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Been made to feel like a outcast at work :(

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Thelily · 29/09/2025 14:30

I started a new job on an NHS ward about 2 months ago. I haven’t had any other trouble settling in roles, but I am auADHD so I suppose I could potentially be seen as a bit shy?

The ward atmosphere is unlike any other ward I’ve been on. I will walk in at the start of my shift and say hi/good morning etc, and no one will reply. Whenever I ask a question to any of the staff they act like it’s a big inconvenience and will roll their eyes. When I walk on the ward, they will stare at me (after I say hello) until I walk down the whole corridor. I feel like I’m not liked, which is fine, but it’s undermining my confidence.

I’ve still got friends from another ward I worked on, so I meet them for lunch (when I get one) but I’m not sure if this is just compounding me feeling isolated with the current team I work with?

A few people do speak to me during the shift, but I feel very isolated and lonely. My manager is only in 2 days a week, and on days they’re not in, I sit largely on my own with a few different appointments with patients across the day.

My manager has said she thinks I’m doing well but “don’t be scared to share your opinions of your patients in the team meetings, you are quite reserved about doing so”. I am reserved here because I know whatever I say will get eye rolls.

Is this normal ward working? I don’t expect best friends, but I am feeling so disheartened and actually dread going into work

OP posts:
PandyMoanyMum · 29/09/2025 17:24

Ugh. It’s not like this everywhere in the NHS but there are pockets of it here and there. You could watch some videos of Jefferson Fisher on YouTube who has some good techniques to deal with this stuff. But look for a move, the job doesn’t sound worth the aggro.

Taviton · 29/09/2025 17:20

What's your role? It's a sadly relatively common experience for rotating resident doctors. Particularly for female and/or IMG resident doctors. I don't have much advice but I also had a similar experience on one ward I worked on, as have a lot of my colleagues. I'd say continue to be friendly, speak up when needed, focus on doing your job well, and if you aren't someone who will rotate out of this job, find an exit plan.

Everyonceinawhile · 29/09/2025 17:20

HaveItOffTilICough · 29/09/2025 16:27

My manager has said she thinks I’m doing well but “don’t be scared to share your opinions of your patients in the team meetings, you are quite reserved about doing so”. I am reserved here because I know whatever I say will get eye rolls.

Is there an opportunity to find a sort of freedom in this? If you know there will be eye rolls whatever you say, you have nothing to lose from saying what you like. You don’t have to worry about trying to say the right thing, because there isn’t one. So speak up and show the manager you’ve taken that feedback on board, and don’t worry about how your colleagues react, because they seem to have made up their minds anyway.

Also when she speaks, make sure she doesn’t look at the bully’s to see their reaction, or else she could also be brave and loudly ask what the eye rolling is about and say in front of everyone that it is extremely passive aggressive behaviour…..I bet that would put a stop to their nasty bitchy nonsense ……hideous bitchy little creatures!

Igmum · 29/09/2025 17:16

They sound awful Lily. I’d be applying for other jobs.

WhichBigToe · 29/09/2025 17:07

I had a very similar experience on an NHS ward. I stuck it out for a year and then left. It was a culture thing and I later found out that ward had a reputation for it. Their loss - 3 years later and my (difficult to fill) post is still vacant.

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 29/09/2025 16:32

Sounds like you've gone into a clique. Get out, its no way to live your work life.

HaveItOffTilICough · 29/09/2025 16:27

My manager has said she thinks I’m doing well but “don’t be scared to share your opinions of your patients in the team meetings, you are quite reserved about doing so”. I am reserved here because I know whatever I say will get eye rolls.

Is there an opportunity to find a sort of freedom in this? If you know there will be eye rolls whatever you say, you have nothing to lose from saying what you like. You don’t have to worry about trying to say the right thing, because there isn’t one. So speak up and show the manager you’ve taken that feedback on board, and don’t worry about how your colleagues react, because they seem to have made up their minds anyway.

Everyonceinawhile · 29/09/2025 16:27

InveterateWineDrinker · 29/09/2025 16:18

OP should be offered an exit interview when she quits, and can take the opportunity to spell it out. The idea is that once management realise they're struggling to hold on to staff not because other places are a better draw, but because they're pushing them away, then it might get taken seriously.

As PP said, OP is not on a crusade; her first duty is to herself.

