To be worried about my indefinite leave to remain. Should I get British citizenship?

Because she is rejecting being British whilst simultaneously wanting all the rights that go with British.

What could be more British ?

Because she is rejecting being British whilst simultaneously wanting all the rights that go with British.

it is her that is saying that for her there is a hierarchy of importance of citizenships/identities and she puts British second - whilst wanting all the rights of being British.

I have dual citizenship - I don’t think there is a hierarchy and i think both my citizenships are important. However, the OP agrees with Reform that there is a hierarchy. She can’t have her cake
and eat it too.

Even as a question it’s a little extreme. There will never be a case where most people in Britain don’t see themselves as such. And even if this extreme circumstance happened - unless they cause harm I don’t see why their feelings matter.

You wouldn't believe how English it is to know very little of your own countries history - and to be selective about that.

If you don't know much British history, you'll fit right in 😀

It was a question, not a statement.

In any case.
I've been practicing the test of Britishness (now there's a separate thread on the ridiculousness of the requirement to even take this test) and I'm passing most times. Failing most on ancient royal history.

A “majority”? Hyperbole much?

sure, as it's my opinion.

ungenerous to take the advantages of a a country and not become a citizen?

what does this even mean?!

It's absolutely ok to want to live in the UK but not want to be British, what an odd way to think.

Is it still odd if a majority (say they) think it ?

It's absolutely ok to want to live in the UK but not want to be British, what an odd way to think.
I choose to live here but I also don't want to be British, quite happy being something else. I pay (a great deal of) taxes, I can vote, I contribute to society in a number of ways, I have assimilated. None of this means I should be grateful to have the opportunity to become a citizen

Why do you just see it as “taking”? Why do you assume there was no “give”?

“Irrelevant”?

Whilst it’s nice to think that anyone who thought that is irrelevant, in reality I don’t agree. The reason why Reform are gaining so much traction is because there’s real concerns out there that Reform are exploiting.

It really isn’t my view as I genuinely don’t care what nationality people are as long as they contribute to the greater good of society, but I can see how it could come across as a little ungenerous to take all of the advantages of a country and still not to become a dual citizen as the person doesn’t count it as a “home”. Whether that’s the UK, US, Europe or anywhere else in the world.

I think that’s an emotional response whereas for many people obtaining legal resident status is purely pragmatic.

I don’t “hate” Australia but also don’t feel in anyway Australian. I got my passport for practical reasons. Unless they are causing active harm.

Besides at least they are leaving.

The kind of people that would feel this way about what OP said are the type that would never see OP as a Brit anyway. Not really (especially if not white.)

Why would it be seen as her “using” the country. I am sure the contributed in return.

Are you clinging to your ancestral home… or rejecting Britain as home? You can have both so I don’t see why you wouldn’t unless you don’t wish to stay in Britain forever. And if you do wish to stay forever why are you pushing Britain away?

I’m glad someone has said this. I can’t understand being born in a country and living your whole life in it and not wanting to have the citizenship of it. I am speaking as someone married to a naturalised British citizen and the mother of three dcs who have dual nationalities (two were born abroad), so obviously not a racist anti immigrant.
I was recently talking to a colleague of my dh’s, who moved here from the Middle East for work a couple of years ago. She said she couldn’t wait to apply for ILR. I said ‘So you must like living here’. She said ‘no I hate it, I just want the ILR’ and move back home. I think it’s this kind of attitude towards the ILR and even citizenship that is making people resentful and I know it’s not an uncommon attitude
as I know a people who immigrate here through my dh.

I find that quite sad actually. You want to live here but not be British is what you're saying basically :-(

I get that there is a heritage you want to celebrate but if Britain is your home and has been practically all your life how can you not want to be British?!

but it's not just the cost of a passport, it's the application fee for citizenship (£1735) plus cost of the test of Britishness (£50 x a few times as you need 80% to pass) Those older than 65 do not need to take this test.

DH has ILTR. We didn’t go for citizenship because we couldn’t afford it while we sorting everything out when we got married. Also, because due to some admin issues when renewing a visa when he was first here he was an illegal immigrant for a weekend.
We were advised that it didn’t matter as the authorities who were renewing the visa knew it was an error but might cause issues if it showed up if he decided to go for citizenship. So we didn’t bother. We’ve been married for 20 years and have 2 kids. I have no idea what we’ll do.

I'm also a dual national. When I was going through it all, I always saw ILR as a temporary/limbo status. It was years ago now, but it never occurred to stay on it for ever. I don't feel less connected to my birth heritage! Also- who even asks day to day?

Other than the cost of the passport, I have idea why anyone would stay on it? Maybe only IF you had to give up their original citizenship.

Reform’s proposal is very worrying. A relative came to England as a child in the 60s from a Commonwealth country. Part of the wave of migration that was encouraged due to a workforce shortage. They have ILR from childhood. Following the Windrush scandal they followed the procedures advised by the home office and were told they didn’t need citizenship. Their home country didn’t allow dual nationality for a long time. I think he could get citizenship if really needed but this would involve taking the test. I imagine this may be difficult for some elderly people who are long retired. If they apply it retrospectively it really will be cruel. Sadly many British people seem to have very little knowledge about our links to the commonwealth countries and the history of how people from these countries came to live here.

My wife has had ILR for about 10 years now. She hasn’t bothered with Citizenship - mainly for the emotional reasons listed and because she hates paperwork, despite my wanting her to get it - during the last Conservative government some of the rhetoric around deporting criminals got a bit worrying - not that she is a criminal, but something like an at fault car accident could have conceivably put her at minor risk if the home office needed to keep their stats up/ she got the wrong magistrate. It’s something we will sort out now, given Reform’s statements. At the very least they plan on rescinding permanent ILR and forcing anyone with it to apply for 5 year visas - which with the visa fee and other charges could be several thousand pounds every five years; in a worst case, they have talked about removing this option for people who are not working, so people with current ILR/ their new 5 year visas may find that the 5 year visa is not an option when they retire, so they’d lose any rights to remain at pension age, despite having worked for the majority of their time/life here.

Unfortunately I think it’s these types of situations that people will pick and run with. You’ve lived your whole life in the UK, presumably benefitted from it (else why didn’t your parents live in your country of heritage) but you don’t want to identify as British, even as a dual national.

Im not saying these are my views, but id imagine this type of thing will be like petrol to a flame. It makes people feel the country has been “used”.