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Aibu - BIL's wedding

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CordlessHoover · 02/10/2025 15:00

NC - but regular poster

We want outside opinions as following a conversation with MIL we are left asking ourselves... are we being unreasonable?

Sorry its long
Trying not to dripfeed...

  • BIL and SIL live an 8 hour flight away.
  • Their big fat wedding is next July.
  • for various reasons they got legally married this year in March. (Sil wore white, they had a photographer cake and a party attended by Sils family and MIL attended but its wasn't a "big" wedding. SiL wants a big wedding with all the bells and whistles. Her parents are really wealthy so its no problem there)
  • We have a 3 and 1 year old who will be 2 and 4
  • We had initially planned to go as a family and make the best of it and turn it into a family holiday (estimated total cost would have been about £11k all in)
  • BIL has told my DH he and SIL want the wedding and wedding venue to be "over-21s" only but there are some parts our children would be permitted to attend (a pre wedding dinner the day before and a section for 2 hrs or so on the day)
  • we were (understandably?) a bit / quite shocked.
  • They like / want kids themselves!? our DC will be the only cousins their children will ever have.
  • we digested the news and went back to explained that we respect their choice, its their day and they should have it how they want but that does make things tricky for us logistically so most likely my DH will likely attend solo and go for a long weekend.

We thought this was pretty reasonable...

Bil replied and said he wants "both of us" there and suggested maybe my mum could fly out with us and watch the kids. I dont know where to start with that suggestion 😅
Beyond the obvious... my DM is in not great physical health basically only babysits for us when the kids are asleep or for 2 hrs max.

Dh replied and said look its okay. I don't want you to stress about this, please don't change your plans. We've discussed it further and decided best thing for us as a family is for me to come solo.

Bil then phoned MIL... who the next day phoned DH for 90 mins or so.
She was pretty clear that she thought DH was in the wrong and he was going to cause a family rift. She also suggested he was looking for a way to avoid paying for going to the wedding. There was also a lot of chat about her being caught in the middle. Dh said she wasn't as it didnt really involve her...

Bil now is requesting a call to "discuss further".

DH left the call confused and unsure and I am now doubting myself as very honestly...we were willing to spend the money / take the annual leave / go through all the hassle before they told us our children weren't invited.

But then it seems wrong to
a. Drag the kids across multiple time zones to an event they arent welcome at. It means the 3 of us basically wont attend the wedding so why are we there? I don't get it...
B. spend so much on a holiday we dont especially want / wouldnt ever choose given the circumstances. (Our financial position has become significantly more unstable in the last 3 months.)

We looked at everyone going for the weekend only but that's even weirder / less practical than making it into a holiday

OP posts:
WearyAuldWumman · 02/10/2025 16:42

When my nephew got married, he and his bride organised a children's menu for the wedding breakfast and a childminder at the venue. It seemed like a very good idea to me.

I wonder whether the OP's BIL would be prepared to organise something similar?

YodasHairyButt · 02/10/2025 16:40

Remind them of this when they have their own kids and watch them cringe with embarrassment. YANBU at all, they can have whatever kind of wedding they want but your family is a package and so you are entitled to decline. They can lump it and MIL needs to keep her nose out.

CordlessHoover · 02/10/2025 16:40

Thanks for the responses - Feel fairly relieved reading these....

I've specifically tried to be neutral because I am very hurt bil/sil have gone down this route. I feel like it shows a massive gap in our values and the whole thing makes me quite sad.
Also there isnt much love loss between myself and MIL (partly because she's selfabsorbed as makes everything about her and partly because bil is mr. golden balls) so I wonder if thats colouring my view.

Regarding the money...
Yes I know it's slightly crazy money BUT family is very important and we saw this as welcoming SIL and I suppose the start of something... the next generation type thing? So we were prepared to just make it happen...
this thread has reminded me it is in fact more than we spent on our entire wedding! 😅

In terms of childcare...We just wouldnt be comfortable leaving our children with someone they dont know. Separately knowing them I'm skeptical they'd settle with "a stranger".

