To feel a bit bad for the met police on bbc panorama undercover

Yes, all 30,000 of them are bad ‘uns!!

I am going to need evidence. How many ‘good ones’ do you know? My experience is the Met is a disgrace. Feel free to prove me wrong.

I don't understand how 37% of people can agree with a post in support of misogynistic racists.

But there are also the gpod ones who want the bad ones in quote pulled out ...some do a fantastic job and others like the ones that have been caught out a very poor job they need to be pulled out .We have a whole generstion who dont trust the police and we dont need to wonder why .

@Bloodyscarymary I actually work in a role that is related to promoting DEI … God help us then, you work to promote Diversity, Equity and Inclusion - this documentary showed the complete opposite in practise, and you’re okay with that 🤔😵‍💫 just wow

We don’t live in a little bubble. I used to work with homeless people with psychotic symptoms. I just don’t think “works with grumpy foreigners “ is something to wail about.

For heavens sake read my 1st post. I didn't say the taxi driver was the worst in humanity. I said that police offers encounter both.
I love how people live in a little bubble and never see what is going on in the world outside of it!

To be honest, isn't that most taxi drivers? I mean, they're not known for being the most considerate on the roads!

But how is that ‘the worst of humanity’? He’s parked illegally and being a bit of a knob.

There’s new A.I. software coming out that translates languages as you speak and will also translate back your English. So all this I don’t speak English bollox should stop -it will be expensive but will stop the £££ spent on translators.

Poor immigrant? If he supposedly couldn't speak English what the hell was he doing working as a taxi driver? How did he even pass his driving test if he didn't know English? Actually it was a tactic and standard response of a lot of those men.
Yes of course their were white men who offended too. I am simply saying that police officers see the worst and the best of humanity in their jobs.

I'm afraid that was my reaction too. At worst he was a piss taker committing a minor traffic offence. I'm sure he met with as much if not worse from white offenders.

How is some poor immigrant not speaking English the horrific equivalent of all the other grotesque things your ex suffered?

I watched the whole show and I thought it was a bit of a honey trap. However those officers were clearly in the wrong. My ex was a police officer in a Bedfordshire police force. Does anyone remember the Marsh Farm riots? At that time the Met officers came to help out. I remember my ex saying they were animals. Instead of arresting the the yobs causing the riot they simply took them down a back lane (so to speak) and beat them up. Then the local bobbies had to deal with the aftermath. The problem is the law is so soft these yobs just get their wrists slapped and an asbo which is a badge of honor to them. Your average yob cannot tell the difference between different police uniforms. As far as they are concerned 'All coppers are b@st@rds'. I think being in the police force they see the worst of everything as well as the good. My ex hated it if he heard parents threatening young kids with the police if they were naughty. Just who exactly goes looking for lost children? A child should be able to approach a police officer when necessary without being scared. As for the racist comments in the show. I recall my ex spitting feathers as he told me he was trying to get a non white taxi driver off double yellow lines and the offender just said 'Speak no English'! He had to go to the hospital mortuary when there was a BID (brought in dead) person and was in tears when he saw a baby on the slab. He once had to go to a burglary where the offenders had stuck the house owner's cats, one in the freezer and one in the microwave. He also was the 1st officer there when someone jumped from a tall building when it was dark. He went to do CPR but as he went to tilt the person's head his hand sunk into their brain cavity. Then he noticed the rest of the persons head splattered all over the pavement! I wouldn't have liked to do his job in a million years.

I never knew why.

surely everybody has to act within the law? If you break the law, then you may have an acceptable reason for doing so but as a baseline the law covers everyone?

So, just brush the dangerous and abhorrent behaviour of presumably a minority of officers, all under the carpet to protect the force from the public?
This type of view will be welcomed by these rogue officers who likely feel that it will all blow over and they can go back to business as usual.
The Met chief needs to do more to root them out.

In response to Paul2023

They should have to act within the law when dealing with the general public, no?

And shocking, having a criminal record, I did not know! But would argue two different issues.

That last line is important.

At the moment they do not HAVE to act within the law. Having a criminal record doesn't stop you being in the police.

The misogyny and racism shown was absolutely abhorrent, so far from 'foolish banter.' The physical abuse and use of force on people in their care, often vulnerable people. The way minorities and women were spoken about, creating a culture or fear and control, knowing their rank would protect them. Awful.

Police Officers are expected to protect and treat people equally with attitudes and behaviours such as those shown in the program they have shown they cannot be trusted to do that, and as such should be exposed for their failings.

I have known police who don't trust the police.

I would say "stupidity" rather than ignorance. Ignorance implies that once you know better, you do better.

That is insane... so sorry. Did you ever find out why?

Back in local press days in Brighton in my early 20's, colleague and I were covering an animal rights protest. Cops told us all, press included not to step off the pavement. My colleague put one foot on the road to take a photo down the line of people, was arrested. Not just arrested but roughed up too and his camera smashed.

The police and CPS took it all the way to court, denying the rough treatment, saying that he was aggressive. There was footage of the rough treatment which the police 'lost'. About a month before the court date a protester got in touch with the paper with more footage that she'd taken of the police manhandling of the photographer and my friend not fighting back at all with the arrest. The case was then dropped. This was an eye opener for me and ever since while I will treat a decent copper with the utmost respect, I don't trust any of them. The stress that caused my colleague was unreal.

Police HAVE to act within the law and they should all be fair, impartial and follow the very law they represent.

Between the ages of 17 and 23, with a small gap of about a year, I was subjected to 'dirty phonecalls' by someone we found out was a member of the RUC. Bear in mind this was before mobile phones. He would use telephone boxes and only by our own detective work and help from my cousin who was in the force were we able to find out who it was. I remember vividly being told by a senior police WOMAN that if he was prosecuted, he 'could lose his job'. That was almost 30 years ago and I have never forgotten it. Could I have cared less if he lost his job? No. I have zero time for most of the police because I know for a fact that so many of them think they are above the law.