To think putting vat on private healthcare when many people use it because the NHS won't treat them is monstrously cruel

Yes and it will see even more value if these students paid VAT.

I do but I'm using your excuses for the education tax and extrapolating it to university.
How is it acceptable to tax the education of children + SEND but not tax the education of adults??

I really value education but you can't have it both ways! It's precisely because I value all education that I oppose the taxation of any of it.

You are the one supporting the removal of the world premise that education is a merit good, no matter how pr where it is delivered. That's the reason why there was previously no education tax.

You don't on proper medical treatments. Cosmetic treatments yes.

Speak for yourself of course people go to university for an education that offers a depth of understanding and critical thinking that cannot be replicated easily outside of those institutions. You may see no value in an educated society but the economy doesn't.

One less tax for you to pay then. Winning.

Then you'd be one of the winners! Think of it as getting a benefit for not having pets.

What has it got to do with Labour OP? VAT has been paid on all private treatment for decades.

The only reason that Labour aren’t doing this currently is because it will add pressure on the NHS. Private healthcare is eyewateringly expensive, this would push people to stop it. Many employers offer it too and it would be another increase if 20% for them on top of the NI increase. I have no doubt that they would do it if they could. Additionally the NHS has/is using private healthcare to get waiting lists down so they will be also increasing their costs here.

Healthcare is very different to private school fees (which I didn’t agree to BTW) because it doesn’t directly affect and disrupt our children.

I have no doubt they would do this if they could.

Exactly! My DD is severely dyslexic and in the words of a state school teacher would fall through the gaps in a class of 34 never to reach her potential. She is in an independent school with excellent SEND provision and is able to access education. We are making huge sacrifices to pay for this to try and set her up for the future. How anyone can think that should be taxed is beyond me.

I am struggling to get past this. THIS is exactly why private education should be taxed. It produces entitled elites who think they should and indeed do get access to most of the powerful jobs in this country. Politicians, judges, barristers, journalists are all overwhelmingly privately educated. They dominate the professions not because they are good at what they do but because a private education buys connections and networks that will advance and protect them all their lives. Wake up!!

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I don't have a dog, I prefer cats but I'm allergic to all of these animals so I don't have any.

And we can have them - no ones saying ban them. They'll just have to pay the VAT.

But they don't need to go to university to learn how to be "creative people whose imaginative skills can help solve problems or design solutions".

Sorry I just don't buy your weak argument. University IS optional for most people. Therefore it's a luxury and should be taxed. Doctors etc would be exempt.

We already have 100s of 1000s of graduates who can't get jobs and are querying why they went. Taxing university would raise ££ as well as reducing the amount of graduates to a more sustainable amount for the job market.

I have full confidence in…

Really, we've never had more humanity and art students and they have driven us all into double speak madness and self flagellating misery. 85% tax, I think.

Of course you can have your dog, you just need to pay the tax due.

MH for example is now a divided by wealth diagnosis

The waits are so long a child will be an adult by the time they are diagnosed so goodbye ehcp and support in school

My dd is autistic and all her diagnosis have had to be private. She may not be with us if we hadn't done this.

We are prob 10k down over the last 3 years if you add her therapy. But lucky we can afford this for her.
Many relatives pay for grandkids etc

Totally against vat on Ed or HC

The only thing I may back is means tested dental care but free for all kids in education or under 19 and oaps and pregnancy.

We can't tax cats. I have one. Don't forgot we only spend other peoples money.

Democracies need humanity students and philosophy students and Arts students, we need people that can understand the ethics of AI for example and can write legislation and people who actually know where places are and they're significance for geo political reasons. We also need creative people whose imaginative skills can help solve problems or design solutions.

After Covid I couldn't see a GP,I had a couple of telephone appointments with the nurse, she obviously couldn't see the issue. Fast forward over a year,saw a GP who looked panicked,was put on the 2 week cancer pathway, misdiagnosed by a gynae consultant and went private. I have a few premium bonds which are my savings, after the cash ISA came to term, and a tiny NHS pension, can't get private health insurance at my age and with all my health issues..

Agreed.
Also cats, cats should be taxed double. They kill wild life etc.

I think it is much fairer to tax dogs which serve no real social purpose than it is to tax private education that will be raising our next generation of leaders.

Yeah. They're slippy fuckers.

Pretending that it was going to bring a bounty of tax and then lying it would pay for...nurses/teachers/houses/ until it got whittled down to crappy breakfast clubs that are so shit the kids don't like them and school can't afford to put them on properly.