“We need to stop importing people who hate us”

I think we should all ( including and maybe especially The Monarch) should be swearing allegiance to the country. Instead of 'inviting' everyone to swear allegiance to him during his coronation KC should have sworn allegiance to us.

What do you think is worth defending?

Well I certainly wouldn’t be fighting to preserve Charlie boy and his bunch of inbreds!

How do you get that from what she said?

To add, it was you who brought in the mi5 and terrorism stuff. I was writing about the initial point of the post as in people who hate this country. I didn’t mention terrorism as not everyone who hates this country is a terrorist. So you’ve jumped on my post and decided to introduce a separate issue and then done so in a really ungracious, mocking way. Anyway, in terms of who hates this country, I do think people’s posts and allegiances say a lot. I don’t think that’s to be conflated with mi5 and I also don’t think my post was something so open for your mockery. That’s all I’ll say to you.

You are just putting words in my mouth and you know that.

It's like you've used the "uno reverse" card. Good DARVO though 👏

How can it be hate speech? No particular race or nationality was named and it's an obvious statement of common sense surely.

I'm an immigrant & I don't think they said anything wrong. While I wouldn't have phrased it like that, I'd broadly agree. It's so exhausting watching things get worse for immigrants generally because of a small minority enmeshed in cultures with completely different values. We're heading for a Reform government and endless hassle for millions of completely harmless immigrants because the Guardian is afraid to acknowledge that a bloke from Sudan doesn't have the same attitudes to women as a bloke from Norway. We're going to end up taking no asylum seekers at all because Progressives won't admit that the current asylum system rewards total chancers.

I really don’t know know what u r trying to achieve. You are calling me all sorts of names. You’re a strange one, probably with an axe to grind but unsure how to use the grinder.

im truly frightened what is happening in this country in the future, and it doesn’t help when people like you haven’t actually got a grasp on anything, and just resort to name cslling

No one is saying rape and abuse commited by white guys is ok though, this is how the narrative is getting spinned. It is men in general that commit most of these crimes, however bringing more men that come from a country where it is more culturally/religiously accepted to abuse and subjugate women will of course make things worse, add to this that a lot of them come here illegally and there is no record of whether they have previous history of violence, it's the perfect storm. No one is saying they are ok with crimes where the perpetrators are white.

That’s all well and good…

Except even when people show is that they hate Britain, we still let them stay. We absolutely can police these things after they’re brought to our attention.

Instead, we refuse to deport criminals and give them suspended sentences for violent crimes. Like the father of the synagogue terrors it who was spouting antiseptic views and advocating violence.

So….

They’ll be glad to hear from you. Given you think terrorism is such an easy problem to solve. Governments around the world will be queuing up for your advice.

You can’t but a good idea is which country they’re from. After waging war on Iraq for years, killing a million citizens, and destroying its cities and infrastructure, do you think they:

a) Love Britain
b) Hate Britain?

How can you tell who hates the UK and who doesn't?
Most people hoping to move to the UK will want to make a good life here, and won't come here intending harm. So how can you differentiate?
Obviously people who are known to have anti-UK views can be vetoed. But everyone else?

Since the thread is derailed anyway I don’t feel guilty derailing it further. The title reminds me of that clip of the American politician saying “We need to stop giving money to countries that hate us. They should be able to hate us for free.” Gives me a chuckle every time I see it. 😂

Thanks for the stunning advice.

It’s not hard 😂

You should give MI5 a call and tell them you can help them out.

What a malicious sounding post.

Which was long after they arrived here. We have no idea how this kid, or this parents, felt 30 years ago.

Saying ‘stop importing people who hate us’ will get lots of claps but it won’t save a single life of change a single thing.

Yeah - let’s not do that! Right…. How?

Ah, the grateful immigrant. Extra points for being a brown one too.

Stating your post was full of crass insults and hyperbole is not coming along and saying "you are stupid, thick, ignorant, racist ..." And whatever else you used. Hardly comparable Is it ?

Hey, I've got no skin in the game, but I do object to whole swathes of normal people with legitimate concerns on immigration being branded abhorrent names. In case you care to extend your virtue signalling to poorly educated people (they are also humans you know?Many of whom work very hard in jobs you and your white collar chums wouldn't want ) the way to describe their education status would be "poorly educated" : or is "thick" ok because they're not you're intended virtue signal receiver? Bet you're a lot more 'careful' how you speak then ?

And news flash : immigration isn't only a concern for the "stoopid," people.

This is so based! I find it remarkable that coming from a culture where my modern views would be frowned upon (Indian Hindu), there are women here in England telling me to shut up about issues (coming from my demographic) that would affect England.

It’s not hard. I look at their allegiances through posts, words and their actions. If they literally talk rubbish about Britain then it is clear they hate Britain. You bring up “ALL Muslims?” That is something you have brought up, I never said that. I’m south Asian myself, Indian, and have experienced racism for decades. So I don’t discriminate against people for their faith and appearance. I do, however, distance myself from anyone with harmful beliefs towards a country (Britain) that has given them a home. There’s far too many assumptions in your post.