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To want my child to have cosmetic surgery?

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Savethewhales1 · 01/10/2025 19:09

I have an 8 year old DD, her ears have always protruded quite significantly. Up until recently, shes never mentioned them, nobodies ever mentioned them to her. She was recently part of a weddings bridal party and while getting ready made a number of comments about her “elf ears”. It’s the first time I’d ever heard her mention them and made me really sad.

I’d like to solve this problem now, as I believe it will likely become an area of great insecurity for her in the future and avoid any teasing down the line (girls can be cruel). I also believe it may be available on the NHS while she’s a child. However, I don’t want to make her self conscious of her ears if she isn’t and cause the insecurity.

So, AIBU?
YANBU - get them pinned back
YABU - don’t risk making her insecure if she isn’t

OP posts:
XenoBitch · 02/10/2025 00:07

thelakeisle1 · 02/10/2025 00:04

Why are you arguing with points nobody made or even implied?

Is it because you don't actually have any good points to make and are trying to derail? I think that's it tbh.

Or is it that you just don't grasp the simple realities of this discussion?

Or do you actually think that if you keep frantically waving a magic wand, reality will ripple around you and change?

So, as stated - prominent ears are not normal. Bullying is.

We all wish reality wasn't real at various times. But it is.

We make our decisions based on facts and material realities, not wishes and daydreams.

Bullying is normal but it should not be.
Why not change that instead of saying kids should be told by their parents that they are deformed and abnormal and need fixing.
Like I said in PP, my DP has massive sticky out ears. I love them. They are part of him. I would never say they are ugly or abnormal and why would I? So why tell your own small child that their ears are ugly and need fixing? I do not get it.

thelakeisle1 · 02/10/2025 00:05

mrlistersgelfbride · 02/10/2025 00:03

I’d do it OP.
I have a huge nose with a hump and I’ve got teased about it as long as I can remember- I hated it when I was a child and got a fair few very nasty comments growing up.
I would have loved it if it was something that could have been easily sorted! I don’t see any drawbacks.
Ears being pinned back wasn’t labelled plastic surgery when we were kids it was a common procedure that lots of people had.

Edited

Agree, it's been around for decades and was just called ear pinning. Really standard procedure. I am sorry about the teasing you had to endure, truly. I was teased and bullied as a kid for other things, it leaves its mark.

AngryBird6122 · 02/10/2025 00:05

XenoBitch · 02/10/2025 00:02

And some people do not need glasses at all. A decent optician would make glasses that fit. They had to do that for me in the end.

sorry but I just thinking you are deliberately being obtuse as I said. no point me arguing my point back anymore

thelakeisle1 · 02/10/2025 00:04

XenoBitch · 01/10/2025 23:54

Ok, so something that only affects 1-2% should be seen as ugly and something to be fixed? Like ginger hair?
And some reasons kids are bullied is not something that is fixed.

Again, teach your kids to be accepting of all difference even sticky out ears. They are not ugly or abnormal. Just not common, and that is fine.
Think about the message you are sending out to those kids that are ok with their ears. That they must get them fixed because they are ugly and most people have "good" ears.

Why are you arguing with points nobody made or even implied?

Is it because you don't actually have any good points to make and are trying to derail? I think that's it tbh.

Or is it that you just don't grasp the simple realities of this discussion?

Or do you actually think that if you keep frantically waving a magic wand, reality will ripple around you and change?

So, as stated - prominent ears are not normal. Bullying is.

We all wish reality wasn't real at various times. But it is.

We make our decisions based on facts and material realities, not wishes and daydreams.

mrlistersgelfbride · 02/10/2025 00:03

I’d do it OP.
I have a huge nose with a hump and I’ve got teased about it as long as I can remember- I hated it when I was a child and got a fair few very nasty comments growing up.
I would have loved it if it was something that could have been easily sorted! I don’t see any drawbacks.
Ears being pinned back wasn’t labelled plastic surgery when we were kids it was a common procedure that lots of people had.

XenoBitch · 02/10/2025 00:02

AngryBird6122 · 01/10/2025 23:58

My dd couldn't wear glasses.

