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Not telling your child they have autism and ADHD

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AuADHD · 02/10/2025 07:34

My own child is likely autistic and ADHD and knows he’s on the pathway to be assessed. He also knows that I have both autism and ADHD.
I was talking to a school mum last week who had her daughter diagnosed privately. She hasn’t told her the outcome of the assessments and the child didn’t know she was being assessed. Her daughter is very bright academically but significantly behind socially compared to peers and really struggles. Frequent meltdowns at school and cannot cope with a basic school trip for example and will miss out on the year 6 residential. She finds school very challenging. She’s 9. My son is 10 and will be going to high school next year. The school has a SEND class of 10 out of the 1500 other students. It’s a massive school compared to the primary they are currently at. Her daughter went to the open day and was totally overwhelmed. There is no guarantee she would get a place in the SEND class which has students from all years and doesn’t follow the curriculum but focuses on life skills and tries to integrate them into the main school. I suggested that the local and excellent SEND school that’s only open to those with an EHCP which her daughter has might be an option. I’ve known the family since the daughter was 3 and it was obvious then she was autistic. Her parents refused to even consider assessment or the possibility until she was 7. Her mum looked at me horrified at the suggestion of the SEND school and stated her daughter doesn’t know she has any additional needs and said she’s too bright to go to that school. My friends daughter went there after struggling at primary and excelled in her GCSEs. It has small classes and excellent resources. I’d be considering it for my son but he doesn’t have an EHCP.
Am I being unreasonable in thinking that it’s awful that a bright child who is upset by her struggles and asks why she’s not like other kids doesn’t know she’s autistic and has ADHD? My view might be influenced by being late diagnosed and struggling through school and life and not knowing. If I’d have known my life might have been very different. I just don’t see the value in keeping something so important a secret.
Hard hat on seeing as it’s AIBU!

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Simonjt · 05/10/2025 16:48

Soontobe60 · 02/10/2025 07:36

Why is a 9 year old going to an open day at a high school? She won’t be going for 2 years as she’ll only be in Y5 at the most currently.

If you don’t do all the tours and transition evenings in year 5, how will you know which schools to apply for? Or did you just guess and hoped they felt okay when you visited after the application deadline?

MollyButton · 05/10/2025 16:45

At 9/10 my DD and a friend told a boy in their year he had ASD. He had been diagnosed but they didn’t know that. They could tell and explained to him why he felt so different. (My DD is autistic, but also self diagnosed at 9 before getting an official diagnosis at 10.)

BogRollBOGOF · 05/10/2025 16:11

I can understand denial and reluctance to have a child assessed.

Some children won't have the cognitive ability to understand their diagnosis so there isn't a benefit in making them aware of it or not.

I can't understand why parents would go down an assessment pathway which has to be opted into and involves multiple stages, and then not make their child aware of its purpose and the outcome if they have the development to understand their differences and to feel the effects of them.

DS1 was 9 when he was assessed, the diagnosis was made in front of him (I wasn't expecting it that day and for the consultant to be so definitive about it) so we talked about it and what it meant on the way home and what it meant and have had an open dialogue since then. Being open about it (and his other diagnoses) from a fairly early age means he accepts it and reasonable adjustments connected to it better than if I'd withheld that information until a non-existant "right time". During the assessment process I'd told him that it was about finding out how his brain works- true and not biasing towards an outcome of which I was unsure of.

DS2 is asthmatic. I'd be negligent if I withheld that information and just let him belief that he's unfit and should try harder at breathing better. It would be downright dangerous. It would also risk harm to DS1's mental health to deny him the opportunity to understand his mental processes

I have encountered diagnosed children where parents have told care-givers and left the child to struggle in ignorance and it makes it much harder to adapt around the child's difficulties because it leaves a whopping great elephant in the room. You can't apply the adjustments that may be needed because you're left unable to treat the child differently according to their needs. Autistic children with high intelligence tend to like logical reasons, and the biggest logical reason in their life is being kept from them.

mummymissessunshine · 05/10/2025 15:06

Burntt · 02/10/2025 09:46

The stats for those who know they are autistic and those who don’t/late diagnosis are shocking. Off the top of my head 9 out of 10 autistic women have been sexually assaulted. That figure drops among those who know they are autistic. Substance abuse and poor mental health worse in autistic women who don’t know compared to those who know. Can’t remember if it was just men or both sex’s but the male prison population has higher proportion of autistics/meet criteria but not diagnosed than not.

