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Smear test - is it normal to find leaves and twigs?

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User748937744 · 01/10/2025 18:18

Ok, clickbait title - for a reason!

I am in my 40s and had my first smear test today. It was so fine and so quick and so painless and so straightforward and I wish I’d been brave enough to go for all the many years I’ve ignored the invitations!

Aibu to tell as many people as I can who might also never have gone to just do it?

I’ll happily go back next time I’m called.

I only went today because I’ve had some symptoms that were concerning.

It was so built up as something embarrassing and possibly painful in my head and it just wasn’t either.

Please, please go. You can always say you’re nervous and would like to be seen by someone really understanding.

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Lincolnlemons · 01/10/2025 23:05

A senior private GP did mine once and it was obvious she hadn’t done one in years. Kept telling me we were running out of time so I should relax to get it over with. Of course it clamped shut 😂
Next time I opted for an NHS nurse… super quick and completely painless.

youve987456 · 01/10/2025 23:05

GretaGip · 01/10/2025 18:25

it took four HCPs and 3 appointments to get mine done. And incredibly painful all three appointments were too.

so yeah, that’s why I prevaricate about it.

Shocking that not everyone has the same experience.
Hmm

My cervix likes to hide so I have had similar experiences. I got a referral to hospital last time as they have a bed with stirrups they can move up and down and it was so easy. Maybe ask for that next time if it is difficult.

MyrtleLion · 01/10/2025 23:04

I find it really painful, and was advised to ask for a small speculum and to take it slowly. I am furious that they insist on my gay DSD having one when she has never had penetrative sex with a penis.

Cherryicecreamx · 01/10/2025 23:03

I don't remember it being particularly painful but I've found it mentally quite hard. I've had past experiences that this can be triggering, I understand a previous poster saying it can open up PTSD. I feel vulnerable and exposed but I do it for my health.. unfortunately not so much for my mental health.

UnintentionalArcher · 01/10/2025 22:58

User748937744 · 01/10/2025 22:42

Nothing awful. It was uncomfortable but tbh at that stage of being hugely pregnant, I was generally a bit uncomfortable anyway! Ask them to be gentle with you and best of luck with your new baby soon xx

Thank you 🙏

UnintentionalArcher · 01/10/2025 22:58

Idontpostmuch · 01/10/2025 22:15

I don't think it's patronising. The OP has taken time to try to help others who would like to have their smears but are too scared. She was once like them and now just wants to reassure others. Entirely altruistic.

Agreed. The many responses with negative experiences to me just show how poorly women’s health is managed; yes, the OP has chosen a particular angle which has annoyed and upset some, but if women’s healthcare was more of a priority and women’s pain taken seriously, it would be possible to post something innocuous and well-intentioned without it garnering the scale and intensity of response seen here.

I feel like the main issue is what fact that so many of these stories exist, that so many women’s experiences have been so awful, tell us about women’s healthcare. Smear tests are one example but there are many others.

Lucinda7 · 01/10/2025 22:50

I haven't read the whole thread. I had regular smear tests since I was 21. I'm too old to need them now! My last one was post menopause and did hurt. The people at sexual health clinics are very good at doing the tests. IME.

Sammyspurs · 01/10/2025 22:48

User748937744 · 01/10/2025 22:41

Different reasons. It’s been 25+ years of not going! Two children in that time - before children it was much more about embarrassment and not thinking it was that important. After children it felt more important (as I got older) but I still put it off. Gear of the unknown was huge which is why I wanted to try to reassure anyone in my position that it might be worth a try. Tbh, as others have said, even if it’s painful it could still save your life. Worth noting that they didn’t just check for HPV but also visually checked my cervix - very much worth it for my peace of mind today.

I’m glad you went!!
I’ve had high grade HPV previously and had to have LLETZ treatment
had HPV again at smear last year but no abnormal cells found, waiting for my brush and sweep appointment to come through- good luck

Worralorra · 01/10/2025 22:48

User748937744 · 01/10/2025 18:44

Sorry for those who have had bad experiences.