If we all went to the country in question... On the day itself we would all be able to be present for 2 hours max - for the rest of the day i'd be in a hotel room with 2 small kids... well I say that... actually i could be anywhere i wanted as we won't be able to stay at any of the rooms at the venue ( I can't think if the word but its sort of like a "great house" on a 400 acre estate type thing) so we'd need to rent a car and stay offsite which creates some logistics issues.

OP posts:
curious79 · 02/10/2025 16:39

It’s very insensitive of them. It’s hard enough for people to leave behind children of that age when there’s a wedding in the UK. You say you’re crossing multiple time zones. I wouldn’t want to leave children of that age behind.
If I was inviting people to my wedding, as I have actually done in the past, I have sorted out local childcare for people who have young young children. Recognising that they probably wouldn’t attend unless I made it easy for them.

I think you should be open about your finances and say it was always going be a stretch, and having to work out childcare makes it even more difficult

CopperWhite · 02/10/2025 16:37

These are people that 1) want TWO weddings 2) want a destination wedding that they know will cost their guests thousands and 3) want to avoid children at their wedding despite being told that would make it difficult for the grooms own brother to attend in full.

They are clearly incredibly entitled people with a huge sense of self importance. There is no way I’d be doing anything inconvenient for them. They sound awful. And I’d normally love the idea of a family destination wedding.

What if you’d decided to kick off about your children not being invited, as people on here sometimes do? Would MIL put pressure on them to invite her grandchildren, or does your MiL favour your BIL?

TheatricalLife · 02/10/2025 16:36

Redpeach · 02/10/2025 16:21

The 11 k would mostly be a great holiday, not the wedding

OP has said they wouldn't really pick the area for a holiday location, and also that their financial position isn't as good as it was. Sounds like unnecessary stress rather than a great holiday. I'm sure they would rather pick a location they really wanted to visit for a holiday, for less money and where the whole family could be involved in all of it.
DH going for the weekend is the perfect solution. Much cheaper and easier.
For MIL to blame THEM for starting a rift is outrageous. Imagine not only expecting someone to spend that amount of money, but to also spend thousands more on flying out the OPs mum to babysit for a few hours 😳 paying for return flights, insurance, food and accommodation. Unreal levels of entitlement.

jonthebatiste · 02/10/2025 16:36

Hahaha. You are so not being unreasonable - and this one I REALLY want to hear the outcome of because (1) it’s a groomzilla situation and we don’t often see those (2) MIL obviously under his thumb and/or in awe of SIL’s wealthy family and worried you’re making her side look like the poor relations (3) BIL obviously under the thumb of SIL and/or her wealthy family (4) I want to know how this enormous culture clash is going to play out with YOU being the designated unreasonable ones…for not blowing £11,000 on a party only half the family isn’t even invited to 😂

I’d also love to hear the language BIL uses to suggest that YOUR mother fly overseas to babysit your children 😂🤣

This is so utterly batshit!

JoshLymanSwagger · 02/10/2025 16:36

They're already married.
Don't waste your money or time on this.

Needlesnah · 02/10/2025 16:35

Redpeach · 02/10/2025 16:15

Because it will be a memorable and enjoyable occasion?

How will the OP find it memorable or enjoyable when she spends the majority of the time on her own, looking after the kids? She’ll miss just on all the good bits.

BettyTurpinPies · 02/10/2025 16:35

It's not a wedding, it's a party strung out over a few days.
They are married already.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 02/10/2025 16:33

Your BIL is a cheeky fucker.

His wife's family wealth has likely gone to his head, and he's lost all reality of how expensive this trip would actually be for you.

As for inviting you half-way across the world and then excluding your children, that's the ultimate audacity. Sure, yeah, just fly in your mother for how many extra thousand?? As I said, he's lost all fucking reality.

I think if he keeps up his entitled attitude, I'd end up telling him about himself.

Entitled, cheeky fucker.

Needlesnah · 02/10/2025 16:32

Maddy70 · 02/10/2025 16:15

Why don't you all go and the child free bits you go back to the hotel and do your own thing?

So the OP travels half way around the world, spends most of the time away on her own, looking after her two children? The majority of the events are no children so her DH will be attending and she’ll be left with the kids.
£11k to be practically a single mum in another country? Nah.

