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AIBU for pressuring my son to apply to unis close to home?

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SassyBear2 · 03/10/2025 21:55

My son is very academically capable and wants to study Electrical Engineering. From what he’s researched, Cambridge is better for engineering than Oxford because it’s more hands-on and practical, and the acceptance rate is slightly higher.

Despite this, we’ve been encouraging him to apply to Oxford. We live about an hour away by car, and if he went there he could commute from home, which would reduce how much we need to fund his uni life.

He says he wants to move out for uni because he wants to "experience proper student life" and he believes uni accommodation is an important aspect of that.

We’re also suggesting he look at London unis instead of other options like Warwick, because they’re only about an hour away if there’s no traffic.

AIBU for pressuring him a bit to apply to local unis rather than slightly better ones further away? Is an hour commute really far uni? Also do most students move out for uni or do they stay at home?

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Holidaytimeyay · 04/10/2025 16:41

I think that you have to let him go where he wants to go and where he gets into. I do sympathise though, one of my friends had to ask one of their children to stay at home as having had one child just finish uni and then 2 DC’s wanting to go at the same time, it became unviable financially.

The bar for reduced funding is extremely low, I am a single parent, work in a min wage job and have other dependents and my DC will likely not get the full maintenance loan next year as I also receive a small amount of taxable benefit as well. The amount you get for maintenance loan starts reducing with a household income of £25K!! That threshold has been frozen in cash terms since 2009!!
I am not sure how I am supposed to support my other dependents and a child in uni as a single parent on minimum wage and an income of less than £30K. DC’s course is quite intense and they have disabilities so it will make working difficult. However, they have chosen to go into halls but at a uni that is less than an hour away from home. I have encouraged it as I can see how much it will help with independence as well as the uni experience.

BeachLife2 · 04/10/2025 16:41

Enigma54 · 04/10/2025 16:37

You don’t know what the OP’s outgoings are. She may have a huge mortgage/ debts, we don’t know. What seems like a larger than average income on paper, maybe not be, in reality.

Her mortgage costs are still her responsibility, though. A household income of £72,000 places someone in the top 10% in the country and the OP earns well above that.

I don’t know her personal finances but something has gone badly wrong if she is apparently unable to support her DC at uni on such a high income when many others on far less manage it.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/10/2025 16:39

Enigma54 · 04/10/2025 16:37

You don’t know what the OP’s outgoings are. She may have a huge mortgage/ debts, we don’t know. What seems like a larger than average income on paper, maybe not be, in reality.

She said they aren't struggling financially.

Enigma54 · 04/10/2025 16:37

BeachLife2 · 04/10/2025 16:32

It doesn’t really matter whether it will stretch or not. Her household earns a very good income (much higher than average) and it is her responsibility to support her DS’s education.

You don’t know what the OP’s outgoings are. She may have a huge mortgage/ debts, we don’t know. What seems like a larger than average income on paper, maybe not be, in reality.

Enigma54 · 04/10/2025 16:35

paranoidnamechanger · 04/10/2025 16:18

Sure. I suggested yesterday OP's son could take a year out to work. But the main point is that OP should financially support her son, in light of the fact he'll get minimal maintenance loan.

Maybe for whatever reason, OP just can’t fund her DS’s studies. We don’t know what the family’s outgoings are.

BeachLife2 · 04/10/2025 16:32

Enigma54 · 04/10/2025 15:47

I think you make a valid point here. We are living in a climate where money doesn’t go far at all. We don’t know what the OP’s outgoings are. So even a seemingly large combined salary, may not stretch to fund her DS’s studies.

It doesn’t really matter whether it will stretch or not. Her household earns a very good income (much higher than average) and it is her responsibility to support her DS’s education.

MaturingCheeseball · 04/10/2025 16:28

Additionally snort at commuting to Oxford by car. Yes, commute all you like, but you’d be in the park and ride unless you were Elon Musk (or indeed Emma Watson) and could afford the city centre car parking charges. I don’t think you can rock up in your Corsa and swing in through some ancient gates and park on a nice grassy quad.

cloudtreecarpet · 04/10/2025 16:26

TwoBagsOfCompost · 04/10/2025 16:18

Then perhaps the cheapest private rent sharing with housemates?

Is that even cheap now? Paying all year round, even for the holidays, paying expensive energy bills?

There are threads constantly on here complaining about bills rising, the cost of food rising etc - students aren't immune to this. And subsequently their parents who are helping fund them.

Even just a few years ago it was easier to be a student. It's changed a lot in recent years which is why I think young people need to really think about whether it's the right option for them.
We need better alternatives - more decent apprenticeships with jobs at the end of them.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/10/2025 16:26

Enigma54 · 04/10/2025 14:23

Not allowed? Why?

Because the workload is very intense and crammed into 8 week terms (which is shorter than at other universities) and so the universities believe that students who are working part time jobs won't keep up with their academic work.

ysette9 · 04/10/2025 16:22

I experienced both living near campus and commuting. It is a very different experience. I had no social life when I commuted. I missed most of the study groups and all of the parties. I also couldn’t participate in extras such as my astronomy teacher’s « star parties » gazing at the heavens through the telescope at night.

I commuted by train, so at least I could read. Being an engineering student though, I couldn’t do homework on the train. Commuting by car would be even worse as it would be 100% lost time. Two hours a day is a LOT of time that could be spent studying.

Friendlygingercat · 04/10/2025 16:22

Your son needs to begin to drop the rope and move on.