And some people do not need glasses at all. A decent optician would make glasses that fit. They had to do that for me in the end.

thelakeisle1 · 01/10/2025 23:59

I'm not sure why some people are pretending that the OP doesn't love her child just as she is. She clearly just understands that reality doesn't care how you feel and that she cannot control the vicious behaviour of others.

Bullying in childhood is linked to poor mental health outcomes, suicidal ideation and all sorts of bad stuff.

If you can take a target off your kids' back, it's a good idea to do so. How I wish all the issues for kids could be so easily solved.

You're a great mum OP, do the right thing for your child - ignore the people on this thread trying to bully you.

AngryBird6122 · 01/10/2025 23:58

XenoBitch · 01/10/2025 23:56

Neither are sticky out ears. They are just an aesthetic difference.

My dd couldn't wear glasses.

AngryBird6122 · 01/10/2025 23:57

XenoBitch · 01/10/2025 23:55

He was bullied for being enthusiastic about his special interest. Would that be something you would fix in your own kid?

personally, my son, would I fix his autism with a surgery? No, but that's because it's on the mild end and presents in the way you described. Would I if it was severe? Hell yes.

XenoBitch · 01/10/2025 23:56

AngryBird6122 · 01/10/2025 23:54

ginger hair is not a deformity

Neither are sticky out ears. They are just an aesthetic difference.

XenoBitch · 01/10/2025 23:55

AngryBird6122 · 01/10/2025 23:53

Well @XenoBitch also brought up autism and said there is no surgery for that. I am pretty sure parents of autistic children (one of my dc is autistic fyi) would do a simple surgery to correct it. So, yeah, no points really

He was bullied for being enthusiastic about his special interest. Would that be something you would fix in your own kid?

AngryBird6122 · 01/10/2025 23:54

XenoBitch · 01/10/2025 23:54

Ok, so something that only affects 1-2% should be seen as ugly and something to be fixed? Like ginger hair?
And some reasons kids are bullied is not something that is fixed.

Again, teach your kids to be accepting of all difference even sticky out ears. They are not ugly or abnormal. Just not common, and that is fine.
Think about the message you are sending out to those kids that are ok with their ears. That they must get them fixed because they are ugly and most people have "good" ears.

ginger hair is not a deformity

XenoBitch · 01/10/2025 23:54

thelakeisle1 · 01/10/2025 23:48

Nope. Normal means standard, average or typical. Prominent ears from the least noticeable to the most only affect 1-2 % of the UK population. https: // patient.info/doctor/history-examination/prominent-ears - so, no, they are not normal.

But bullying actually is completely normal in that it is absolutely typical, has always happened and is very standard and expected.

What you mean is that ears in all their shapes and forms are acceptable and within social norms, which is perfectly true.

You also mean that bullying should not be accepted, which is also true.

But no, sticking out ears are not normal, they are atypical, they absolutely 100 percent do draw attention and will amost certainly mean the child gets teased and/or bullied.

Reality is just reality. There's nothing wrong in any way at all with accepting reality and making our decisions based on that.

Ok, so something that only affects 1-2% should be seen as ugly and something to be fixed? Like ginger hair?
And some reasons kids are bullied is not something that is fixed.

Again, teach your kids to be accepting of all difference even sticky out ears. They are not ugly or abnormal. Just not common, and that is fine.
Think about the message you are sending out to those kids that are ok with their ears. That they must get them fixed because they are ugly and most people have "good" ears.

AngryBird6122 · 01/10/2025 23:53

thelakeisle1 · 01/10/2025 23:50

Yep. Your job is to do the right thing for your child, not to pretend you can fix all the world's problems and force them to suffer while you try.