I just wanted to try to encourage anyone who has never had a smear to go. It was just such a non event (for me). I’m sure there are people who endlessly put them off like I did and if just one of those people ends up going I’d be so happy.

I had a bad experience. I mentioned at the next one that I’d had a bad experience last time. The HC”P” carrying out the next one basically raped me, while telling me it wasn’t so bad.
She smirked, actually smirked, while telling me it wasn’t so bad, while employing the pressure for scraping coconut meat from a shell, to my cervix. I bled for a week afterwards.
I will never go for another one.

katepilar · 01/10/2025 22:47

mathanxiety · 01/10/2025 20:29

Post-m here and also.long term single - ask them to lube the speculum.

Do they not use lubricant automatically? If not, no wonder it is painfull for people. My dr always uses lots of lubricant.

Sammyspurs · 01/10/2025 22:46

MrsLizzieDarcy · 01/10/2025 19:59

I had a normal smear 6 weeks post birth of my last baby and then 3 years later when I went back, was referred to gynae and I was diagnosed with Cin 2 pre cancerous cells. Had most of my cervix removed, and thankfully it hadn't spread. I had to have 3 monthly, then 6 monthly then annual smears for quite a few years so I'm loving being back to the 3 yearly ones again. I've got a tilted uterus/cervix and it's not nice but I'm still here thanks to having them. I'd rather have 48 hours of discomfort after than cancer.

Sorry to hear that- can I ask why you had most your cervix removed for cin 2- did you have lettz?
I had an abnormal smear last year but no cell charges- waiting for my next brush and sweep smear, it’s always a worry though! Had high grade HPV in 2016 with lettz treatment

User748937744 · 01/10/2025 22:42

UnintentionalArcher · 01/10/2025 22:40

It is called a sweep, and I’m due to have one tomorrow. If you don’t mind me asking, how uncomfortable/painful did you find it?

Nothing awful. It was uncomfortable but tbh at that stage of being hugely pregnant, I was generally a bit uncomfortable anyway! Ask them to be gentle with you and best of luck with your new baby soon xx

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UnintentionalArcher · 01/10/2025 22:42

Skade · 01/10/2025 21:18

It’s not the speculum that’s the painful part for me though, I have no issue with that. It’s the scraping of the cervix with the brush that makes me double up. I have always described it as how I think men must feel if they’re kicked in the balls, a deep ache that remains for hours.

The scraping of the cervix is a very very weird sensation. For me, it’s not exactly painful but still very unpleasant

User748937744 · 01/10/2025 22:41

Sammyspurs · 01/10/2025 22:30

Can I ask? Why haven’t you had one before?! I’m not having a dig- and know it’s common, but this is something that could potentially save your life. Just interested!

Different reasons. It’s been 25+ years of not going! Two children in that time - before children it was much more about embarrassment and not thinking it was that important. After children it felt more important (as I got older) but I still put it off. Gear of the unknown was huge which is why I wanted to try to reassure anyone in my position that it might be worth a try. Tbh, as others have said, even if it’s painful it could still save your life. Worth noting that they didn’t just check for HPV but also visually checked my cervix - very much worth it for my peace of mind today.

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UnintentionalArcher · 01/10/2025 22:40

Farticus101 · 01/10/2025 20:59

Is it more or less painful then a sweep (or whatever that thing is called where they try and encourage the baby to come out)?

I had lots of sweeps- baby didn't budge- so could withstand the pain if it was similar.

I'm not sure if it is called a sweep or I made it up🤔

It is called a sweep, and I’m due to have one tomorrow. If you don’t mind me asking, how uncomfortable/painful did you find it?

User748937744 · 01/10/2025 22:38

Killerpinkflamingo · 01/10/2025 22:00

What a ridiculously patronising post.

what a ridiculously pointless post.

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Sammyspurs · 01/10/2025 22:35

OttersAreMySpiritAnimal · 01/10/2025 19:07

Thanks for the tip @cordeliabuffy I might try that if I ever go for another. Mine are painful and I'm about a year overdue for the latest one. I'm just not sure it's worth the pain now it's just a HPV check and not looking for abnormal cells anymore. I haven't tested positive for HPV any of the previous times so can't understand why they think it would change when I'm in a long term monogamous relationship.