She needs to learn to deal with situations like this as she will come across them again and again and she can’t keep running away…..as a lot of people up thread have mentioned, bitchy nurses like this exist on every ward so they will probably be at the next place aswell…..makes no sense to run away from it, it would be better to at least try and deal with it 🤷‍♀️,…….bully’s and bitches are usually not that bright so just ignore them ( to start with) and focus on your job

InveterateWineDrinker · 29/09/2025 16:24

sugarapplelane · 29/09/2025 16:02

If you’re in Management then what is being actively done to change this dynamic and to stop these so called NHS workers “seeing them off”?
It sounds to me like these bullies get away with it as Management turn a blind eye.

I tried to fire a bitchy saboteur (public health, rather than ward nursing) once when working as an interim at Associate Director level, and she turned out to be unsackable. I didn't seek an extension to my contract shortly afterwards and the first thing the HR director asked me was "is it something we've done?". In my own exit interview the CEO told me I'd tried too hard.

Not so much blind eye as determination not to get things done.

InveterateWineDrinker · 29/09/2025 16:18

Everyonceinawhile · 29/09/2025 15:32

But what’s the point in going elsewhere as it seems these bitches are on all NHS wards….she needs to stay and weather it out

OP should be offered an exit interview when she quits, and can take the opportunity to spell it out. The idea is that once management realise they're struggling to hold on to staff not because other places are a better draw, but because they're pushing them away, then it might get taken seriously.

As PP said, OP is not on a crusade; her first duty is to herself.

Yabayabadoo · 29/09/2025 16:15

Awful behavior everyone should make you feel welcome, excluding is a form of bullying, needs taking higher up if needed

CrispsPlease · 29/09/2025 16:11

I feel for you. This isn't a you problem. But unfortunately you can't change others. Your cheery good mornings and smiles unfortunately probably make you like nice aka a people pleaser aka vulnerable aka ripe for 'bullying ' (it's a cruel world we live in sometimes).

I would continue saying good morning, if no replies you could say "morning " a bit too loud whilst looking at them directly. It'll force them to probably mumble "morning" back. Make eye contact with people. Hold your head up when you walk. Avoid saying 'sorry' too often or being too eager with 'thankyou so much' etc. they need to earn your respect as much as you need to earn theirs. Stop being so nice and start being more neutral and assertive. Read some books and watch some you tubes on being assertive. I find the nicest, smiliest, kindest people are often the most taken as advantage of. Just remember though : this is all about them. Happy people don't bully others.

If two or three weeks of being more assertive don't work , you need to escalate it to your manager and make it very clear you're being bullied and will take it to HR if needs be. You could confront them directly, but you'll need to reek of confidence in order to do it.

sugarapplelane · 29/09/2025 16:02

InveterateWineDrinker · 29/09/2025 14:50

My NHS experience is in management rather than on wards, but some places are just like you've described. I'm sorry to say that I have met several NHS staff who actively enjoying 'seeing them off' when someone dares to join their department.

Look elsewhere.

If you’re in Management then what is being actively done to change this dynamic and to stop these so called NHS workers “seeing them off”?
It sounds to me like these bullies get away with it as Management turn a blind eye.

Everyonceinawhile · 29/09/2025 15:52

Thelily · 29/09/2025 15:42

There’s just a major undercurrent all the time. My manager isn’t exactly approachable, and when I mentioned I’m finding it hard to fit in, she has said I need to speak up more.

I just feel deflated. I’m not a shy person, but I feel so awkward at work. It’s all the time now.

ive had very supervision, I feel like I was just thrown in and never checked on.

You really need to totally ignore them and focus on your job, they will get bored of doing it when they see that it had no effect on you.

It seems to be passive aggressive behaviour, keep a record of it

HeartbrokenCatMum · 29/09/2025 15:47

Has anything happened to cause it OP? Or anything in previous wards?

TheatricalLife · 29/09/2025 15:46

Thelily · 29/09/2025 15:42

There’s just a major undercurrent all the time. My manager isn’t exactly approachable, and when I mentioned I’m finding it hard to fit in, she has said I need to speak up more.

I just feel deflated. I’m not a shy person, but I feel so awkward at work. It’s all the time now.

ive had very supervision, I feel like I was just thrown in and never checked on.

Find something else. Sounds crap all round. I'd put money on them having terrible staff retention levels -make sure you mention why you've left in your exit interview.

Thelily · 29/09/2025 15:42

There’s just a major undercurrent all the time. My manager isn’t exactly approachable, and when I mentioned I’m finding it hard to fit in, she has said I need to speak up more.

I just feel deflated. I’m not a shy person, but I feel so awkward at work. It’s all the time now.

ive had very supervision, I feel like I was just thrown in and never checked on.

