Fat discrimination is a gateway to other forms of discrimination

It's not ridiculous at all, you need to drink in much the same way you need to eat. The issue is not choosing the right food or drink, in fact I'd say the urge to consume alcohol would be more difficult to resist than the urge to eat something high fat or sugar. It's all about what we choose to consume. That also includes smoking. We need to breathe just like we need to eat , it's what we choose to eat or breathe that's the issue.
"You don't drag on a cigarette to get oxygen."
Well you don't need to eat a pack of chocolate biscuits to get calories, you can choose something healthy.
"both of which can easily be completely avoided to prevent can addiction developing."
As can rubbish food.

It makes me so upset to hear stories of people suffering like this and to think that people are heaping sanctimonious condemnation on top of that.

Don't let anyone beat you up @GrumpyInsomniac . The truth is I am healthy weight post dc but I have to watch what I eat far more than before I had them. All my life until my 30's I could eat whatever I damn well wanted and quite honestly I was plain greedy. And thin. Very thin. Size 4 or 6 thin. Wasn't fair when friends were watching their intake, but there you go.

What that has taught me is that people's bodies are different - and even the very same body can be different at different times of your life. Unless you have been in a particular body at a particular time you simply cannot claim to know. And there can be barriers to healthy eating and exercise - financial, physical disability and also just pure lack of time to oneself first because of responsibilities to others.

There is so much wrong with the world at the moment - mostly fuelled by nastiness. Why people put so much effort into lambasting overweight people I genuinely cannot comprehend. It actually sickens me with it's small-mindedness. Lots of things make people ill or emotionally ill yet they aren't banging on about all those things - or trying to help people overcome them.

As someone said on this thread or the other - yes another - thread currently on this topic, it tends to be less intelligent people who focus on it.

Don't be ridiculous. Is that really the level of thinking on here now? By drink I mean "consume alcohol." You don't drink alcohol to quench thirst or hydrate. You don't drag on a cigarette to get oxygen. People have to eat several times a day. Time, money, medication, all sorts will factor into what they consume but they MUST consume something. That is not true of alcohol or cigarettes, both of which can easily be completely avoided to prevent can addiction developing.

How is it different to someone that binge eats but then makes themselves vomit or exercise for hours afterwards so they remain a normal size? The behaviour is very much rooted in the same lack of control and gluttony ? I say this as someone who really struggled with this same issue of obesity

This. Sorry for what you're having to deal with OP.

Oh, it’s you.

It’s not ludicrous, it’s just two steps ahead of you, because I’ve done OP the courtesy of thinking she has already raised this with her employers and they have done nothing.

It’s absolutely ok to see your union or a lawyer about bullying.

Well we also HAVE to drink (some people will insist in alcohol in their drink) we also HAVE to breathe (some people will insist on breathing through a fag ) and yes we ALSO HAVE to EAT ( some people will insist on eating too much rubbish) it's all about what we CHOOSE to drink, breathe and or eat isn't it really?

As a pp said, ludicrous and pointless advice like this helps no-one.

@AnxiousApocalypse I'm so sorry people are being vile to you. You do need to address it with HR though. It's bullying. But yeah, some people do love to comment when someone is fat. Coz ya know, when someone is carrying say, 6-7 stone plus of extra weight, they don't realise it themselves, so they need people to tell them. 🙄

Or you could (if you don't want to report it) say 'oh wow, thanks for telling me I'm overweight, I would NEVER have known if you hadn't been good enough to inform me. Thank you THANK you, THANK YOU!!!!!' Then just scowl at them.

No, I genuinely think if OP’s employer is complicit in the bullying then OP should speak to her union or a lawyer. The law is on her side.

I’m fat. Been fat all my life. It was a choice.

There are, if you can afford them. To be prescribed them, you need a referral to a Tier 3 weight loss service. The problem? Across the country the vast majority are now closed to new referrals because they have a waiting list of 3 years.

Because of this, there has been a recent introduction of a scheme to allow GPs to prescribe them, but only to people who meet 4 conditions out of 5. And actually, the number of people who meet the requirements is a tiny amount because even at a BMI of 47, it is possible to only have one of the other qualifying conditions like type 2 diabetes, high cholesterol, or high blood pressure.

As someone who is obese and disabled, I can’t rely on exercise to shift the weight and I am often reliant on my husband and son to cook. I can’t get referred to a Tier 3 service despite being entitled to that referral under normal circumstances because none are open to new referrals. And I can’t afford the injections privately because I’m too disabled to work right now.

So yes, it sucks. I have managed to lose some weight this year and it has taken forever to shift what I have. At this rate it will take years of people like you patronising me because you’re completely ignorant of the reality. I will get there eventually, but it really is by no means as simple as you’re trying to make out.

I think you said something just to see how many notifications you could get😄

It seems I already have! 😂

Do you struggle with understanding boundaries generally, or just when it comes to fat people?

A load of posters called someone's husband and fat this and that because they found him lacking. If someone is bad and fat, then many people here think it is okay to insult how they look including their weight.

Nomas you are going to upset people.

And what business is it of your's? I can understand how you will be worried about people who you love being morbidly obese. But for everyone else?

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I’m not sure that’s true, I have seen so many many threads where women say I’m not fat, I’m just a bit overweight, or now I’ve lost it I didn’t see how fat I was. Or I don’t look fat, I carry it well, no one would guess I’m so heavy, a size 16 isn’t fat. A size 18 isn’t fat, it’s one above the average. BMI is bullshit. We need to be a bmi 27 as we are older. It’s not fat. So many comments. Many many can’t see it or are in denial. And I see loads of people saying you’re not fat, no, when the poster clearly is and has posted an image.

i myself gained weight and slipped into the obese category, i kidded myself i was a size 16 at 5ft 7, as i wore stretchy clothes, I thought i looked fine but sure had gained some weight. I was fat. I looked fat. But the dysmorphia and denial were real; if you told me I was fat I’d think you an offensive fool.

many many people who are fat will not accept they are fat. To the extent they will even look at a healthy weight person and deem them underweight, because if they are a healthy weight then that means they must be fat. And they won’t have it.

so no, I don’t agree with you that fat people always know they are fat.

Watching people choose to be fat is incredibly frustrating. There are medications and treatments available

I do wonder when people say that, show me an overweight person who isn't aware they're overweight and I'll show you a male MET officer who isn't a racist/homophobic/misogynistic prick... ie neither exist

Sounds like a you problem, not a them problem @ufo .

As a fat person, this is shit. It’s not discrimination

Do you mean the police officer who said the woman was so fat she had “two pussies” her normal one and another basically which was fat encasing it. That police officer??

What exactly for?

I've had alcoholic colleagues and I would not have made any comments to them about it, because it's not appropriate in the workplace if it isn't impacting on their work. Which it wasn't at that point. So, nothing to do with me.

Saying "You've put on weight" to anyone is so very very pointless. Do you think they don't know? Do you think they think that no one else can tell? How does saying that to them help at all?