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Digital ID needs to be resisted, surely?

270 replies

Honish · 29/09/2025 20:37

There are just under 1 million illegal immigrants believed to be in Britain. The authories know who most of them are, and they are still here. Identifying them has never been the problem. We don't deport them, knowing who they are does not change this. This is one of the most breathtaking, blatant lies, made to us by our PM.

And the provider company for the digital ID, the person set make ever so many more millions than he already has, Tony Blairs son. How are people OK with this?

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TheWordWomanIsTaken · 30/09/2025 12:35

I don't, in principle, object to an identity CARD - I already hold one from another country.

I object to being told it is to stop illegal working and the 'draw' to this country that being able to work illegally allows. Share codes exist which provide
photographic evidence and status of the person looking for work.

I object to Lisa Nandy doing the rounds last week telling us it was only going to be used for employment purposes and then in her next breath telling us it would make it easier to access government services. Which is it?

I object mainly to this government lying through its teeth and thinking I am a fool.

EasternStandard · 30/09/2025 12:25

smallglassbottle · 30/09/2025 12:20

They'll go ahead anyway. This isn't coming from the UK government, but higher up.

Don’t let the piss takers get to you btw. It’s standard stuff.

MrsSkylerWhite · 30/09/2025 12:24

Wolmando · 29/09/2025 21:36

I shall resist, I don't need to work so won't need one anyway

So, not actually resisting, then 😁

I don’t work either. Happy to have one.

Parker231 · 30/09/2025 12:23

smallglassbottle · 30/09/2025 12:19

Glad it's amusing for you. Not all of us have grown up in freedom so we're not so amused by the prospect of our civil liberties and freedoms being removed.

What is being removed?

TY78910 · 30/09/2025 12:22

smallglassbottle · 30/09/2025 12:20

They'll go ahead anyway. This isn't coming from the UK government, but higher up.

Higher up!!! The aliens?

Parker231 · 30/09/2025 12:22

smallglassbottle · 30/09/2025 12:20

They'll go ahead anyway. This isn't coming from the UK government, but higher up.

Higher up where?

Parker231 · 30/09/2025 12:21

Inthedark81 · 29/09/2025 21:04

Once everything is linked to digital ID (work. Oassport, driving license etc) and believe me, it will be, there is nothing they can't infiltrate with it. Starmer even said himself it will help climate change and yet people still don't believe it. They'll be able to stop us travelling, spending money, driving, working. It is extremely concerning

I’ve had an ID card most of my life - nothing negative has happened - no one has stopped me travelling, spending my money, driving or working.

Your passport and drivers license are digital. Your bank account is online and your employment information and tax payments are held online and assessed digitally - what do you think will change?

smallglassbottle · 30/09/2025 12:20

EasternStandard · 30/09/2025 12:19

Yeh you said. Labour aren’t doing too well so maybe it’ll backfire and they’ll be out anyway. With their dodgy ID plans.

They'll go ahead anyway. This isn't coming from the UK government, but higher up.

EasternStandard · 30/09/2025 12:19

gamerchick · 30/09/2025 12:18

I'm not arsed tbh. Sounds like a good idea to me. Catching up with the rest of the world.

I am finding all of the frothing hilarious though Grin

Yeh you said. Labour aren’t doing too well so maybe it’ll backfire and they’ll be out anyway. With their dodgy ID plans.

smallglassbottle · 30/09/2025 12:19

gamerchick · 30/09/2025 12:18

I'm not arsed tbh. Sounds like a good idea to me. Catching up with the rest of the world.

I am finding all of the frothing hilarious though Grin

Glad it's amusing for you. Not all of us have grown up in freedom so we're not so amused by the prospect of our civil liberties and freedoms being removed.

gamerchick · 30/09/2025 12:18

I'm not arsed tbh. Sounds like a good idea to me. Catching up with the rest of the world.

I am finding all of the frothing hilarious though Grin

EasternStandard · 30/09/2025 12:15

smallglassbottle · 30/09/2025 12:12

The government need people to work more, not less and the oil crisis has been replaced with climate change crisis and net zero.

People haven’t noticed increased unrest pretty much everywhere, and then see what happens as climate change ramps up. In the next decade AI and services will pretty much become ‘the bedrock of the state’ as tweeted. They’re not joking.

smallglassbottle · 30/09/2025 12:15

The eradication of cash and introduction of a digital currency would help to stop illegal working. If the government know exactly where all our money is originating from and going to, then it'll be hard to pay someone without leaving a trail.

smallglassbottle · 30/09/2025 12:12

CinnamonCinnabar · 30/09/2025 12:08

If the government wanted to reduce individual's carbon footprint they could use your passport to ration flights. Much more effective. Bonkers to think they will start rationing fuel outside of a massive fuel crisis - and that wouldn't be prevented by having no ID, look at the 1970s 3 day week.