I don’t think you are unreasonable to feel as you do OP but it’s not our place to intervene for these kids- they are not our kids. I have told my kids and know it was the right thing.

According to some of the specialists I follow on LinkedIn - current studies suggest at least 85% of the prison population would meet the ADHD diagnosis threshold and the vast majority are undiagnosed and untreated when they enter the prison system. At least 50% would also meet the diagnostic criteria for ASD. Similar numbers also with co-occurring mental health issues.

The stats were shared by some activists whose sons died by suicide in prison and it was considered their sons’ lack of / late diagnosis left them more vulnerable and in fact their lack of treatment probably contributed to them ending up in trouble with the law in the first place.

also shocking stats about undiagnosed ASD & ADHD increasing risk of death by misadventure or suicide and abusing drugs and alcohol.

FuzzyWolf · 05/10/2025 15:01

Soontobe60 · 02/10/2025 07:36

Why is a 9 year old going to an open day at a high school? She won’t be going for 2 years as she’ll only be in Y5 at the most currently.

It’s quite normal for secondary open days to be for those in Y5 as well as Y6 (and sometimes Y4).

confusedlab47 · 05/10/2025 14:46

Well at least she has gotten her assessed - compared to parents I know who ignored concerns, refused referrals etc. I’d worry about my own Sen dc and not anyone else’s as that’s all I can try to affect.

sounds like the mum herself might need an assessment..

AuADHD · 05/10/2025 14:31

She has social stories for every transition or activity like going outside of the school grounds although she often refuses to go. She has significant needs and school are very good at making adjustments for ND children. Dad is a wet blanket who doesn’t understand his child and leaves all parenting to mum. I suspect both parents are ND. She works from home but yes, that would be impacted by her Dd being a school refuser. She already says her child is unlikely to live independently when she reaches adulthood but she very much babies her which doesn’t help. Yes, she’s very obviously behind socially and emotionally but with the right input I don’t see why not.

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Needlenardlenoo · 05/10/2025 14:19

She's also failing her by being so blasé about the primary to secondary transition.

Getting my AuDHD daughter to settle into a secondary required loads of school research and taking the LA to tribunal twice to get the most suitable school named on an EHCP.

I was motivated by knowing that it is extremely common for autistic girls to develop EBSA in year 7 or 8.

Also, I am a school teacher and it would most likely be the end of my career as it is presently if my DD couldn't attend school.

If your friend wants and/or needs to work, OP, you might point out that ignoring her DD's needs is potentially potentially a very risky strategy for her, never mind the DC.

ladybirdsanchez · 05/10/2025 13:25

It sounds like this woman is failing her DD on many fronts - not telling her about her diagnosis, not explaining to her why she struggles with certain things and gets overwhelmed, not teaching her basic manners and self-awareness so that she is struggling even more socially than she needs to and is ostracised by her peers due to her rudeness.

AuADHD · 05/10/2025 13:13

Thanks for the votes.

Some year 5s look round early. I think I did with my eldest. The mum told me looking round the school led to a complete meltdown due to being overwhelmed. It’s a massive place compared to their primary school and I feel sorry for this child who isn’t coping with primary yet is expected to attend a big mainstream secondary. Mum seems to tho k that because she’s intelligent she’ll excel at school. She also has demand avoidance and I can’t see how that will work in a child who cries over being told to do things and won’t wear the current uniform correctly. I don’t know if they’ll make allowances and allow her to wear a polo shirt but I’ve never seen a student in a polo shirt and I’ve had two dc at the school. They are strict on uniform. The kind that has to issue emails to permit no blazers or tights in heatwaves 🙄

This thread has reassured me that I’m doing the right thing in involving my Ds in his assessment process and discussing with him why he’s being assessed.

