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To miss DS’s wedding? *trigger warning*, concerns rape

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GiftBaggage · 03/10/2025 21:46

DS recently shared the news that he’s getting married. I’m a little surprised since he’s not been with his GF very long (I’ve only met her once) and seemed to be in ‘bachelor’ mode a few short months ago but it’s his life and decision obviously. He’s also planning for all the parents to meet each other at a meal or something along those lines very soon.

The problem is, I don’t know if I can actually be in the same room as his father. I was just 14 when I got pregnant and he was older. He abused me in every way possible, including rape. Then, when I broke up with him, he stalked me intermittently for a few years and was later found guilty of harassment at court. He burgled my house after I bumped into him on public transport and he somehow stole my keys out of my bag (to this day I’ve no idea how). There’s other stuff too but you get the picture.

He completely abandoned our son at 1yo and has never paid a penny in child maintenance. I’ve raised him almost totally alone. DS got back in touch with him a few years ago and seems completely overawed by him. I was really hurt that he told his dad the news before me (not sure why DS wanted me to know that) and feel he’s had a bit of personality transplant since spending time with him.

I haven’t let DS know how I’m feeling and I would never ask him to ‘choose’ between us but I just don’t know how I can physically be in the same room as his dad.

Has anyone been in the same situation? How did you deal with it? Advice gratefully received as I’m feeling so upset about it all. I’ve dreaded this day for so long and now it’s actually happening, I don’t know how to handle it 😞

OP posts:
Nestingbirds · 04/10/2025 16:03

LoftyRobin · 04/10/2025 15:53

I think understanding that it is up to the.victim is resolved trauma. Insisting that the victim blow up their whole family and that is the only right thing to do frankly shows a lack of experience with the subject in hand. But don't worry, people with no fucking clue often insist on making themselves heard.

I know you choose not to tell your family the truth, that was a decision that was right for you. Every situation is different.

Op stands to actually lose her son to this monster, and unless she does tell him the truth her own grandchildren could be abused and harmed too. Her son may not respond with love or empathy, or he might be horrified and wish to stay away from his rapist father - no one can predict what will happen. Op has very little to lose, as she is likely going to lose her son unless she speaks up now. The rapist will go to the wedding with the son he didn’t raise, and he will take over. So I’m not sure op stands to gain anything by keeping quiet.

Rosscameasdoody · 04/10/2025 16:01

LoftyRobin · 04/10/2025 15:53

I think understanding that it is up to the.victim is resolved trauma. Insisting that the victim blow up their whole family and that is the only right thing to do frankly shows a lack of experience with the subject in hand. But don't worry, people with no fucking clue often insist on making themselves heard.

Trust me I have more than a ‘fucking clue’ as to what’s needed here from lived experience which I don’t care to discuss with randoms on the internet. This is a public forum - so people are entitled to make themselves heard. Fortunately yours is not the only opinion that matters here. For someone who purports to have been a victim of a paedophile, I find your attitude towards the protection of others potentially at risk of the same thing, and the repeated attempts to equate OP’s situation with your own, very very odd.

Rosscameasdoody · 04/10/2025 15:59

Hairycherry · 04/10/2025 15:42

OP was presumably with this man before his convictions, hasn’t said he was charged for anything against children (as of yet) so may wrongly presume that means he isn’t allowed to work around children or vulnerable people. If it’s a drip feed and he has been charged for offences RE children then yes that would make more sense.

OP is unequivocal in stating that he has been barred from working with children. And he was convicted of stalking her after she broke up with him. What do you imagine he’s been convicted of if he can’t work with children ? A simple Clares Law application is what’s needed so that OP can clarify how much of a threat he is and warn her DS with evidence, not something he can dismiss as her being bitter.

LoftyRobin · 04/10/2025 15:53

Nestingbirds · 04/10/2025 15:51

You are projecting a lot on this thread, and it’s usually unresolved trauma

I think understanding that it is up to the.victim is resolved trauma. Insisting that the victim blow up their whole family and that is the only right thing to do frankly shows a lack of experience with the subject in hand. But don't worry, people with no fucking clue often insist on making themselves heard.

LoftyRobin · 04/10/2025 15:52

Rosscameasdoody · 04/10/2025 14:41

And if/when the unthinkable happens and her ex either assaults her DiL or abuses their future children ? What then ? Do you think OP will have any kind of a relationship with her DS’s family when they inevitably discover that she had full knowledge of the risk he posed and kept quiet ?

Abuse victims are often goaded this way. It isnt our fault if the offender keeps offending. We have to put ourselves first

Nestingbirds · 04/10/2025 15:51

LoftyRobin · 04/10/2025 15:49

No that isnt the right thing to do in every situation. It is very individualised and the victim's needs come first.

