, and show children that there are unpleasant consequences when you don't.

It is unreasonable for these consequences to include the removal of break times. Breaks are a very necessary need, not a luxury. However, the ridiculous underfunding of schools is to blame here so blame the Tories ultimately. Any punishment either has to be the enforcing of something unpleasant or the removal of something that is pleasant, neither of which should be to the extent that overall human rights are overuled or fundamental needs unmet. All the old-fashioned school punishments are rightly gone because they were wrong - physical pain and public humiliation as punishment were never a good idea. After school detention becomes an unworkable punishment of the parent when a reliable school end time is critical to complicated commuting arrangements. The appropriate way to have a discipline system that works is to have good and enjoyable but unnecessary activities built into the school week - eg by having the school day officially extended to 4pm and the last hour being fun clubs that go over and above the curriculum - you've then got a benefit that can be removed for bad behaviour that isn't something that is vital and necessary. Schools do not have the capacity to create meaningful disciplinary systems because they do not have the funding to give children enjoyable and engaging but unnecessary benefits that they value. If they did, the removal of those benefits for poor behaviour can work as a part of a rational disciplinary process.

Are you for real? You don't "apprehend" people for taking their jackets off.