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ThatGreenFawn · 04/10/2025 13:05

Soontobe60 · 02/10/2025 07:36

Why is a 9 year old going to an open day at a high school? She won’t be going for 2 years as she’ll only be in Y5 at the most currently.

In my area, if you have an EHCP, you have to name the secondary school in the EHCP by March of year 5, which may be the reason they are looking early.

AnyoneWhoHasAHeart · 04/10/2025 08:13

A lot of parents are in denial about having a child with a disability, and when it’s a so called invisible disability they have the ability to remain so.

x2boys · 04/10/2025 08:03

stichguru · 02/10/2025 08:10

As someone with a disability (Cerebral Palsy, but very mild) I cannot fathom why you wouldn't tell your child they have a disability. I mean I guess it's vaguely possible that an autistic child wouldn't recognise they were different to their peers because their autism would prevent them seeing it? I knew when I was 2 and was very thankful that my parents begun to explain it to me in a child friendly way then. The differences between me and my peers have always been there. It I hadn't known why I could keep up I imagine I would have had a horrible life.

It depends on the child and how the autism impacts them my severely autistic son doesn't even know what autism is and is completely oblivious to how different he is compared to other kids his age .

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 04/10/2025 07:56

Threads is full of late diagnosed NDs who find out that their parents had them diagnosed but didn't tell them. They don't look kindly on that.

Sirzy · 04/10/2025 07:50

MeAndTheDoggo · 04/10/2025 07:42

We didn’t tell our daughter for about a year. She was 10 when we did. Being a send parent is so hard. This doesn’t need to be a question on here

I think it’s a very valid question, those going through it now may be struggling with how to handle things with their child so hearing how others have done - and any long term impact of that approach - can be useful.

MeAndTheDoggo · 04/10/2025 07:42

We didn’t tell our daughter for about a year. She was 10 when we did. Being a send parent is so hard. This doesn’t need to be a question on here

PrincessFairyWren · 04/10/2025 01:06

Burntt · 02/10/2025 09:46

The stats for those who know they are autistic and those who don’t/late diagnosis are shocking. Off the top of my head 9 out of 10 autistic women have been sexually assaulted. That figure drops among those who know they are autistic. Substance abuse and poor mental health worse in autistic women who don’t know compared to those who know. Can’t remember if it was just men or both sex’s but the male prison population has higher proportion of autistics/meet criteria but not diagnosed than not.

I don’t think you are unreasonable to feel as you do OP but it’s not our place to intervene for these kids- they are not our kids. I have told my kids and know it was the right thing.

I have two autistic sons and we told them both. We didn’t explain during the diagnostic process (aged 7) but afterwards. My kids were already engaged with speech pathology and occupational therapy so were used to appointments so didn’t really ask questions.

Your post about the outcomes for autistic individuals who do and don’t know are really affirming to me because it shows that learning about yourself and engaging in therapy has a positive impact. Sometimes I just want to crawl into a cave and never do another appointment again.

MysticalBiscuit · 03/10/2025 15:31

I think I'd be more likely to tell my child in an age/understanding appropriate way, and give them some choice over who else knows about it.

dizzydizzydizzy · 03/10/2025 14:50

I used to work with a young woman with autism and ADHD. She was diagnosed as a child and her parents didn't tell her or the school because they didn't want her to have a 'label'. She thinks her parents did the right thing. I am absolutely baffled by this decision, especially the decision not to tell the school. She almost certainly would have needed some extra help and also possibly would have been granted extra time in exams.

I don't agree with describing ADHD or autism as a label - because they are extremely significant diagnoses and saying 'label' sounds so dismissive.

Apart from the 'misunderstanding' that ADHD and autism are merely labels and carry stone kind of stigma, I cannot think of any reason why parents would not tell their child, especially an intelligent one. I don't believe children and young people today see any stigma in neurodivergence whereas a significant number of mature adults do .