Lennonjingles · 02/10/2025 16:32

DH and I decided soon after we had DC if they weren’t invited, we as a family wouldn’t accept anything. We stuck to it, missed out on some things, but we are happy with our decision.

RandomGeocache · 02/10/2025 16:31

They are married already and will have been married over a year before their pretendy wedding which is really a fancy party.

Hard no. Your DH goes alone and his mum doesn't get involved with the batshittery.

walker1211 · 02/10/2025 16:27

I had a similar situation with my brother’s wedding even more ridiculous was it was during term time and during Covid! He was upset I wasn’t bringing my kids to his destination wedding that he was fitting in between travel bans and that they would only be invited to the pre event of. I just kept to my plan and now years later when they have two kids themselves it is never ever be mentioned again. People lose their minds it seems for weddings.

Nearly50omg · 02/10/2025 16:24

Just tell them after going back and looking at the finances the numbers don’t crunch so none of you will be able to go. If they come back and go on ask them bluntly are they offering to pay for all of you PLUS a nanny? If not then shut the fuck up

thereneverwasacloudyday · 02/10/2025 16:24

AT this point, I'd be having your whole family decline, husband included.

They're already married. It's a ridiculous demand that you all spend thousands to attend 'a party'.

Redpeach · 02/10/2025 16:22

Luxio · 02/10/2025 16:20

A party where they will have to juggle the children and be subjected to family who are argumentative and rude all whilst sinking 11k into the occasion doesn't sound very enjoyable.

And on the other hand, some of it will be enjoyable

Redpeach · 02/10/2025 16:21

Dontbeme · 02/10/2025 16:18

Spaffing eleven grand would certainly be memorable, but I don't know about enjoyable.

The 11 k would mostly be a great holiday, not the wedding

Luxio · 02/10/2025 16:20

Redpeach · 02/10/2025 16:15

Because it will be a memorable and enjoyable occasion?

A party where they will have to juggle the children and be subjected to family who are argumentative and rude all whilst sinking 11k into the occasion doesn't sound very enjoyable.

TheJessops · 02/10/2025 16:19

Your in-laws are being totally immature in their response however, can't you still all go? Seems the kids are invited to a fair chunk of it. You all go to the bits you are all invited to, then you go off with the kids for the adult part of the wedding and your husband stays till the end. Then for the rest of the time you are all still there to enjoy the family holiday. Chances are at 2 & 4 years old the kids will be going to bed way earlier than the wedding goes on for anyway so you (or whichever parent would be putting them to bed) and them wouldn't actually be missing much?

£11K is a drop in the ocean to some and absurdly unaffordable to others so no one can tell you if that is unreasonable or not.

Dontbeme · 02/10/2025 16:18

Redpeach · 02/10/2025 16:15

Because it will be a memorable and enjoyable occasion?

Spaffing eleven grand would certainly be memorable, but I don't know about enjoyable.

Redpeach · 02/10/2025 16:15

Luxio · 02/10/2025 16:11

All of the above might not be the right fit for the OP but if it's a choice between logistical challenges and a huge family rift (even though BIL is the unreasonable one) I'd personally go for figuring out the logistics and avoiding the row if physically possible.

Genuine question but why? Why should the OP and her family be the ones to make all the adjustments? It sounds like these in laws are the kind of people who will find anything to fall out over so if it's not this party then it will no doubt be something equally ridiculous and to be honest I'd rather say no now if I were the OP than have them fall out with me at a later date when I've spent 11K.

Because it will be a memorable and enjoyable occasion?

Maddy70 · 02/10/2025 16:15

Why don't you all go and the child free bits you go back to the hotel and do your own thing?

WhereYouLeftIt · 02/10/2025 16:14

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 02/10/2025 15:55

The sad thing is that even if your DH goes on his own, he will have to put up with all the rancour this attitude has stirred up with BIL and MIL.

Even if you all capitulated and did what they wanted, its not like they are suddenly going to start being nice to you both again is it? They don't sound like the type to get over arguments quickly.

I wouldn't wan't to go to a party where people were treating me like that. Much less spend £11k for the favour.

I think this is a very good point - the "family rift" MIL accused OP's husband was going to cause has already happened, thanks to her other son's ridiculous demands.

In which case, fuck it, save your eleven grand and send them a card!