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AIBU to tell team members to forfeit their breaks

217 replies

Suedesofblue · 03/10/2025 22:12

Team member 1: came unprepared to meeting and needed to use one of my pens. Unprofessional. She is being groomed for a role in another office where manager would definitely make her forfeit her breaks for that, so it’s important she learns now.

Team member 2: Left annotated document at home which means I have to fit it in tomorrow instead of today. It is only five minutes of work, but again that’s not the point. They should have remembered.

Team member 3: Briefing team and a team member takes his suit jacket off in the middle of it, which meant I had no choice but to disrupt the meeting for everyone in order to apprehend him.

OP posts:
Lollipop81 · 04/10/2025 21:14

🤣🤣🤣

MrsVinceVega · 04/10/2025 21:14

For those who haven't twigged the OP is making a point about how children are treated in schools by using a set of false equivalences.

I suspect that the OP has a child who has been punished unfairly in their view and is absolutely furious.

OP it really isn't the same, you do see that, don't you?

For example, does your manager have to find you clean clothes and help you get changed when you wet yourself?

Do they have to stop you and a colleague fighting over who gets to use a favourite piece of equipment next?

Does your manager have to check that you and your colleagues haven't put small pieces of equipment into your pockets to take home?

Do you or any of your colleagues cry and ask your manager if it's nearly hometime on a regular basis?

If you have a problem with the school be a grown up and communicate with them about it.

LandOfFruitAndNut · 04/10/2025 21:10

Just talk about the stuff you want to talk about. Don’t do all this shit instead.
Also if you have a beef about behaviour then check out the schools behaviour policy. If you don’t agree with it then move your child. Simple innit.

Lovehascomeandgone · 04/10/2025 21:01

This is a joke right? A joke post? I hope so because you need scaling if you are a manager. Disgusting behaviour from you. Get a grip!

cardibach · 04/10/2025 20:59

Lalalalalalalalalalaoohoohwee · 04/10/2025 20:34

Voted 'you are not being unreasonable' because this is very clearly sattire.

It’s not satire. It’s a rubbish false equivalence.

Zoec1975 · 04/10/2025 20:47

You had to disrupt the meeting to apprehend the guy,who took his jacket off,maybe because he was too hot.for goodness sake give and take a little.or has it all gone to your head being in charge.

Lalalalalalalalalalaoohoohwee · 04/10/2025 20:34

Voted 'you are not being unreasonable' because this is very clearly sattire.

Janicchoplin · 04/10/2025 20:18

Is this some kind of a joke? Because if you treat people this way. No wonder staff have anxiety. You. Are. A. Bully. Of the worst kind. Because this is the adult world and not School where these things albeit bad tend to happen.
You need therapy.

Snakebite61 · 04/10/2025 19:51

Suedesofblue · 03/10/2025 22:12

Team member 1: came unprepared to meeting and needed to use one of my pens. Unprofessional. She is being groomed for a role in another office where manager would definitely make her forfeit her breaks for that, so it’s important she learns now.

Team member 2: Left annotated document at home which means I have to fit it in tomorrow instead of today. It is only five minutes of work, but again that’s not the point. They should have remembered.

Team member 3: Briefing team and a team member takes his suit jacket off in the middle of it, which meant I had no choice but to disrupt the meeting for everyone in order to apprehend him.

What the hell are you on about?

Coconutter24 · 04/10/2025 19:25

Are you a teacher or an unhappy parent? Why can’t people just say or ask what they mean, why make it complicated

LadyPiglet · 04/10/2025 19:14

I think the point that OP is trying to make is that low-level misbehaviour is punished excessively in schools in ways which would be unacceptable in the workplace. But I think this is wrong:

I'm a barrister. I'm not allowed to take my blazer off in court without permission (not offered unless it is sweltering). I can think of any number of other jobs where uniform is mandatory. As it happens, I don't see why school uniforms require them - but they do in some places, just as some professions do.