Well @XenoBitch also brought up autism and said there is no surgery for that. I am pretty sure parents of autistic children (one of my dc is autistic fyi) would do a simple surgery to correct it. So, yeah, no points really

Blondeshavemorefun · 01/10/2025 23:53

NHS will do if these apply. All 3 for A. So mainly the child wants it rather then parents

  • Criteria A (for children under 18) requires all of:
  1. Aged >5 and <18 years.
  2. The child is experiencing substantial psychological distress because of prominent ears, which surgery will resolve.
  3. The child (not just the parents) desires the surgery. Referrals should not be made if the child is indifferent or opposed.
    -
    • Criteria B is: if ear prominence interferes with wearing hearing aids in children under 18.

    private is between £2.5/3.5k

tiredangry · 01/10/2025 23:50

I'm generally very against cosmetic surgery - but I think I would do it. Kids (and some adults) can be so incredibly mean and to be on the receiving end of this can be extraordinarily damaging to confidence and mental health. I would solve the "problem" before it becomes one.

thelakeisle1 · 01/10/2025 23:50

AngryBird6122 · 01/10/2025 23:49

Ok and like I said, good luck with that! My child is not going to be the guinea pig while all of you try and teach your kids not to bully mine. Thanks but no thanks! She's got stuff to be getting on with, without her deformed ears (easily corrected) getting in the way

Yep. Your job is to do the right thing for your child, not to pretend you can fix all the world's problems and force them to suffer while you try.

thelakeisle1 · 01/10/2025 23:50

XenoBitch · 01/10/2025 23:47

You do not seem to see the harm in getting surgery to appease bullies.

Teach your kids to not bully their peers. It is simple as that/

Wave a magic wand, be with your child at all times throughout every single moment of their lives, make sure the magical kingdom you inhabit is bully free.

Or, stop being deliberately stupid.

You can manage the latter, but you absolutely definitively cannot manage the former.

AngryBird6122 · 01/10/2025 23:49

XenoBitch · 01/10/2025 23:47

You do not seem to see the harm in getting surgery to appease bullies.

Teach your kids to not bully their peers. It is simple as that/

Ok and like I said, good luck with that! My child is not going to be the guinea pig while all of you try and teach your kids not to bully mine. Thanks but no thanks! She's got stuff to be getting on with, without her deformed ears (easily corrected) getting in the way

thelakeisle1 · 01/10/2025 23:48

XenoBitch · 01/10/2025 23:25

They are normal. Ears in all their shapes and forms are normal.
Bullying is not normal, and surgery to avoid bullying should not be accepted as normal.

Switch 'sticky out ears' for something else that is not fixed by surgery. i bet you would be swift to suggest the bullies are in the wrong then.

Nope. Normal means standard, average or typical. Prominent ears from the least noticeable to the most only affect 1-2 % of the UK population. https: // patient.info/doctor/history-examination/prominent-ears - so, no, they are not normal.

But bullying actually is completely normal in that it is absolutely typical, has always happened and is very standard and expected.

What you mean is that ears in all their shapes and forms are acceptable and within social norms, which is perfectly true.

You also mean that bullying should not be accepted, which is also true.

But no, sticking out ears are not normal, they are atypical, they absolutely 100 percent do draw attention and will amost certainly mean the child gets teased and/or bullied.

Reality is just reality. There's nothing wrong in any way at all with accepting reality and making our decisions based on that.

XenoBitch · 01/10/2025 23:47

AngryBird6122 · 01/10/2025 23:46

Yes but that's not an easy fix!!! Whereas this is! I feel you are being deliberately obtuse here

You do not seem to see the harm in getting surgery to appease bullies.

Teach your kids to not bully their peers. It is simple as that/

Halloumiqueen · 01/10/2025 23:47

I had this done as a child and I’m very grateful to my parents

AngryBird6122 · 01/10/2025 23:46

XenoBitch · 01/10/2025 23:45

Hopefully because we teach our kids that their ears don't need fixing to appease bullies.

nah people just do it privately

AngryBird6122 · 01/10/2025 23:46

XenoBitch · 01/10/2025 23:42

And plenty of people with sticky out ears have no problems with glasses at all.
I don't have sticky out ears but have problems with glasses because of my face shape...and that would take a basic reshaping of my skull to fix.

Yes but that's not an easy fix!!! Whereas this is! I feel you are being deliberately obtuse here

XenoBitch · 01/10/2025 23:45

SALaw · 01/10/2025 23:44

In the 80s LOADS of kids got their ears pinned back. Now you rarely hear about it. I wonder why?

Hopefully because we teach our kids that their ears don't need fixing to appease bullies.

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