I don't see any problem with ID cards personally - and I think it would reduce illegal working. It won't completely prevent it but would help.

The government need people to work more, not less and the oil crisis has been replaced with climate change crisis and net zero.

smallglassbottle · 30/09/2025 12:09

scalt · 30/09/2025 12:02

Remember another shelved and extremely unpopular idea was “pay per mile”: all cars would be tracked by GPS, and taxed according to mileage. Again, if this was in place in 2020, the government would almost certainly have used it to catch people breaking lockdown. This is why we don’t want these things in place at all.

This is in the background, it'll be used as soon as the infrastructure is in place. All under the excuse of carbon reduction.

CinnamonCinnabar · 30/09/2025 12:08

smallglassbottle · 30/09/2025 11:36

Denial of goods and services unless you meet certain criteria. Rationing of things such as car fuel in order to reduce an individual's carbon output. Just two quick examples.

If the government wanted to reduce individual's carbon footprint they could use your passport to ration flights. Much more effective. Bonkers to think they will start rationing fuel outside of a massive fuel crisis - and that wouldn't be prevented by having no ID, look at the 1970s 3 day week.

I don't see any problem with ID cards personally - and I think it would reduce illegal working. It won't completely prevent it but would help.

EasternStandard · 30/09/2025 12:06

TY78910 · 30/09/2025 11:58

If it saves me from digging through a mountain of paperwork every time I need to register for a service, because all I have to do is log in to an app and generate a little code, I’m happy to do so. I’m all for not having a filing cabinet of paperwork I need to rummage through.

I’d be fine if you could use a paperwork app and those who don’t want or need that could make that choice.

smallglassbottle · 30/09/2025 12:04

TY78910 · 30/09/2025 11:59

because a physical ID can be forged.

And all employers employ people legitimately?

Boxfuls · 30/09/2025 12:03

What exactly is the involvement of Tony Blair's son?

I don't love the idea of ID and I'm surprised at a Labour government going with it, but I'd expect it to be popular with the groups it's designed to appease. I don't like that either, but I like it more than the idea of a Reform government.

scalt · 30/09/2025 12:02

Remember another shelved and extremely unpopular idea was “pay per mile”: all cars would be tracked by GPS, and taxed according to mileage. Again, if this was in place in 2020, the government would almost certainly have used it to catch people breaking lockdown. This is why we don’t want these things in place at all.

smallglassbottle · 30/09/2025 12:02

Buxusmortus · 30/09/2025 11:54

What evidence have you got that any of this type of thing will occur? Why do you think that simply having digital ID is going to mean that this country suddenly becomes like North Korea?
Or do you just like whipping yourself up into an unnecessary frenzy imagining all sorts of fantastical scenarios?

Suit yourself and make use of hyperbole whilst you still can. AI and the massive data centres currently being built in the UK will soon deal with the massive amounts of information incoming from the population. Not to mention the algorithms required for such systems to be put in place.

TY78910 · 30/09/2025 11:59

smallglassbottle · 30/09/2025 11:58

Because it's not just going to be an identification card. Why would they bring in an id card to prevent illegal working if employers are already supposed to check id now?

because a physical ID can be forged.

smallglassbottle · 30/09/2025 11:58

TY78910 · 30/09/2025 11:53

What does this have to do with digital ID cards? A law was passed to allow for this - since 1997 may I add according to this article. The UK gov could do the same and all it needs is looking at someone’s CMS account or a court ruling which they already have access to in order to enforce this. Absolutely nothing to do with a digital ID card!

Also are we really comparing the US and Vietnamese legal system to the UK? It’s like a parallel universe.

Because it's not just going to be an identification card. Why would they bring in an id card to prevent illegal working if employers are already supposed to check id now?

TY78910 · 30/09/2025 11:58

EasternStandard · 30/09/2025 11:55

@TY78910why do you want it?

If it saves me from digging through a mountain of paperwork every time I need to register for a service, because all I have to do is log in to an app and generate a little code, I’m happy to do so. I’m all for not having a filing cabinet of paperwork I need to rummage through.

Verv · 30/09/2025 11:57

Im fine with it if it closes any loopholes which can currently be exploited.
Ive got a drivers licence, passport, bank cards, blah de blah so whats the difference?

I have no concerns about the gubment tracking me, because quite honestly, we all carry a device around with us that tracks our every move, our every keystroke and conversation, knows our buying habits our browsing habits our likes, dislikes and location, and we carry that WILLINGLY.
If the gubment has nowt better to do than spy on a middle aged woman then best of luck to them.