OP posts:
Everyonceinawhile · 29/09/2025 15:36

TheatricalLife · 29/09/2025 15:31

Who cares? OP is there to do a job, not win a crusade. It's not her job to deal with bullies. I don't think not putting up with it and moving on is any kind of "win" for a bully. It shows more power to say fuck this and get something better than meekly put up with people treating you like shit.

Because after reading this thread they seem to be on all wards so the next place is likely to have the same type of bitches….she needs to stay and handle it, these women are just bitches and bitches are usually not that bright….just ignore them and make a record of everything, talk to your manager as well

Everyonceinawhile · 29/09/2025 15:32

InveterateWineDrinker · 29/09/2025 14:50

My NHS experience is in management rather than on wards, but some places are just like you've described. I'm sorry to say that I have met several NHS staff who actively enjoying 'seeing them off' when someone dares to join their department.

Look elsewhere.

But what’s the point in going elsewhere as it seems these bitches are on all NHS wards….she needs to stay and weather it out

TheatricalLife · 29/09/2025 15:31

Everyonceinawhile · 29/09/2025 15:27

Then the bully’s win

Who cares? OP is there to do a job, not win a crusade. It's not her job to deal with bullies. I don't think not putting up with it and moving on is any kind of "win" for a bully. It shows more power to say fuck this and get something better than meekly put up with people treating you like shit.

Everyonceinawhile · 29/09/2025 15:29

robinsinthespring · 29/09/2025 15:25

I'm sorry you're having this experience. It happened to me too on an NHS ward.
There were one or two nice people but mostly the rest ignored me, shut me out and belittled me. On the morning after a night shift I said good morning to a senior nurse as she arrived for her shift she just grunted at me. That was the moment I decided to leave. I lasted three months there.

I have heard that some nurses can be right pigs of women, I have also experienced it in hospital on a couple of occasions

Everyonceinawhile · 29/09/2025 15:27

TheatricalLife · 29/09/2025 14:45

It's not normal, no.
Personally, I'd start looking for something else. Life is too short to be miserable at work. You spend so much time there, it should at the least be tolerable.

Then the bully’s win

robinsinthespring · 29/09/2025 15:25

I'm sorry you're having this experience. It happened to me too on an NHS ward.
There were one or two nice people but mostly the rest ignored me, shut me out and belittled me. On the morning after a night shift I said good morning to a senior nurse as she arrived for her shift she just grunted at me. That was the moment I decided to leave. I lasted three months there.

Everyonceinawhile · 29/09/2025 15:25

Thelily · 29/09/2025 14:30

I started a new job on an NHS ward about 2 months ago. I haven’t had any other trouble settling in roles, but I am auADHD so I suppose I could potentially be seen as a bit shy?

The ward atmosphere is unlike any other ward I’ve been on. I will walk in at the start of my shift and say hi/good morning etc, and no one will reply. Whenever I ask a question to any of the staff they act like it’s a big inconvenience and will roll their eyes. When I walk on the ward, they will stare at me (after I say hello) until I walk down the whole corridor. I feel like I’m not liked, which is fine, but it’s undermining my confidence.

I’ve still got friends from another ward I worked on, so I meet them for lunch (when I get one) but I’m not sure if this is just compounding me feeling isolated with the current team I work with?

A few people do speak to me during the shift, but I feel very isolated and lonely. My manager is only in 2 days a week, and on days they’re not in, I sit largely on my own with a few different appointments with patients across the day.

My manager has said she thinks I’m doing well but “don’t be scared to share your opinions of your patients in the team meetings, you are quite reserved about doing so”. I am reserved here because I know whatever I say will get eye rolls.

Is this normal ward working? I don’t expect best friends, but I am feeling so disheartened and actually dread going into work

They are bully’s and deliberately trying to intimidate you and make you uncomfortable…..ignore the bully’s back an only focus on the nice ones……do not say hello to them in the corridor and do not say hello to them in the morning as this is just giving them an opportunity to ignore you…..do not give the bully’s an opportunity….keep a record of what they are doing, dates and times

Also as your manager has said, speak up in meetings and give your opinion

Frogs88 · 29/09/2025 15:23

I think some wards are just like that. I’ve experienced it a couple of times - also AuDHD so maybe I wasn’t getting the social interactions exactly right, but everyone I know that has had numerous student placements/worked on a lot of different wards has said they’ve encountered the same. I would just focus on doing your job and forget about trying to make friends - just say hi/basic politeness etc. It might settle after a while once they realise you’ve been there a while, but keep looking for a different job.