Flag bearers, marchers- these are your (white) people…

Right ?!
If the cap fits….

The likelihood of finding anti-semetics within a pro Palestinian match and anti-white rhetoric within a BLM protest is also frighteningly high. Where else are we looking for bigotry?

You’ve just made my point for me.

I'm getting a bit sick of this ' Left wingers pushing people towards Reform' line, just because we call a racist, a racist.

If you went on that march , or you are shinning up lampposts put cheap flags up, or shouting obscenities outside hotels, or painting roundabouts..guess what..you are either monumentally gullible and dense, or a racist..but probably both ( actually there's small third category..a grifter making money out of it).

If someone is stupid enough to vote for Reform and believe the absolute fascist garbage that comes out of Farage's mouth, simply because someone has pointed out what they are, and by association what you would be if you voted for this one issue bunch of millionaire businessmen, then you deserve no respect whatsoever.

Completely disagree. TR (who I think is an agitator and criminal) posted in advance urging everyone to march peacefully, not to break the law - his posts were so numerous and strongly worded he was virtually begging them. And given they made 23 arrests out of 100,000 people, that’s what, 1 arrest in every 4,000 people?

You’re acting like there’s a degree of separation between the ‘real’ Palestine protestors and the Neo Nazis, whereas the Unite the Kingdom marchers are all just a homogenous Neo Nazi blob. You need to apply standards equally or not at all.

Palestine marches have been utterly hideous. Why is it only true Neo Nazism when it’s Brits marching regarding immigration?

https://news.sky.com/story/police-actively-looking-for-individuals-over-antisemitic-signs-at-pro-palestinian-march-13005665

I am so sick of mumsnet allowing posters to moan with their own brand of "nice" acceptable rascism. Bite back and you are deleted. OP you are responsible for stirring up hatred ...call me what you like I give no fucks but bear in mind us racists see you and what you are trying to stir up and dressed up is equally unsavory..vomit inducing indeed.

I was there marching on the Anti Racist march and I can tell you what started off as calm march turned into something petrifying when we were surrounded on 3 sides by a baying crowd of right wing racists/ fascists.
The police had to kettle us to keep the crowd away. We were stuck for 4 hours with no where to go. We were mostly women and old people. I heard the racist chants thrown at us and they were vile.
So those who supported the TR march and have said it was not racist clearly didn't see the thousands that were there to cause trouble.
I know of so many people; family, friends and colleagues who were too scared to leave home that day as they were scared they would be targeted for the colour of their skin. This is what Tommy and his supporters have done to us, they don't differentiate between legal or illegal, they just want anyone who is not white out of the country.
Its sickening and yes those who marched with are Racist and they are Fascist, there are no other words for them.

At last someone with some intelligence.

Is everyone who attended a Palestine march on board with those who displayed Nazi imagery and antisemitic placards?

Tommy Robinson is unquestionably racist but loads of the 'flag wavers' couldn't give a toss about him, don't support many of his ideas and I dare say might not have even heard of the wanker.

Reform, including Farage, are distancing themselves from him and his bovver boys too and, again I dare say, willingly do so not because of any PR.

For the many of you who don't actually watch the news, just various SM streams and MS media interpretations, Zia Yusef has brown skin. He was the bloke standing on the podium next to Farage when Reform's immigration policy was launched a few days ago.

They also said a bunch of stuff about penalising employers who prefer to recruit an immigrant rather than play their part in skilling up the existing UK workforce.

Tommy Robinson was a member of the BNP, a party that endorsed Nazi views, who belive white people are biologically superior. He founded the EDL, again a racist party that called for violence against Muslims, and the removal of all Muslim men from the UK. He led violent protest against Mosques in his name, he described Muslim babies as "ticking time bombs". He's an open racist.
I could go on and on and on.

When you see the comments that those "patriots" leave on news stories like the two women or the child that drowned in the channel it's obvious that we have a lot of racists among us, it's one thing being concerned about immigration levels, it's something else to rejoice in a death, although most of them don't even understand that there are different kinds of immigrants never mind how the process works, for what it's worth I don't actually think Farage is racist, he's a complete narcissist, we're all beneath him in his eyes, Robinson on the other hand is racist scum, they are both below contempt

And that goes for racists of all colours.

There is definitely a growing undercurrent of hate and anyone who looks or sounds different can be on the receiving end. I have shared this anecdote before but I do find it revealing: I was on my mobile wrapping up a conversation with a client in a language I've spent years learning and am proud to say I master at a very good level. Bus arrives and I was literally saying something to the effect of 'nice talking to you, let's catch up soon' when I sat down next to a lady in late middle age and ended the call. She jumps up looking all disgusted and says 'I can't sit next to THAT' and gestures for me to let her pass. Which I did (utterly dumbfounded though I have to admit). It can't have been my appearance as I was dressed professionally, so it can only have been that a few words in a different language did the trick. Fucking pathetic.

They’re human.
No human is vermin. Dehumanising people sends them to extremes. As we are seeing play out in front of our very eyes.

And what colour is Zia Yusef's skin?

I can only go on my own experiences

Yeah I'd love to know what all these marchers have done before now to voice their concerns. What did they all try that was apparently ignored before deciding to align themselves with a violent racist criminal? I'm just not getting what we're all supposed to have been listening to all this time.

Tell me how the protest was racist? Tell me how Tommy Robinson is racist?

Listening to what exactly though? Vaguely talking about 'concerns' doesn't mean anything. Many people are concerned about what is going on in this country and the rest of the world - but the march wasn't just about 'concerns'. That march was about stoking up divisions, pouring oil on fire. If people want a free pass to revert to disgusting language and casual widespread discrimination, they should own up to it and not hide it behind a thin veneer of respectability.

Oh my goodness op I'm so sorry and my heart breaks for your son to be subjected to racism already. I had only one serious (overt) incident of racism as a child and it left quite a mark. No child should experience that no matter how much someone believes that their concerns about immigration are legitimate.

I'm originally from India and I don't want my kids to experience racism. I will never accept that there are legitimate reasons for people to treat my children as less than others because of the colour of their skin. If you support racists you are supporting the normalisation of racism. You are empowering people to be racist. You are encouraging people to be racist to me and my kids. It's not the left. It's not the guardian or the BBC, Gordon Brown or Jeremy corbyn.

It is you.

Whether you yourself think you are racist or not if you go on a March that is organised, promoted and attended by racists then you are directly supporting racism, increasing racism and you are directly responsible for any racism that people of other races experience. If you are not racist then don't support racism. There is just no excuse.