Because it can lay dormant for years regardless if you’re in a long term monogamous relationship.

Sammyspurs · 01/10/2025 22:30

Can I ask? Why haven’t you had one before?! I’m not having a dig- and know it’s common, but this is something that could potentially save your life. Just interested!

katepilar · 01/10/2025 22:28

MrsJeanLuc · 01/10/2025 22:09

No. If it's done at the GP's it will just be on a couch. You are asked to put the soles of your feet together and let your knees fall apart. Not on a proper gynae chair

Thank you for explaing. That sounds even less practical than I had imagined /with feet apart/. I cant help thinking that the position they do it in may have to do with how easy it is to get in which in turn will affect how un/pleasant or un/painfull it is for a woman.

TheSpottedZebra · 01/10/2025 22:28

I find it amazing how even women are ridiculously paternalistic about having our 'smears', yet they'd never start posting about how alcohol, smoking, obesity come with health risks including a very real increase in cancer risk, and people are just silly to do/have them.

Me? Also very painful smears. Probably due to a violent rape. Yes, it was years ago so maybe I'm being silly by being bothered by it. But bothered I am, even by the letters inviting me. So I opted put and feel alot better.

Toofficeornot · 01/10/2025 22:24

I was so confused. But you reminded me I have to get mine done so job done. Thanks.

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 01/10/2025 22:24

I hate them and have had a couple of horrible experiences (the first one managed to scratch my cervix, another put me on a bed squashed against the wall so that I couldn't get into a position that opened up my cervix, was incredibly rough and clumsy, obviously inexperienced, and then when I said it was really uncomfortable just said "yeah, they're not exactly my favourite thing to do either", and yes I had told her about my previous experiences of smears and how anxious I was beforehand).

I have also had pain-free smears and would say that the confidence and experience of the person doing them is key. My advice to anyone anxious would be to go somewhere like a GUM clinic where they do smears and vaginal examinations all the time and feel confident and prepared to take their time with women who have had previous traumatic experiences.

I understand your good intentions, OP, but a lot of women don't go because they've had one and it was a difficult experience. I was told they were painless and I would have done much better if I had been warned that they can be uncomfortable and prepared myself for that.

AllTheChaos · 01/10/2025 22:24

mynameiscalypso · 01/10/2025 18:31

I had one a couple of weeks ago. It was incredibly painful (I nearly passed out), caused bleeding for over a week and triggered a PTSD relapse. And I was, as expected, HPV negative so they didn’t even bother testing the sample beyond that.

No PTSD but otherwise the same. I hate hate hate having them done

NeedWineNow · 01/10/2025 22:18

I'm 63 and mine have got progressively painful over the years. I had my last one done before Christmas and the nurse tried three times before she was successful. She said I wouldn't get called again as they only do automatic invites up to age 65, although I could request one. I was 62 when I had it done so would be due for another at 66. I said I may request one then and make that my last one.

I used to find that they were uncomfortable and agree with those who have said that, post menopause, smears have become far more painful and in some cases, agonising. This has certainly been my experience.

Theresabatinmykitchen · 01/10/2025 22:16

muddyford · 01/10/2025 21:16

I'm 63 and decided after the last attempt to have a test that it wasn't worth the trauma . More like sexual assault than a medical procedure. That was about seven years ago. It's basically the same method as it was 70 years ago. Sister is a couple of years younger and has pulled out too. We aren't offered even the minimal sedation that you'd have at the dentist. It's not uncomfortable post-menopause, it's absolute tearing agony. There ought to be proper research into why women in my cohort are stopping, after decades of trotting along to the surgery quite happily. But all we get is the utter patronising bilge of Don't Fear the Smear.

Agree, I used to find them a bit uncomfortable but now post menopause and never having giving birth and not being sexually active they are agony. I’ve just been summoned for smear, I am absolutely dreading it and keep putting it off but I have to push through because last time the doctor saw what she thought was a polyp which I had to have removed and tested and I’m worried it might have grown back, if it wasn’t for that growth I wouldn’t go for it and would just do the HPV test myself.