Similarly, if I submit a document to the court past deadline, the consequences for me/my client can be more severe than 5 minutes off break. My mate's a hospital doctor: if she doesn't submit her scanning /blood requests on time, consequences can be fatal.

As for pens - plenty of professions where if you don't bring your equipment/tools, that's a you problem. Would you pay the window cleaner who forgot his ladder?

Emskies · 04/10/2025 18:48

I basically never comment on Mumsnet but I feel I have to here. The way you are treating people is not okay and you really need to take some management training if you want to continue to manage people. You should also familiarise yourself with employment laws to ensure you aren’t putting your company in breach with this treatment

LottieMary · 04/10/2025 18:14

louderthan · 03/10/2025 23:04

Oh I seeeee. Sorry I don’t have kids, so I didn’t get this straight away. OP YANBU. I have never really understood why we expect far higher standards of behaviour from teenagers than from our adult colleagues and peers.

You don’t expect adults to meet deadlines and bring their equipment?

Tortycatlover · 04/10/2025 18:14

Is this for real? Or are you insane? I wouldn’t work for you.

OSTMusTisNT · 04/10/2025 18:00

Wonders what a work break is......

cardibach · 04/10/2025 17:40

SevenYellowHammers · 04/10/2025 16:45

But not, apparently, illegal to do same to school kids. Which is point she is making. As a teacher of 25 years I am with Op.

I’m a teacher of 35 years (now retired). I tended not to keep kids in at break because it had the knock on of depriving me of my break (and opportunity for warm drink and a wee) but you don’t think it’s unreasonable with seniors to keep them back to discuss their behaviour.

FrippEnos · 04/10/2025 17:26

I always appreciate the "lack of pen" points from posters.

I stopped giving out pens, I either never got them back or what I did get back was unusable.

As for those that posted "just go to the stationary cupboard". Most places that I have worked at don't have one that isn't guarded by someone and everything needed to be signed out, or in one case they put security cameras in because of the high amount of theft.

SevenYellowHammers · 04/10/2025 16:56

Catsknowbest · 04/10/2025 16:50

So where does OP make that clear?!

Satire

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 04/10/2025 16:50

SevenYellowHammers · 04/10/2025 16:45

But not, apparently, illegal to do same to school kids. Which is point she is making. As a teacher of 25 years I am with Op.

@Suedesofblue but where does she state that it is schoolkids she is talking about? why call them a team??

Catsknowbest · 04/10/2025 16:50

SevenYellowHammers · 04/10/2025 16:45

But not, apparently, illegal to do same to school kids. Which is point she is making. As a teacher of 25 years I am with Op.

So where does OP make that clear?!

SevenYellowHammers · 04/10/2025 16:45

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 04/10/2025 12:24

@Suedesofblue someone's hitler hat is becoming too tight for them!!!! illegal to make employees work without breaks so stop havering a lot of rubbish!!

But not, apparently, illegal to do same to school kids. Which is point she is making. As a teacher of 25 years I am with Op.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 04/10/2025 12:27

@Suedesofblue this whole thread is a lot of drivel! who says it is a lot of school pupils???

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 04/10/2025 12:24

@Suedesofblue someone's hitler hat is becoming too tight for them!!!! illegal to make employees work without breaks so stop havering a lot of rubbish!!

cardibach · 04/10/2025 12:15

RhaenysRocks · 04/10/2025 09:28

But schools are meant to prepare them for every single aspect of life now supposedly, from academic to finance management to personal hygiene, relationships, law, politics..... I'm a teacher. Id love to only walk into my classroom, teach the academics and leave but at least half my job now is other stuff.

I’m a retired teacher. I feel schools need to be allowed to concentrate on the academics with less other stuff and less pointless paperwork. I retired early because of that and workplace bullying - those things together caused burnout.

TypeyMcTypeface · 04/10/2025 11:25

team member 2 now swinging on his chair asks "why do we have to have a meeting about this, it's a load of bollocks anyway, my Mum says I don't have to do it if I don't want to".

Can I steal this line the next time I'm invited to a completely pointless meeting? 😂