You are projecting a lot on this thread, and it’s usually unresolved trauma

LoftyRobin · 04/10/2025 15:49

Rosscameasdoody · 04/10/2025 14:28

So OP needs to sit him down and tell him the worst of it. This is a rapist we’re talking about, not to mention a child abuser. He’s on the sex offenders’ register and banned from working with children for a reason. DS and his future wife need all the information to hand to make an informed decision on whether to continue to allow him into their lives, and to protect themselves and any future children they may have. If OP keeps quiet and the unthinkable happens what do you think will happen when her DS finds out she knew the truth and kept quiet ?

No that isnt the right thing to do in every situation. It is very individualised and the victim's needs come first.

WetWashingWoes · 04/10/2025 15:44

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 04/10/2025 09:25

I am going to go against the grian and say that not going would be a huge mistake. As awful as it sounds, you are making your DS's wedding about you when it should be about him.

As a survivor of rape, I absolutely understand the gut wrenching paralysis at the thought of having to be in the same space as the person who attacked you. But in the kindest way, you need to show that SOB that his actions do not define you or control you.

Ask DS if you can bring a friend, someone who you know will have you back. Get a beautiful outfit and walk in there with your head held high. Even if you have to fake it til you make it.

Actually, her pushing herself to go, without having had therapy and going in with her eyes wide open, could be re-traumatising and psychologically harmful.

Hairycherry · 04/10/2025 15:42

OP was presumably with this man before his convictions, hasn’t said he was charged for anything against children (as of yet) so may wrongly presume that means he isn’t allowed to work around children or vulnerable people. If it’s a drip feed and he has been charged for offences RE children then yes that would make more sense.

Ivelostmyglasses · 04/10/2025 15:40

LuLuLemonDrizzleCake · 04/10/2025 15:31

Therapy to help think through the decision, consider how to reconcile things with her son?

Like I said, I'm not a therapist so cannot claim to know what one would say. You clearly are a therapist though.

I have been really clear in stating these are two different things and that therapy to support talking to her son & managing his responses and choices makes sense. Be as snippy as you like about it, you have misread me.

Hairycherry · 04/10/2025 15:40

WatchingTheDetective · 04/10/2025 15:38

Burglars aren't banned from working with children.

@HairyCherry, you're an apologist, aren't you? I know it's good to see two sides of a story but you take that to its extreme, don't you? I've noticed you on threads, giving the benefit of the doubt in some really dodgy scenarios.

I know they aren’t, but a criminal record makes it a lot harder to get a job. I work in the legal sector and you’d be surprised how many criminals and families of assume a criminal (ie someone who has stuff like petty theft/ burglary) would be banned from working with kids and vulnerable people.

WatchingTheDetective · 04/10/2025 15:38

Burglars aren't banned from working with children.

@HairyCherry, you're an apologist, aren't you? I know it's good to see two sides of a story but you take that to its extreme, don't you? I've noticed you on threads, giving the benefit of the doubt in some really dodgy scenarios.

Hairycherry · 04/10/2025 15:33

Think

Hairycherry · 04/10/2025 15:33

WatchingTheDetective · 04/10/2025 15:31

I think people are referring to where she says, "I know that he’s barred from working with children though."

This could be OP presuming he’s not allowed due to his other criminal background for burglary. She has not been back to clarify his convictions apart from the ones she said here. A lot of people mistakingly thing having offences (for crimes that aren’t against children) would not be allowed to work with children.

WatchingTheDetective · 04/10/2025 15:31

InterIgnis · 04/10/2025 15:06

Where has OP said that he’s a convicted pedophile?

I think people are referring to where she says, "I know that he’s barred from working with children though."

LuLuLemonDrizzleCake · 04/10/2025 15:31

Ivelostmyglasses · 04/10/2025 15:28

No one needs therapy to go to a wedding that could reactivate stalking by rapist is the point.

Therapy to help think through the decision, consider how to reconcile things with her son?

Like I said, I'm not a therapist so cannot claim to know what one would say. You clearly are a therapist though.

Hankunamatata · 04/10/2025 15:30

I think meeting in laws separately is fine

Id really try to go to the wedding. Do you have a partner or best friend who can support you through it?

Ivelostmyglasses · 04/10/2025 15:28

LuLuLemonDrizzleCake · 04/10/2025 11:41

Didn't know you were qualified to know whether OP needs therapy about the wedding, but ok.

No one needs therapy to go to a wedding that could reactivate stalking by rapist is the point.

InterIgnis · 04/10/2025 15:06

Winnertrinner · 04/10/2025 14:55

They won’t know they’re ’availing themselves to facts’. They’ll know allegations are being made, those are very easily, and very often, dismissed as lies (incidentally, making the accused a figure of sympathy).