I'm in my 50s and was recently diagnosed with autism and ADHD. Young adult DC2 was also recently diagnosed.

Mandylovescandy · 03/10/2025 14:43

When is the plan to tell her? We waited a bit for them to be a little older, to discuss between us how we wanted to present it and to make sure DC (who can be a little rigid in their thinking) didn't interpret it as I am autistic so I can't do X and Y when actually although they struggle with it they are making lots of progress so I can understand a delay. We didn't though tell anyone else as that seems extra unfair and potentially risks the child hearing from someone else

Fearfulsaints · 03/10/2025 14:40

I think its a shame. The knowledge might really help her progress.

AuADHD · 03/10/2025 14:33

I think the feelings of failure are very close to home on this and maybe why it’s upset me. I’ve gone through life wondering why I’ve failed at most things compared to what I was capable of. On the surface I'm
successful but I’m nowhere near where I could have been. I’d hate anyone else to experience that. Each to their own but I know my own children won’t be operating under false pretences. I’ll be giving them everything I can to help navigate the world taking into account their disabilities. It’s not nice knowing I’m disabled and that my children are too but it’s fact. I try not to think of myself of lesser because I’m different but I feel lesser when faced with things I struggle with. I’ve experienced burnout as a child. No child should suffer that.

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AuADHD · 02/10/2025 10:16

Chickenintheoven · 02/10/2025 09:13

The labels that she and others will attach up her ‘weirdo’ ‘quirky’ ‘freak’ are far worse than the explanation of knowing ‘I am autistic. I have adhd’

the feelings of ‘failure’ at not fitting in with peers and socially are much better mitigated and understood when you know and accept how you tick,…

their child - their choice - but personally I feel you go a child a great disservice and set them up for far greater MH issues if you ton’s tell them their nd diagnosis and help them up embrace it fully as who they are…

sounds like a lot of denial and ignorance in this family - so many people still think specialist education is only for severely physical or severe intellectual impairment. When in reality some very very bright autistic children thrive in the right specialist provision when their sensory needs are met and their learning styles embraced, but will fail in mainstream not because of their intelligence levels but because it is too big and to inflexible to meet their needs.

The poor kid has no friends at school or outside of school. Always alone at break according to ds. He did try and be friendly but her behaviour is intolerable to him due to his own sensory issues mainly and the fact that she’s just so rude and won’t accept no as an answer. I think her mum believes that someone with autism and ADHD can’t be taught manners and should never have their behaviour corrected or challenged.For example waiting for the train together she said my phone was a waste of money and said the same about something special to ds upsetting him. Her mum didn’t challenge her at all. She will literally push herself into people’s space then her mum just says the child not happy with her behaviour and saying no is being mean. Secondary will sadly eat her alive. I’m worried about my child managing at secondary school. I think Im actually feeling angry with this mum for setting her child up to struggle through life more than autism and ADHD would make it difficult anyway.

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PurpleMilk · 02/10/2025 09:48

Sirzy · 02/10/2025 07:58

I find it hard to see how a child who has some understanding of things can go through the diagnosis process and be completely oblivious to what is going on!

I have always been open with DS (within his understanding) about his neurodiversity and his medical conditions. They are all part of what makes him him so he needs to understand as best as possible.

Yes exactly. She'll be aware that she's been assessed, that there's some kind of problem that can't be talked about and will probably be feeling a lot of shame due to the secrecy.
You cant say anything directly but you might gently talk about the benefits for others of knowing about their diagnosis

Burntt · 02/10/2025 09:46

The stats for those who know they are autistic and those who don’t/late diagnosis are shocking. Off the top of my head 9 out of 10 autistic women have been sexually assaulted. That figure drops among those who know they are autistic. Substance abuse and poor mental health worse in autistic women who don’t know compared to those who know. Can’t remember if it was just men or both sex’s but the male prison population has higher proportion of autistics/meet criteria but not diagnosed than not.

I don’t think you are unreasonable to feel as you do OP but it’s not our place to intervene for these kids- they are not our kids. I have told my kids and know it was the right thing.