“We need to stop importing people who hate us”

This. I'm disgusted at some of the views and behaviours we have pandered to, in terror of being accused of racism. The Rotherham rapists a prime example. I see so many leftist luvvies weeping for 'poor, brave, vulnerable 6ft transwomen' but not a word of support for the actual biological women of Afghanistan who are living in a medieval hell. Shame on the bastards who have turned their backs on women all over the world because it's more important to virtue signal than do good.

This. I'm disgusted at some of the views and behaviours we have pandered to, in terror of being accused of racism. The Rotherham rapists a prime example. I see so many leftist luvvies weeping for 'poor, brave, vulnerable 6ft transwomen' but not a word of support for the actual biological women of Afghanistan who are living in a medieval hell. Shame on the bastards who have turned their backs on women all over the world because it's more important to virtue signal than do good.

I think that as a country we need to be clear what our values are, and do our best to deport anyone who we can who does not share our values.

Our values - classical liberalism (ie, do what you like, unless it harms others), politeness, rule of law, capitalism (but with a safety net for the unlucky), tolerance (but not of intolerant people), freedom of speech, don't marry close family (just because the royals do it doesn't mean it's British)

I think we need to be honest about a difficult reality…many parts of the world hold values and societal norms that are fundamentally incompatible with those of the UK. I would love to believe that every human being is inherently good, but that simply isn’t true. In far too many societies, practices like child marriage and the routine abuse of women are not just tolerated but normalised. These views are upheld, not by fringe extremists, but by ordinary people.

It is not acceptable for those attitudes to be imported here. We have fought too hard and come too far in terms of women’s rights to allow misogynistic norms to take root in our society. Men who have been socialised in environments where violence and subjugation of women are everyday realities should not be given free rein to bring those mindsets into this country.

I say this as a British Sikh woman. I am not islamaphobic nor am I seeking approval by appeasing anyone (as I am often accused of when I share my views online).

And quite frankly, I am tired of the middle class tendency to posture and virtue signal under the guise of compassion. This superficial moralism may make some people feel enlightened, but it does nothing to protect women.

I think we need to be honest about a difficult reality…many parts of the world hold values and societal norms that are fundamentally incompatible with those of the UK. I would love to believe that every human being is inherently good, but that simply isn’t true. In far too many societies, practices like child marriage and the routine abuse of women are not just tolerated but normalised. These views are upheld, not by fringe extremists, but by ordinary people.

It is not acceptable for those attitudes to be imported here. We have fought too hard and come too far in terms of women’s rights to allow misogynistic norms to take root in our society. Men who have been socialised in environments where violence and subjugation of women are everyday realities should not be given free rein to bring those mindsets into this country.

I say this as a British Sikh woman. I am not islamaphobic nor am I seeking approval by appeasing anyone (as I am often accused of when I share my views online).

And quite frankly, I am tired of the middle class tendency to posture and virtue signal under the guise of compassion. This superficial moralism may make some people feel enlightened, but it does nothing to protect women.

I understand those regions very well, actually. How do you suggest an immigration system can work based on @Crowde stated positions? What of what she says is usable to form policy? How does it differ to current immigration policy?How much of it is simply jolly nice to hear for flag wavers?

No. You are misunderstanding regionalism in countries like India and Pakistan. They are huge, huge countries with massive class and ethnic differences. Anyone from Pakistan would be able to tell you where the people with the most problematic attitudes and beliefs are likely from. Same in India. There is a massive cultural difference between people brought up in rural villages in the middle of India and the educated middle classes who live in the cities. She is saying that if people move to a different country then they cannot be expected to keep belief systems from their village in India and expect it to be tolerated here, because certain parts of that that belief system shouldn't even be tolerated in India, never mind here.

No. You are misunderstanding regionalism in countries like India and Pakistan. They are huge, huge countries with massive class and ethnic differences. Anyone from Pakistan would be able to tell you where the people with the most problematic attitudes and beliefs are likely from. Same in India. There is a massive cultural difference between people brought up in rural villages in the middle of India and the educated middle classes who live in the cities. She is saying that if people move to a different country then they cannot be expected to keep belief systems from their village in India and expect it to be tolerated here, because certain parts of that that belief system shouldn't even be tolerated in India, never mind here.