When I went to uni as a mature student my mother could not understand why I wanted to leave my home city. Although we had a perfectly good university in the city I wanted to get away from my family and go lower contact with them. Leaving for uni was just an excuse to do it without acrimony. It would not have been the same to commute even though I had my own place and did not live with my parents, Leaving the city you were born in is part of the process of becoming a fully functioning adult. She was devastated when I decided to stay on for a masters and a doctorate. I found work at the uni where I graduated and so I never returned to the city of my birth save as a visitor. My family all still live there. I dont feel that they have moved on.

RampantIvy · 04/10/2025 16:20

TwoBagsOfCompost · 04/10/2025 16:18

Then perhaps the cheapest private rent sharing with housemates?

When you are a fresher it is harder to find housemates if you don't know anyone.

TwoBagsOfCompost · 04/10/2025 16:18

cloudtreecarpet · 04/10/2025 16:05

You don't always get given the cheapest accommodation even if you request it.

My nephew applied for the cheapest but ended up in the most expensive Hall which he hadn't even put down on his accommodation application.

Then perhaps the cheapest private rent sharing with housemates?

paranoidnamechanger · 04/10/2025 16:18

Enigma54 · 04/10/2025 16:03

Then the students are either receiving a good amount of SF, or they are working a job alongside their studies, or they have taken time out, to work
and then study.

Sure. I suggested yesterday OP's son could take a year out to work. But the main point is that OP should financially support her son, in light of the fact he'll get minimal maintenance loan.

MaturingCheeseball · 04/10/2025 16:12

Oxbridge is different from other universities. You live in. You just do.

Southampton is excellent for EE.

Making someone who doesn’t want to, live at home is abusive. Dh is living proof. The pil would not let him go to Oxford or Kings (despite having offers). They insisted he live at home and take a one-hour bus ride to nearest university every day. They were quite comfortably off, they just thought living in halls was a waste of money and you certainly didn’t need to have a social life or any fun. In those days there was no social media for dh to find out how wronged he was!

BIossomtoes · 04/10/2025 16:09

I can’t imagine having a child with the ability to be offered a place on the best degree course in the country for their subject and doing anything except giving them 100% support. I’d live on baked beans for three years to do that.

RedRedCapris · 04/10/2025 16:09

He will be doing the studying for 3 years or more

It is his choice, his life

Has he visited any unis in person ???

I travelled by train & visited lots before I applied

I also joined lots of clubs & made life long friends

cloudtreecarpet · 04/10/2025 16:05

TwoBagsOfCompost · 04/10/2025 14:40

If the reason is financial, he can live in the cheapest accommodation available and live off of baked beans. I can sympathise if the reason is financial, but I'd certainly hope you'd only be "suggesting" instead of "pressuring".

If the reason is not financial, you are being absolutely and utterly ridiculous pressuring him.

Overall, YABU.

You don't always get given the cheapest accommodation even if you request it.

My nephew applied for the cheapest but ended up in the most expensive Hall which he hadn't even put down on his accommodation application.

Enigma54 · 04/10/2025 16:03

paranoidnamechanger · 04/10/2025 15:46

Here could be anywhere, but the national picture speaks for itself - as you say, 70% live away from home. That is huge. I really doubt that most of those students, or even a third of them, will be from wealthy backgrounds.

Then the students are either receiving a good amount of SF, or they are working a job alongside their studies, or they have taken time out, to work
and then study.

RedRedCapris · 04/10/2025 16:02

Your DS should choose the best fit for him & good there

Please do NOT make him go to a uni of your choosing

Has he looked round any unis himself in person ?

cloudtreecarpet · 04/10/2025 16:01

RampantIvy · 04/10/2025 15:50

I'm not convinced it is. The cheapest university owned accommodation where DD is at university is £173 a week. She is currently in a private flat rental costing £550 a month. With bills the cost is pretty much the same.

Are you talking about Oxbridge colleges or general university halls?

Oxbridge is considerably cheaper and offers a lot of financial support to lower income (not even that low!) families.

They are trying to accommodate students from poorer backgrounds in a way other Universities aren't.
I guess because they are both wealthy and perennially popular so they can afford to.

IdaGlossop · 04/10/2025 16:01

Enigma54 · 04/10/2025 14:23

Not allowed? Why?

Because terms are short (eight weeks) and demanding, and the universities want students to concentrate on their studies.

Willyoujustbequiet · 04/10/2025 16:00

paranoidnamechanger · 04/10/2025 15:46

Here could be anywhere, but the national picture speaks for itself - as you say, 70% live away from home. That is huge. I really doubt that most of those students, or even a third of them, will be from wealthy backgrounds.

I simply gave an outline of our experience in our area and its not the norm to live away now. I did back in the day but our kids aren't and that is principally down to economics.

I guess it depends on what your perspective of wealth is. Its well recognised that less than 20% of students come from lower socio economic classes. So it would appear that most dont even have the opportunity to go in the first place let alone to live away.

Dearover · 04/10/2025 15:59

We're talking about Oxbridge colleges.

RampantIvy · 04/10/2025 15:50

Thisismetooaswell · 04/10/2025 14:17

No - quite the opposite. Accommodation in college is much cheaper than private rentals, most colleges you only pay for term time, and you stay there for the whole length of your course. It can be very cheap indeed. Plus the universities have a lot of bursaries, then each college also has their own bursary available

I'm not convinced it is. The cheapest university owned accommodation where DD is at university is £173 a week. She is currently in a private flat rental costing £550 a month. With bills the cost is pretty much the same.

Are you talking about Oxbridge colleges or general university halls?