But that’s not the situation here at all.

The DF has a criminal record for CSA - that’s not an allegation - it’s shown he is a proven convicted paedophile - there will be documented court evidence that can’t be dismissed as lies.

Where has OP said that he’s a convicted pedophile?

InterIgnis · 04/10/2025 15:05

Winnertrinner · 04/10/2025 14:36

Why would this blow up if the OP handled it with professional support in a factual calm matter as has been recommended repeatedly on this thread?

Why would the son be shamed by his DF criminal actions?

Why would anyone accuse the OP of lying when there is documented criminal evidence of some of his SA crimes against children and against her?

It needs to be handled very carefully with direction from professionals on the likely impact
on the DS. However he is also an indirect victim of his abusive father’s manipulation so this needs to be considered and accounted for.

Because it very often does, sadly. People coddling abusers and further victimizing the actual victims is not uncommon.

OP hasn’t said he’s been convicted of sex crimes. He’s barred from working with children, which yes, can mean he’s been convicted of sexual offenses, but can also mean he’s been convicted of (non sexual) violent offenses, or neglect.

Winnertrinner · 04/10/2025 15:02

Hairycherry · 04/10/2025 14:56

No they haven’t. Stop lying

I am not lying.

I didn’t say they were your posts that I reported and that were subsequently recently deleted.

So you may now want to apologise for that accusation and assumption.

Hairycherry · 04/10/2025 14:56

Winnertrinner · 04/10/2025 14:48

I have also reported similar recent offensive posts and relieved to see MNHQ have just now deleted them.

No they haven’t. Stop lying

Winnertrinner · 04/10/2025 14:55

InterIgnis · 04/10/2025 14:41

They won’t know they’re ’availing themselves to facts’. They’ll know allegations are being made, those are very easily, and very often, dismissed as lies (incidentally, making the accused a figure of sympathy).

OP loves her son, and it doesn’t seem like estrangement from him and his future family is something she wants. Again, she is the one that has to live with the consequences of whatever action she takes. Only she can decide whether the price of trying to expose her ex is one she is willing to pay. OP is vulnerable, and she needs to prioritize her own mental health and make the decisions that are right for her, not the decisions that others think are right for her.

Is it fair and right that her son isn’t on her side? That her ex is unlikely to ever face justice for what he did to her? No, not at all. Unfortunately, we live in a world where it’s unlikely she’ll get those things, and this is the world she has to navigate.

They won’t know they’re ’availing themselves to facts’. They’ll know allegations are being made, those are very easily, and very often, dismissed as lies (incidentally, making the accused a figure of sympathy).

But that’s not the situation here at all.

The DF has a criminal record for CSA - that’s not an allegation - it’s shown he is a proven convicted paedophile - there will be documented court evidence that can’t be dismissed as lies.

Rosscameasdoody · 04/10/2025 14:50

InterIgnis · 04/10/2025 14:41

They won’t know they’re ’availing themselves to facts’. They’ll know allegations are being made, those are very easily, and very often, dismissed as lies (incidentally, making the accused a figure of sympathy).

OP loves her son, and it doesn’t seem like estrangement from him and his future family is something she wants. Again, she is the one that has to live with the consequences of whatever action she takes. Only she can decide whether the price of trying to expose her ex is one she is willing to pay. OP is vulnerable, and she needs to prioritize her own mental health and make the decisions that are right for her, not the decisions that others think are right for her.

Is it fair and right that her son isn’t on her side? That her ex is unlikely to ever face justice for what he did to her? No, not at all. Unfortunately, we live in a world where it’s unlikely she’ll get those things, and this is the world she has to navigate.

If, as OP says, her ex has been convicted of a sex crime and is on the register, then a Clare’s Law application may well expose him as a danger to everyone involved. Not so easily dismissed as ‘allegations’ when the facts are in front of you.

InterIgnis · 04/10/2025 14:50

Rosscameasdoody · 04/10/2025 14:41

And if/when the unthinkable happens and her ex either assaults her DiL or abuses their future children ? What then ? Do you think OP will have any kind of a relationship with her DS’s family when they inevitably discover that she had full knowledge of the risk he posed and kept quiet ?

I don’t know. I’m not pretending to have the answers here, because I absolutely do not. That is indeed something OP may want to consider (and if she does, I hope she realizes that if that happened, it wouldn’t be her fault). Unfortunately, there’s no getting around the fact that this is a mess of a situation that is unlikely to have a positive outcome. Sometimes the ‘best’ outcome isn’t a good one, but the least negative. What that means for OP only she can decide, hopefully with support for her mental health.