No. You are misunderstanding regionalism in countries like India and Pakistan. They are huge, huge countries with massive class and ethnic differences. Anyone from Pakistan would be able to tell you where the people with the most problematic attitudes and beliefs are likely from. Same in India. There is a massive cultural difference between people brought up in rural villages in the middle of India and the educated middle classes who live in the cities. She is saying that if people move to a different country then they cannot be expected to keep belief systems from their village in India and expect it to be tolerated here, because certain parts of that that belief system shouldn't even be tolerated in India, never mind here.

She believes that men socialised in countries where women are subjugated shouldn't be here:
"Men who have been socialised in environments where violence and subjugation of women are everyday realities should not be given free rein to bring those mindsets into this country."

She confirmed that gender inequality is pronounced in South Asia and specifically India:
"I personally wouldn’t want to see people immigrating en masse from the central strip of India which is a region that remains deeply patriarchal and where women are often treated appallingly. That isn’t an attack on Indians, it’s a recognition of the reality that some areas are still socially regressive and resistant to change."

And she is explicit, stating:
"If someone, Muslim, Hindu, Sikh or otherwise, holds backward, misogynistic views, they have no place coming to the UK."

She is British Indian.
"I say this as a British Sikh woman"

Therefore her family - grandfathers, father, uncles, male cousins, and brothers (if first generation naturalised Britons) should not be here, in her opinion.

Clear enough?

Also I don’t want anyone hiding behind my skirts here, I’m not going to defend people who look vaguely similar to me incase I get targeted. Wrong is wrong. If you think forced marriage, FGM, child marriage, control over your wife, antisemitism is fine then thats on you. I’m not responsible for your dire beliefs and I don’t want to be force teamed with people I despise because we share a skin colour.

I think we need to be honest about a difficult reality…many parts of the world hold values and societal norms that are fundamentally incompatible with those of the UK. I would love to believe that every human being is inherently good, but that simply isn’t true. In far too many societies, practices like child marriage and the routine abuse of women are not just tolerated but normalised. These views are upheld, not by fringe extremists, but by ordinary people.

It is not acceptable for those attitudes to be imported here. We have fought too hard and come too far in terms of women’s rights to allow misogynistic norms to take root in our society. Men who have been socialised in environments where violence and subjugation of women are everyday realities should not be given free rein to bring those mindsets into this country.

I say this as a British Sikh woman. I am not islamaphobic nor am I seeking approval by appeasing anyone (as I am often accused of when I share my views online).

And quite frankly, I am tired of the middle class tendency to posture and virtue signal under the guise of compassion. This superficial moralism may make some people feel enlightened, but it does nothing to protect women.

I'm not sure what your point is and I am not convinced that you are either

I think we should all ( including and maybe especially The Monarch) should be swearing allegiance to the country. Instead of 'inviting' everyone to swear allegiance to him during his coronation KC should have sworn allegiance to us.

Not clear at all. Her critique is about specific regions and cultures ("the central strip of India" was her example), not countries. India is famously a country with very extreme class and cultural differences within its borders.

I don't know about her specific circumstances but with her specifically being Sikh I think it's hard to draw the conclusion you're drawing.

Well I certainly wouldn’t be fighting to preserve Charlie boy and his bunch of inbreds!

She believes that men socialised in countries where women are subjugated shouldn't be here:
"Men who have been socialised in environments where violence and subjugation of women are everyday realities should not be given free rein to bring those mindsets into this country."

She confirmed that gender inequality is pronounced in South Asia and specifically India:
"I personally wouldn’t want to see people immigrating en masse from the central strip of India which is a region that remains deeply patriarchal and where women are often treated appallingly. That isn’t an attack on Indians, it’s a recognition of the reality that some areas are still socially regressive and resistant to change."

And she is explicit, stating:
"If someone, Muslim, Hindu, Sikh or otherwise, holds backward, misogynistic views, they have no place coming to the UK."

She is British Indian.
"I say this as a British Sikh woman"

Therefore her family - grandfathers, father, uncles, male cousins, and brothers (if first generation naturalised Britons) should not be here, in her opinion.

Clear enough?

How do you get that from what she said?